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Sash! posted:So... Now you have to walk across like a couple miles of open desert because you clearly didn't park within eyeshot. Guess you're pretty confident that no one is going to just snipe you in the back eh? He had rocket boots in TCW/Bad Batch, but it didn’t look like it here.
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site posted:ughhhhh my poor baby Vanth immediately knowing what was up and acting appropriately was cool as gently caress too. He looked like he had a plan of some sort to play off the Pikes and anyone they sent, but his dumbass deputy got in the way. Good episode I thought..
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Feb 2, 2022 20:07
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Lol at them just giving Boba no lines and barely appearing in his own show. I mean you could say they're honoring his role in the OT by doing this but it's clear now they had no plan for this show other than for it to be a way that they can get Grogu back with Din for the opening of Season 3 and keep selling that Grogu merch that has probably made them countless dollars. I read people theorizing that season 3 would barely have Grogu in it and he'd be off doing Jedi things and come back later but just come on if you don't realize by now that for Disney this show is more about the cash cow that is baby Yoda than it is the Mandalorian at this point. The sad thing is there was some good potential for TBOBF as an idea, but really with how boring they've someone managed to make the two main characters Boba and Fennec this season where they're outshone by basically everyone else, the fact that there's really no interesting bad guy, a threat we get no real sense of apart from telling us there's a threat over various discussions or while looking at a map until I suppose the bomb in this episode, abandoning the only really interesting part of the show in the Tuskens, alongside a deluge of other things I can't see many really being interested in season 2 of this show unless it just stays like this where Boba is put to the side and we get way more interesting characters on screen, nor do I get the feeling based on putting 2 episodes of the Mandalorian in this series that they care or have plans to continue it. Yes people will be interested because it's more Star Wars but I cannot imagine it would be for the titular character at this point. Boba with how they've characterized him so far is boring, but Boba walking around chatting to people as a crime lord is worse, I think ideally if his little fiefdom collapses at the end of the series and he has to go be adventurer Boba and he gets off Tatooine (because frankly I'm sick of Tatooine at this point, how refreshing was that Ringworld?) I'll be a lot more invested than right now. Just Chamber fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Feb 2, 2022 20:53
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Just Chamber posted:I think ideally if his little fiefdom collapses at the end of the series and he has to go be adventurer Boba and he gets off Tatooine Can I interest you in a show called The Mandalorian?
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Feb 2, 2022 21:16
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stev posted:Can I interest you in a show called The Mandalorian? That's kind of the problem isn't it? The show Boba should have been in got made before him. I don't really want him exactly like Mando at this point, exploring the galaxy and doing jobs etc but there are cool things you could have him do off Tatooine that are germane to his character. For example have him hear of a group of clones somewhere in the galaxy that need some help or what have you, make it about him confronting the fact that he himself is a clone, what that means to his identity? gently caress it bring Mace Windu/ SLJ back and make it about him wanting revenge or just have him go to Geonosis to try to come to terms with his father's death which clearly still haunts him based on his Bacta dreams, then he can fight a bunch of space bugs too.
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Feb 2, 2022 21:21
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I definitely wouldn't mind an Adventure-of-the-Week style Star Wars series without a unified moment-to-moment plotline, but whatever.
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Feb 2, 2022 21:24
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The Book of everyone but Boba Fett is pretty good.
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Feb 2, 2022 21:27
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Just Chamber posted:That's kind of the problem isn't it? The show Boba should have been in got made before him. I don't really want him exactly like Mando at this point, exploring the galaxy and doing jobs etc but there are cool things you could have him do off Tatooine that are germane to his character. For example have him hear of a group of clones somewhere in the galaxy that need some help or what have you, make it about him confronting the fact that he himself is a clone, what that means to his identity? gently caress it bring Mace Windu/ SLJ back and make it about him wanting revenge or just have him go to Geonosis to try to come to terms with his father's death which clearly still haunts him based on his Bacta dreams, then he can fight a bunch of space bugs too. Sorry, no time for that. We need to spend 2 episodes worth of flashbacks learning how he got his iconic checks notes gaffi stick. And then basically 2 whole episodes for another show.
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Feb 2, 2022 21:27
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I’m curious why Ahsoka was even visiting Luke in the first place. She’s got her own important mission and no real lost love for the Jedi, even if this particular Jedi is Anakin’s son. She seems like a character who’d obviously know about or sense Luke but deliberately keep her distance and do her own thing.
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Feb 2, 2022 21:32
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’m curious why Ahsoka was even visiting Luke in the first place. She’s got her own important mission and no real lost love for the Jedi, even if this particular Jedi is Anakin’s son. She seems like a character who’d obviously know about or sense Luke but deliberately keep her distance and do her own thing. I'm sure we'll find out in their own show. This episode was definitely another backdoor pilot.
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Feb 2, 2022 21:33
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Holy poo poo Luke force hopping Grogu so he could keep up was the most sickening adorable thing ever put on screen Agreed. Overall, whatever combination of puppetry and digital animation they use for him is so fun to watch.
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Feb 2, 2022 21:36
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mutata posted:I definitely wouldn't mind an Adventure-of-the-Week style Star Wars series without a unified moment-to-moment plotline, but whatever. That would be brilliant. Keep it to six to eight episodes a season and make each one 45 minutes. Throw a little more budget at it and put out the word to the world's greatest directors and actors: "Hey, want to finally head a line a Star Wars property that won't require you to sign away 5 years or your life to a Trilogy"? That's prestige Emmy-bait TV, right there.
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Ralph Hurley posted:Agreed. Overall, whatever combination of puppetry and digital animation they use for him is so fun to watch. Grogu was intensely cute this episode except for the bits where he was dodging the remote on those rocks. That scene looked a little bit janky, but it may just be because it’s one of the first times he isn’t noticeably just a puppet of some kind.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’m curious why Ahsoka was even visiting Luke in the first place. She’s got her own important mission and no real lost love for the Jedi, even if this particular Jedi is Anakin’s son. She seems like a character who’d obviously know about or sense Luke but deliberately keep her distance and do her own thing. I imagine it's probably because of two reasons she has her mission so she cant look after Grogu but she is likely wanting to check he's doing well with the person she entrusted him to, but most likely it's because Luke's father meant the world to her and she has some attachment to Luke because of that. The other interesting option they could explore is that she saw the best person she knew fall to the dark side, so she's maybe just checking Luke is not slipping into his father's habits Just Chamber fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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I don't know why the syndicate would really worry about a small town joining up with Boba Fett, but ok. So Grogu picks Bilbo's mythril chainmail and when Luke shows up to drop the kid off he's going to almost singlehandedly smash the syndicate on tatooine because that's the fastest way to resolve all this what with the lack of real power at Bobas castle grayskull?
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Feb 2, 2022 22:05
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’m curious why Ahsoka was even visiting Luke in the first place. She’s got her own important mission and no real lost love for the Jedi, even if this particular Jedi is Anakin’s son. She seems like a character who’d obviously know about or sense Luke but deliberately keep her distance and do her own thing. Purely so they can remind non hardcore nerd fans that she’s a Star Wars thing and will get her own show eventually.
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well why not posted:They figured out that Temuera Morrison isn’t a good enough actor for his own show two episode ago. He's actually got a shitload of charisma but I think ultimately he was wrong for the part. You can see it bleeding through when he's teaching the Sandpeople to ride speederbikes, hell, pretty much everything with the Sandpeople. And he's got a crazy good war face. But he's wasted on "just sort of hanging out and being stoic".
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Feb 2, 2022 22:14
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Blackchamber posted:I don't know why the syndicate would really worry about a small town joining up with Boba Fett, but ok. Probably because that small town shot 3 of their dudes dead in the sand.
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Feb 2, 2022 22:16
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Found a lot of Luke's deliveries off-putting, but that's mostly due to playing around with 15.ai and other TTS programs, so you start to notice when a voice doesn't quite match the original and you can tell that while they have a large sample of Mark Hamill's voice from the 70's-80's to feed into the generator they're using, it's still not enough to make it sound completely natural
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Jerkface posted:Probably because that small town shot 3 of their dudes dead in the sand. Oh no. That leaves only like 3 or 4 other guys in the entire syndicate right?
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Blackchamber posted:Oh no. That leaves only like 3 or 4 other guys in the entire syndicate right? crime syndicates, notoriously easy going and chill about their members being murdered
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Just Chamber posted:I imagine it's probably because of two reasons she has her mission so she cant look after Grogu but she is likely wanting to check he's doing well with the person she entrusted him to, but most likely it's because Luke's father meant the world to her and she has some attachment to Luke because of that. The other interesting option they could explore is that she saw the best person she knew fall to the dark side, so she's maybe just checking Luke is not slipping into his father's habits I figured There's not a bunch of Jedi left. She just wanted to make contact so they both knew there was someone else out there.
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Jerkface posted:Probably because that small town shot 3 of their dudes dead in the sand. They didn't turn up for revenge though. The fact that they knew right away that Mando was asking the town to join them and turn up 15 seconds after he leaves makes it clear that someone at that meeting is a traitor, my guess is on Fennec who thinks Boba is just too weak at this point, and Ming-Na Wen is just too good of an actress to stick around in this for another season honestly. They blew up Jennifer Beals so it's a bit dashed now, but I had a theory that she was a big time player and the whole helmet cleaning thing was a way to spy on people, and that she'd put a bug in Boba's helmet, which would have been a pretty neat reveal if it turns out that the syndicate knew about the town potentially joining Mando because of her intel but as they killed her I don't think that works. Also it makes Boba more of a bumbling idiot than he is already edit: got my actresses mixed up Just Chamber fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Jerkface posted:crime syndicates, notoriously easy going and chill about their members being murdered They are going to war, they are expecting to stack bodies to achieve victory. Why further antagonize a town that they know hast thrown in with Boba yet instead of just waiting to get revenge and wipe the town out after they have dealt with Fett? And if they were really concerned about people joining the cause firebombing a casino full of people seems like another bad idea because it sends a bad message to the parties still being neutral. Hard not to see it as a false flag though.
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Ashoka is there because some moron is trying to restart the Jedi order and she wants to keep a close eye on his progress to make sure he's not royally loving it up. Unfortunately she leaves slightly too early to accomplish that. Luke's hypocrisy about attachments works for me here. Yes, attachments were the only thing that helped him save his own father and take down the Empire. Were he a perfect person (and a one-note character like the TLJ-haters seem to want) he would recognize that and leave the Jedi Order behind. He would create a new, more humane group of force users under a new name—one that Ashoka could join and help to guide without the baggage of the Jedi. Together they could let the past die. But Luke is a Jedi, like his father before him. And despite everything he's been through he's still a naive idealist who wants to rebuild the Jedi order. Save it. Redeem it—like he redeemed his father. But tellingly, Ashoka confirms that he still refers to himself as "master" here. Luke, the son of a slave who got callously transferred from one master to another as a child, is still calling himself "master." The fact that the irony is lost on him is quite tragic. He wants to do better. He wants to give Grogu the choice that Anakin never had. So he's not just repeating the exact same mistakes as the Jedi—by forcing him to make a choice he's making all new mistakes. And the fact that Ben is going to come along, be confronted with that same choice, and make the wrong one (because of his own attachment to the very person who is forcing him to make the choice!) is doubly tragic. No wonder he wants to kill old things. Luke is trying to evolve, but he doesn't have a rulebook, a guiding hand, or a positive role model. Instead of trusting his own instincts and forging a new path, he's looking backward and leaning on nostalgia for a time that never existed. It's an extremely baby boomer thing to do, which fits perfectly in with Luke's character and where we know he ends up. Luke has a long journey full of hard lessons ahead of him leading up to getting his own redemption in TLJ. Making Luke a perfect wise saint would be a massive mistake. I'm glad Filoni is trying for something a bit more complex, and it's what elevates this above fan fiction for me. It's really good long-form storytelling and it gives me hope that there may some day be more to these shows than just fanservice and empty calories. Overall, solid episode, and one that reinforces my hope that these TV shows are being thought of as mini arcs in The Star Wars show ala arcs in The Clone Wars. If so I'd prefer it hew a little closer to TLW, though, because 3 episode arcs are way punchier than 8 episode arcs. And way less of a disappointment if they're as lame as Boba's. I paused it once Mando got back into his spaceship and forgot about it for a while because I'm so uninterested in what's going on on Tattooine. That being said, when I picked it back up the rest of the episode was good fun. At this point these shows are total junk food, but they seem to be embracing that with all the straight "vibing" episodes. And there's nothing wrong with chowing down on some potato chips every once in a while. But geez, Boba himself is such a boring dork. I hope none of the rest of the episodes center around him. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Grogu was intensely cute this episode except for the bits where he was dodging the remote on those rocks. That scene looked a little bit janky, but it may just be because it’s one of the first times he isn’t noticeably just a puppet of some kind. I was wondering how or if they would go this direction with him and yeah, it seemed off at times.
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So when Mando needs to pee does he have to hope there's a habitable planet nearby he can stop off at? Do Mandalorians pee? The old ship had a toilet I think.
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Grand Fromage posted:So when Mando needs to pee does he have to hope there's a habitable planet nearby he can stop off at? Do Mandalorians pee? The old ship had a toilet I think. quote:Piddle Packs are small bags male fighter pilots use to pee while in flight. Piddle-packs are the ultimate long road trip solution. They are specially shaped bags with absorbent beads in them.
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Just Chamber posted:Lol at them just giving Boba no lines and barely appearing in his own show. Well, Temuera did say in an interview that he thought Boba was talking too much...
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Grand Fromage posted:So when Mando needs to pee does he have to hope there's a habitable planet nearby he can stop off at? Do Mandalorians pee? The old ship had a toilet I think. There's a whole compartment behind him that he could stick a toilet in.
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feedmyleg posted:But geez, Boba himself is such a boring dork. I hope none of the rest of the episodes center around him. Season finale is next week so bad news 
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stev posted:There's a whole compartment behind him that he could stick a toilet in. Doesn't seem like enough room to maneuver to get back there. I dunno. Maybe there's a pee tube?
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stev posted:There's a whole compartment behind him that he could stick a refresher in. Ftfy
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Bismuth posted:It is kinda weird/funny that the entire galaxy seems to be run and dominated by the shittiest most selfish assholes imaginable, and yet the Sith who's whole thing is supposed to be being lovely selfish assholes are nearly wiped out and the Jedi are the top force users. I mean, until you realize the jedi are also incredibly lovely selfish assholes then it sorta evens out Just like real life
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Davros1 posted:Grogu's going to go off and join Din, but without Luke to guide him, he's going to turn to the Dark Side Lol, he’s got Mando to guide him, a much better father figure than Luke ever will be.
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