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Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Kvlt! posted:

No Skinny Puppy, no Coil, no Wax Trax stuff, no Einstürzende Neubauten.

It's an amazing soundtrack that suits the movie perfectly but Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson are hardly an "industrial peak"

I meant that’s the best movie that features industrial that heavily. Also I have no idea who any of those bands are so it’s not like I’m an expert

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I have an issue with opening credits sequences in the late 90s/early 2000s more than anything else during that period. Even something like the opening credits of Se7en, which are celebrated to this day and considered one of the best title sequences, to me feels cheap and just not cinematic at all. I'm sure a lot of it is just me having grown up in the late 80s when simpler more elegant credits were the norm ala John Carpenter.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

FreudianSlippers posted:

A lot of big 90s to 2000s dance acts were just like the same five dudes in Sweden with random hired models in all the music videos and/or concerts.

Not saying this is a bad thing but it is an amusing thing.

Early 2000s nightlife was often a blast but the sad part (in the US at least) was how hip-hop and electro segregated hard, especially sad coming after the 90s where hip-hop and house often crossed over. Clubs would actually advertise that they were a "No Techno" establishment, you pretty much had to go to a rave or a gay bar for any electronic stuff, and good luck getting a gay bar to play any hip hop then. It was nice that barrier came down later in the decade.

The whole thing had an extremely uncomfortable unspoken "blacks vs gays" undercurrent, too. Felt bad for any gay black folks!

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Kvlt! posted:

No Skinny Puppy, no Coil, no Wax Trax stuff, no Einstürzende Neubauten.

It's an amazing soundtrack that suits the movie perfectly but Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson are hardly an "industrial peak"

Son, you weren't even alive then! You're cool and all but please sit down when grown folks is talking.

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007
tbh the only point I was trying to make is that Lost Highway is good

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Son, you weren't even alive then! You're cool and all but please sit down when grown folks is talking.

If we assume you're loving old like most ppl itt you were still probably born after half the movies we talk about. Sit down son. Only centenarians can talk about Vincent Price.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Kvlt! posted:

If we assume you're loving old like most ppl itt you were still probably born after half the movies we talk about. Sit down son. Only centenarians can talk about Vincent Price.

KID I AM VINCENT PRICE

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Vincent Price guest starred in a Columbo episode that I watched recently. Pretty cool.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...
Not really

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Basebf555 posted:

Vincent Price guest starred in a Columbo episode that I watched recently. Pretty cool.

If you like 70s character actors Columbo is a real goldmine. They’re always playing fancy murderers too.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Basebf555 posted:

Vincent Price guest starred in a Columbo episode that I watched recently. Pretty cool.

Yeah, it's an awesome episode.

There's an awesome episode with Donald Pleasance as a sommelier / wine snob, and it's one of the best Columbo episodes.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Yea the guest stars are the real draw of the show from what I've seen so far. Price, Pleasence, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Dick Van Dyke, Janet Leigh, Robert Conrad, Ricardo Montolban, and a lot more that I'm forgetting.

I like that's it's basically a 1 on 1 show, each week you get Columbo vs. the guest star and there really aren't a lot of other characters involved. It's not like one of those modern cop shows where there's ten different main characters.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Basebf555 posted:

Yea the guest stars are the real draw of the show from what I've seen so far. Price, Pleasence, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Dick Van Dyke, Janet Leigh, Robert Conrad, Ricardo Montolban, and a lot more that I'm forgetting.

And some interesting directors. Spielberg did "Murder by the Book", Jonathan Demme did "Murder Under Glass", and there's a lot of episodes directed by actors, notable TV directors, and Peter Falk himself.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
Jamie Lee Curtis popped up in an episode I saw last week for about a minute as a waitress. That was about a year before Halloween. Was weird to see her in such a small role.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

I am F.W. Murnau's skull psychically posting while floating in ectoplasmic ESP goop in a secret underground laboratory in Bielefeld.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Thinking about TCM really was kind of the quintessential early 2000s horror flick aside from maybe The Ring, like that is right smack dab the moment in-between hip funny teen slashers and the torture porn era.

And to the other posters point about the whole era being about who can dress the trashiest, the whole thing (TCM) feels like it was an excuse to make Jessica Beil run around in a wet shirt.

Irony.or.Death
Apr 1, 2009


Drunkboxer posted:

I meant that’s the best movie that features industrial that heavily. Also I have no idea who any of those bands are so it’s not like I’m an expert

Look I'll grant that Coil and EN maybe didn't have huge mainstream appeal, but the idea that Skinny Puppy isn't a household name is making me feel very disconnected from humanity re: music habits.

I'm not even that much of an industrial guy it's just, like, how do you be a teenager and not spend a bunch of time listening to Too Dark Park? Absolutely baffling

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

Pope Corky the IX posted:

The Amityville series is hilarious to me because I used to live five minutes from Ocean Ave and every single movie gets the landscape wrong. The houses are pretty close together, not on sprawling properties as depicted over and over again. What's even funnier is that one of the reasons the murders were so notable is because the houses aren't that far apart, which made the fact that none of the neighbors heard anything all night creepy as poo poo.

I used to work right there (on 110) and always think about that, also. As far as Long Island suburbs go it's not that dense, but still.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

KID I AM VINCENT PRICE

I been shitposting itt a lot longer than you old man!

Karloff
Mar 21, 2013

Weirdly TCM 2003 has the same DP as the original so I'm gonna be interested if you can get any sense of that amidst the era's aesthetic when I rewatch. I rewatched the original last night and it's still incredibly rad. It's often hailed as a film that uses documentary style camerawork but it struck me how artfully composed, smooth and dramatic a lot of the shots are. It's this great middle ground between something that feels real but also has a dramatic visual style. It's a scary film, but I still crack up at "Look what your brother did to the drat door!", his disdain is so palpable.

The ultimate example of the nu-metal horror for me is the opening of Freddy vs. Jason, where it has a scored opening sequence until the title appears and then NU METAL!

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post

Basebf555 posted:

Yea the guest stars are the real draw of the show from what I've seen so far. Price, Pleasence, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Dick Van Dyke, Janet Leigh, Robert Conrad, Ricardo Montolban, and a lot more that I'm forgetting.

freakin johnny cash!! though they have him playing a creep but its still good

Franchescanado posted:

And some interesting directors. Spielberg did "Murder by the Book", Jonathan Demme did "Murder Under Glass", and there's a lot of episodes directed by actors, notable TV directors, and Peter Falk himself.

i love the look of every harvey hart episode

AKZ
Nov 5, 2009

I like Welt

SP dystemper is good

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

2000s brought gore back to horror, which was needed. The 90s had a far worse aesthetic where everything was like Dawson's Creek except people died but in extremely non gross ways.

I think it was House of Wax that was just like "let's bring 80s gore back," and it gets credit for that for me.

I like how Texas remake looks because it's the same cinematographer from the first and he was like "let's make it pretty this time," and it is.

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Darko posted:



I like how Texas remake looks because it's the same cinematographer from the first and he was like "let's make it pretty this time," and it is.

There’s some fun shots before the long chase scene happens sure but I don’t think I would ever call it pretty. It looks the way a penny tastes.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Drunkboxer posted:

There’s some fun shots before the long chase scene happens sure but I don’t think I would ever call it pretty. It looks the way a penny tastes.

I thought the light/shadow balances were excellent. It's like urban photography applied to rural in approach.

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Basebf555 posted:

I have an issue with opening credits sequences in the late 90s/early 2000s more than anything else during that period. Even something like the opening credits of Se7en, which are celebrated to this day and considered one of the best title sequences, to me feels cheap and just not cinematic at all. I'm sure a lot of it is just me having grown up in the late 80s when simpler more elegant credits were the norm ala John Carpenter.

In the commentary track for Se7en the director (I think) talks about how they did the opening. He started out doing it the Right Way and all the work it was taking to line everything up with the images and make sure they were stable, then thought 'huh, what if we just don't do that?'. And that's how we got the scratchy jumping around credits that we did:

quote:

As Fincher explains, the opening credits came from a “practical place.” “Oftentimes, some of the most mundane things inspire,” says the director. His crew wanted to get Findlay Bunting, who shot the footage for the opening credits, a pin register camera, because they believed the titles needed to be steady. Fincher questioned this and felt that a shaky, uneven, dirty looking opening credits would fit closer to John Doe’s mindframe. The director also felt these credits gave the audience an awareness of how ugly the film would potentially get.

e:

Basebf555 posted:

Yea the guest stars are the real draw of the show from what I've seen so far. Price, Pleasence, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Dick Van Dyke, Janet Leigh, Robert Conrad, Ricardo Montolban, and a lot more that I'm forgetting.

I like that's it's basically a 1 on 1 show, each week you get Columbo vs. the guest star and there really aren't a lot of other characters involved. It's not like one of those modern cop shows where there's ten different main characters.

And not one but two episodes with Leslie Neilson :woop: Once he was the fiance of the murderer, then a few seasons later he was the killer.
There's also a very slow Colombo thread in TVIV, but some good discussions and recommendations still live there:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3920575

Irony.or.Death posted:

I'm not even that much of an industrial guy it's just, like, how do you be a teenager and not spend a bunch of time listening to Too Dark Park? Absolutely baffling

I still remember some ancient Web 1.0 site that detailed the way you could tell if you had the original release of Rabies or the corrected remix :corsair: (thunder sound effect was at the end of track 10 in one, beginning of 11 in the other).

Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Feb 3, 2022

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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The se7en titles kick rear end.

A True Jar Jar Fan
Nov 3, 2003

Primadonna

Clearcut ruled, this is my favorite movie on the folk horror box set so far. Graham Greene is absolutely incredible here, he just oozes elemental menace while still somehow being charming.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/screammovies/status/1489290934579720192?s=21

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

I hope there are even more jokes about how Jordan Peele is the GOAT and that Babadook is the essential modern “elevated” horror classic.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Still mad I can't see nuScream yet

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??
Give me STAB dammit!

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

my favorite part of Scream 2 is when you see a clip from Stab and it's Tori Spelling and Luke Wilson badly reciting dialogue from Scream.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
The whole theater scene in scream 2 is masterful.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

my favorite part of Scream 2 is when you see a clip from Stab and it's Tori Spelling and Luke Wilson badly reciting dialogue from Scream.

Luke Wilson's wig in that scene is perfect lol

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Basebf555 posted:

Luke Wilson's wig in that scene is perfect lol

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Irony.or.Death posted:

Look I'll grant that Coil and EN maybe didn't have huge mainstream appeal, but the idea that Skinny Puppy isn't a household name is making me feel very disconnected from humanity re: music habits.

I'm not even that much of an industrial guy it's just, like, how do you be a teenager and not spend a bunch of time listening to Too Dark Park? Absolutely baffling

I've got some bad news

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

I would be shocked if I met someone under 30 who knew who Skinny Puppy was

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
It's me I don't know who Skinny Puppy is

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Kvlt!
May 19, 2012





Got this bad boy in the mail today

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