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Alctel posted:* citation needed Well what we've seen is that he's had his force basically run protection for a bunch of fascists while they terrorize several neighborhoods for 5 days straight. What you heard about him counts for nothing.
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Feb 2, 2022 16:31
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jettisonedstuff posted:Well what we've seen is that he's had his force basically run protection for a bunch of fascists while they terrorize several neighborhoods for 5 days straight. What you heard about him counts for nothing. Yes. We have a word for someone who doesn't believe in Nazism in their heart of hearts, but supports and defends Nazis anyway. That word is "Nazi."
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Feb 2, 2022 16:34
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Alctel posted:* citation needed A million times 0 is still 0.
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Feb 2, 2022 16:34
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cops and klan go hand in hand
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Feb 2, 2022 16:35
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In non-truck news, the hospital here is loving hosed Last week, somebody died in the emergency room waiting for care while there was a 14 hour wait. I've waited 4 hours there with chest pains while there was a 1 hour wait listed. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/red-deer-emergency-room-wait-times-increase-1.6326871 Now they're diverting all but "life and limb" emergency surgeries to Edmonton or Calgary. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/red-deer-hospital-diverting-patients-1.6335988 I had to go in today for a blood test and they've moved lab collections to a small ~8x12 office. The UCP gave all community lab services to DynaLife. I've waited outside of their building here for an hour with an appointment and over a week for results. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/researcher-advocacy-groups-concerned-about-dynalife-takeover-of-alberta-community-lab-testing-1.5761559 Here's some nice juxtaposition https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1488889721593864192 https://twitter.com/UnitedNurses/status/1488913990348468225
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Feb 2, 2022 17:40
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Powershift posted:In non-truck news, the hospital here is loving hosed It's all to appease the chucklefucks at the border and the sisterfuckers in La Crete so he can survive his leadership review.
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Feb 2, 2022 17:50
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PT6A posted:It's all to appease the chucklefucks at the border and the sisterfuckers in La Crete so he can survive his leadership review. Ending all restrictions is polling above 50% now so expect COVID to be "over" very quickly in every province soon.
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Feb 2, 2022 17:59
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enki42 posted:Ending all restrictions is polling above 50% now so expect COVID to be "over" very quickly in every province soon. Kenney's leadership review is also April 9th so he has those crazies to appease too.
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Feb 2, 2022 18:02
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enki42 posted:Ending all restrictions is polling above 50% now so expect COVID to be "over" very quickly in every province soon. The thing is that Alberta has basically no restrictions for the vaccinated as it is. There's nothing you can't do here. So this is all about letting the loving anti-vaxx pieces of poo poo back into society to spread disease, and it should not happen. They should be even more restricted than they are.
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Feb 2, 2022 18:45
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And I'm pretty sure the small town rural areas are just open and not bothering with checks anyway, so if you're out in true Tory Territory there's not even that do deal with. The protesters are people upset at the idea of someone telling them what to do.
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Feb 2, 2022 18:51
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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https://twitter.com/btaplatt/status/1488933144489254912?s=20&t=qBiuCukPaGLf8O_e2hmVUQ
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Feb 2, 2022 18:55
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Now is Poilievre's time to shine!
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Feb 2, 2022 18:56
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Doug Ford your time is nigh
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Feb 2, 2022 19:00
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Get hosed Erin. But also, you weren't homophobic or xenophobic enough to be a conservative leader.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:03
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Feb 2, 2022 19:07
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Erin Out'oole
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Feb 2, 2022 19:08
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Er-out O'tossed I laughed when Patrick BRown was ousted from the PCPO and look where that got me, so I'm lukewarm on this
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Feb 2, 2022 19:12
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Feldegast42 posted:if this guy is aiding and abetting nazis and the current situation it doesn't matter how many puppies he pets off hours, hes a nazi He isn't. Cocaine Bear posted:Bolded the answer for ya. So I seem to be in the minority here, but I don't find "all cops are Nazis because I say so" to be logically coherent or useful. Fidelitious posted:Also, why are people in this thread going to bat for Sloly? Yes, he is probably better than the majority of police chiefs, but he is currently overseeing a complete tolerance of anything these chuds feel like doing. The OPS straight-up said that they were too scared of what they might do to enforce any kind of order on the protest. But apparently this is only a factor when it's right-wing white people that are the problem. Mostly because people are screaming that he's a Nazi, which is problematic in that it trivializes actual Nazis, and kinda gross to be saying about a black man. But to actually talk about the situation in Ottawa, what are they supposed to do that isn't going to end in a bloodbath? De-escalation and restraint from using violence is actually what we want from the police, and I'm willing to at least give them credit for the fact that there have been no deaths or injuries so far. And before everyone jumps in with "but the cops and the occupiers aren't human so their deaths don't matter", bear in mind that a full-blown street battle in downtown Ottawa would have collateral damage. Also there's this: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/truck-convoy-protesters-vow-to-stay-as-long-as-it-takes-claim-tens-of-thousands-remain quote:Describing the situation in Centretown as lawless, Somerset Coun. Catherine McKenney called on the RCMP to take operational control of convoy protesters near Parliament Hill on Wednesday so Ottawa police can “restore peace” in residential neighbourhoods. By all reports there are far more occupiers than Ottawa Police officers, and the immediate solution is to bring in the provincial RCMP. I'm not sure why that hasn't happened yet?
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Feb 2, 2022 19:13
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PT6A posted:The thing is that Alberta has basically no restrictions for the vaccinated as it is. There's nothing you can't do here. So this is all about letting the loving anti-vaxx pieces of poo poo back into society to spread disease, and it should not happen. They should be even more restricted than they are. you have to learn to live with people coughing on you. enough is enough.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:17
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Lead out in cuffs posted:By all reports there are far more occupiers than Ottawa Police officers, and the immediate solution is to bring in the provincial RCMP. I'm not sure why that hasn't happened yet?  Ontario has its own provincial police. They're here in Ottawa right now, in ones and twos from the looks of things. They could suppress this violently, but I'm not sure the mayor's office would allow it, and the premier's... well, Ford.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:18
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MNIMWA posted:Er-out O'tossed Yeah, I'm 100% sure that the replacement is going to be far worse. And given the MAGAfication of North America, potentially more successful than O'Toole was.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:21
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enki42 posted:you have to learn to live with people coughing on you. enough is enough. EDIT: It's too hard to tell what's sarcastic these days. Oops! PT6A fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Feb 2, 2022 19:24
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Why are there still cop defenders logging on. Cops have no problem brutalizing any other group in Canada when we have legitimate grievances but ohhhh noooo they just can't figure out how to handle some loving Nazis when they try to occupy they loving capitol? "A bloo bloo it might start a riot!" When the gently caress else have they ever cared about that? Nobody cares if someone is a Nazi or just a collaborator because the result is the same in the end. gently caress.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:26
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PT6A posted:gently caress off. We're still in the middle of a pandemic, more people are hospitalized for COVID in Alberta than ever before, my job is taking a beating because students and staff are too ill to come in regardless of isolation requirements, the immunocompromised are being thrown under the bus by the rest of society, people can't get necessary surgeries. You pro-COVID pieces of poo poo sicken me. Sorry, I should have made the sarcasm more obvious I guess. You definitely don't to learn to live with people coughing on you. I'm one of those 'getting thrown under the bus' folks, and just found out yesterday that I can't even take Paxlovid if I do get COVID.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:27
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leftist heap posted:https://twitter.com/btaplatt/status/1488933144489254912?s=20&t=qBiuCukPaGLf8O_e2hmVUQ 73, lmao
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Feb 2, 2022 19:27
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What's the game plan for the Tories, other than replacing O'Toole with someone less likely to pick up marginal seats?
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Feb 2, 2022 19:28
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tagesschau posted:What's the game plan for the Tories, other than replacing O'Toole with someone less likely to pick up marginal seats? step 1: out Bernier Bernier step 2: Everyone else in Canada votes for the liberals, but at least they have the 5% of chuds locked down (they probably still clean sweep alberta somehow)
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Feb 2, 2022 19:28
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enki42 posted:Sorry, I should have made the sarcasm more obvious I guess. You definitely don't to learn to live with people coughing on you. Ah, gotcha! Yeah, we cannot normalize this, but I've heard exactly what you said basically said with all sincerity, and it's just... incomprehensible to me.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:30
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enki42 posted:step 1: out Bernier Bernier Step 3: constantly talk about how Trudeau did blackface 30 years ago as if anybody actually wants Trudeau and aren't holding their nose and voting to keep the Cons from killing us all.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:31
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One positive thing is the longer the protesters hang around being total dickheads, the more they turn public sentiment against them There is a very definite change in general mood from even a couple of days ago
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Feb 2, 2022 19:33
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Powershift posted:Step 3: constantly talk about how Trudeau did blackface 30 years ago as if anybody actually wants Trudeau and aren't holding their nose and voting to keep the Cons from killing us all. Step 4: Lose a bunch of seats to the PPC anyways
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Feb 2, 2022 19:33
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tagesschau posted:What's the game plan for the Tories, other than replacing O'Toole with someone less likely to pick up marginal seats? Hope that Trudeau quits and the Libs pick Freeland, and that enough men will refuse to vote for a female PM and vote for whatever bland white guy the CPC has picked.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:34
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Slotducks posted:Doug Ford your time is nigh IMO he could actually win it all
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Feb 2, 2022 19:35
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Lead out in cuffs posted:He isn't. lol, if there's nothing they can do about this there is no reason to have a police force. They literally just sign papers for insurance companies when your poo poo gets stolen. It's almost as if the sole purpose of the police is to enforce the current social hierarchy and crush any dissent from organized groups of marginalized people.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:39
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Any premier abandoning their province during a wave to run for federal leadership is just going to get slaughtered from the left for abandoning and slaughtered from the right for putting in any restrictions at all. It's a non-starter.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:39
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Tighclops posted:Why are there still cop defenders logging on. Cops have no problem brutalizing any other group in Canada when we have legitimate grievances but ohhhh noooo they just can't figure out how to handle some loving Nazis when they try to occupy they loving capitol? "A bloo bloo it might start a riot!" When the gently caress else have they ever cared about that? Nazis are more likely to fight back, they got trucks to run over cops or smash barricades, and they could always have guns. Its a rare occasion where the usage of violence presents an unacceptable amount of risk of police injury. It's also basically just a big signal to say "if you want to protest, just make sure the cops feel sufficiently threatened"
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Feb 2, 2022 19:40
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If leftist protestors armed themselves the same way it would be an absolute bloodbath
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Feb 2, 2022 19:41
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Oxyclean posted:Nazis are more likely to fight back, they got trucks to run over cops or smash barricades, and they could always have guns. Its a rare occasion where the usage of violence presents an unacceptable amount of risk of police injury. Nah, it's that the mayor and police agree with the protestors about restrictions, the police are mostly violent reactionaries and neither see the people living in the centre of the city as their constituents.
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Feb 2, 2022 19:44
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apatheticman posted:Any premier abandoning their province during a wave to run for federal leadership is just going to get slaughtered from the left for abandoning and slaughtered from the right for putting in any restrictions at all. Jason Kenney: "So there's a chance?" Is there any law that says someone can't be Prime Minister and a Provincial Premier at the same time? or even can't be an MLA/MPP and MP at the same time?
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Feb 2, 2022 19:44
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Lead out in cuffs posted:But to actually talk about the situation in Ottawa, what are they supposed to do that isn't going to end in a bloodbath? De-escalation and restraint from using violence is actually what we want from the police, and I'm willing to at least give them credit for the fact that there have been no deaths or injuries so far. And before everyone jumps in with "but the cops and the occupiers aren't human so their deaths don't matter", bear in mind that a full-blown street battle in downtown Ottawa would have collateral damage. They could, I don't know, do their loving jobs and arrest the people committing crimes. And standing around doing nothing besides posing for photos with Nazis isn't de-escalation. De-escalation would be getting the protestors to gently caress off and stop harassing/assaulting passersby, blaring their horns, pissing on the street while waving around swastikas and confederate flags, etc. And before someone thinks of replying 'but what about other protestors', there are notable differences between the flu trux klan/Coutts blockaders and G20/indigenous protests.
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