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Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Trabisnikof posted:

I’d rather have an academic spend 30 minutes to say something so overly caveated that it’s meaningless than have another physicist or economist proudly declare they’ve figured out society (because their field really studies everything) and confidently spout some simplistic bullshit.

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Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

Frosted Flake posted:

I thought the latest Chapo yesterday was a breath of fresh air if only because it was the first time Will and Felix have expressed being pissed at Democrat voters, as well as Warren supporters, when referencing the 2020 Primary. When the 🐍Dolchstoß🐍 happened they were candid about who Warren supporters are, including a lot of progressive figures on twitter and in the media, and Christman has spent a lot of time explaining how the Democrats and Biden have all of this unearned loyalty from older working and middle class people, but I appreciated them speaking earnestly about the people who came out in South Carolina to stop Bernie because the Democratic party told them to, against their own material interests.The example they used on the ep was that all of these polls that show support for M4A mean jack poo poo because these same people all came out to vote for Biden, explicitly to stop M4A. The Democrats have this disciplined bloc of voters who believe whatever the party tells them to believe, and so support the same party and system that perpetuates and deepens the issues they express concern about when polled. How could you not be frustrated with them?

Warren Voter PMC, Millennials That Made It, the Pod Jons, Julia Ioffe, the people saying Bernie lost because he went on Rogan all over twitter this week, it's easy enough to express anger at them. They're acting out of their class interest, and however much they try to disguise it behind mealy mouthed bullshit, aesthetics, cultural affectations, you can see that there's no persuading them - they're naturally opposed to Sanders' project.

It's so much harder to express anger at Biden voters. Clyburn's machinations, Obama's phone call, the media making sure that the second any candidate not-Bernie won a primary, whatever constituency got him across the line was the Real Soul of the Democratic Party, that the entire press would go all-out to carry that candidate - in this case Biden's corpse - across the finish line, I can understand that too. That's the Party and the class they represent protecting their own interests. It's the people that facilitated this, stood in line to vote, supported a candidate explicitly against all of the things that - when polled - they care about, what are you supposed to say about them? During the election - probably still now if you care about what the Online Lib-Left, Twitter, Warren Supporters have to say - you would get dog pilled and accused of being racist for condescending and saying that these people were stopping Bernie when Bernie was the only candidate that stood to make their lives better.

Remember? Low Information Voters is a Racist Dogwhistle, listen to BIPOC voices when they support Biden, where the Black Community leads the Democratic Party should follow, all of that poo poo. Well, when you read Black voters in South Carolina voice frustration with Biden's first year in office, it's just such a relief to hear somebody on the left say "gently caress them".

We have a saying "Ontario gets what Ontario voted for", and watching these older, working and middle class people come out to do the legwork of the capitalists and PMC to stop Corbyn and Bernie because the loving news told them to, wonder why their lives are still bad, and then go right back to supporting those structures, you do have to throw up your hands because they're living in the world that they voted for, gently caress them.

:actually: Bernie's bad because he didn't do a Bull Moose run or whatever other jerkoff fantasy his posting-only supporters had (and worse he gave my five dollars to Joe Biden!!!!) :argh:

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004


quote:

Smith said that while Biden has not done enough to improve voting rights, she praised his efforts to quash the Covid pandemic, to improve the economy and to ensure that Americans are protected both from domestic and foreign threats.

just loving lmao

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Clark Nova posted:

just loving lmao

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


buy your own drat fries

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Bust Rodd posted:

the posters who try to own me are dumb, it’s ok.

I do own you tho. you are my nft b*tch

tiberion02
Mar 26, 2007

People tend to make the common mistake of believing that a situation will last forever.

Frosted Flake posted:

I thought the latest Chapo yesterday was a breath of fresh air if only because it was the first time Will and Felix have expressed being pissed at Democrat voters, as well as Warren supporters, when referencing the 2020 Primary. When the 🐍Dolchstoß🐍 happened they were candid about who Warren supporters are, including a lot of progressive figures on twitter and in the media, and Christman has spent a lot of time explaining how the Democrats and Biden have all of this unearned loyalty from older working and middle class people, but I appreciated them speaking earnestly about the people who came out in South Carolina to stop Bernie because the Democratic party told them to, against their own material interests. The example they used on the ep was that all of these polls that show support for M4A mean jack poo poo because these same people all came out to vote for Biden, explicitly to stop M4A. The Democrats have this disciplined bloc of voters who believe whatever the party tells them to believe, and so support the same party and system that perpetuates and deepens the issues they express concern about when polled. How could you not be frustrated with them?

Warren Voter PMC, Millennials That Made It, the Pod Jons, Julia Ioffe, the people saying Bernie lost because he went on Rogan all over twitter this week, it's easy enough to express anger at them. They're acting out of their class interest, and however much they try to disguise it behind mealy mouthed bullshit, aesthetics, cultural affectations, you can see that there's no persuading them - they're naturally opposed to Sanders' project.

It's so much harder to express anger at Biden voters. Clyburn's machinations, Obama's phone call, the media making sure that the second any candidate not-Bernie won a primary, whatever constituency got him across the line was the Real Soul of the Democratic Party, that the entire press would go all-out to carry that candidate - in this case Biden's corpse - across the finish line, I can understand that too. That's the Party and the class they represent protecting their own interests. It's the people that facilitated this, stood in line to vote, supported a candidate explicitly against all of the things that - when polled - they care about, what are you supposed to say about them? During the election - probably still now if you care about what the Online Lib-Left, Twitter, Warren Supporters have to say - you would get dog pilled and accused of being racist for condescending and saying that these people were stopping Bernie when Bernie was the only candidate that stood to make their lives better.

Remember? Low Information Voters is a Racist Dogwhistle, listen to BIPOC voices when they support Biden, where the Black Community leads the Democratic Party should follow, all of that poo poo. Well, when you read Black voters in South Carolina voice frustration with Biden's first year in office, it's just such a relief to hear somebody on the left say "gently caress them".

We have a saying "Ontario gets what Ontario voted for", and watching these older, working and middle class people come out to do the legwork of the capitalists and PMC to stop Corbyn and Bernie because the loving news told them to, wonder why their lives are still bad, and then go right back to supporting those structures, you do have to throw up your hands because they're living in the world that they voted for, gently caress them.

overall a very good post, and a lot of :same:

this was why i can only get so mad at the olde sheep dogger himself, Bernie, or even any individual member of the Squad - and agree w/Chapos that noone should feel regretful about anything they did for Bernie's campaign... he surely, better than any poster in CSPAM, recognized the fundamental truth that about 60-70% of the Democratic party are, fundamentally:

a disciplined bloc of voters who believe whatever the party tells them to believe, and so support the same party and system that perpetuates and deepens the issues they express concern about when polled.

Democrats delenda est

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Oh hell yeah

https://twitter.com/E1podcast/status/1488627976380076037?t=em66lbE88XUsKuZebX2Bqw&s=19

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

i say swears online posted:

how many podcasts can boast having interviewed the likes of democratic socialist Amber A’Lee Frost and Steve Bannon?

lol

Frosted Flake posted:

I know What’s Left and Aimee Therese have been going in that direction for a while, but their latest episode is a flattering and credulous interview with JD Vance.

How have none of these podcasts interviewed Josh Hawley yet

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Frosted Flake posted:

I thought the latest Chapo yesterday was a breath of fresh air if only because it was the first time Will and Felix have expressed being pissed at Democrat voters, as well as Warren supporters, when referencing the 2020 Primary. When the 🐍Dolchstoß🐍 happened they were candid about who Warren supporters are, including a lot of progressive figures on twitter and in the media, and Christman has spent a lot of time explaining how the Democrats and Biden have all of this unearned loyalty from older working and middle class people, but I appreciated them speaking earnestly about the people who came out in South Carolina to stop Bernie because the Democratic party told them to, against their own material interests.The example they used on the ep was that all of these polls that show support for M4A mean jack poo poo because these same people all came out to vote for Biden, explicitly to stop M4A. The Democrats have this disciplined bloc of voters who believe whatever the party tells them to believe, and so support the same party and system that perpetuates and deepens the issues they express concern about when polled. How could you not be frustrated with them?

Warren Voter PMC, Millennials That Made It, the Pod Jons, Julia Ioffe, the people saying Bernie lost because he went on Rogan all over twitter this week, it's easy enough to express anger at them. They're acting out of their class interest, and however much they try to disguise it behind mealy mouthed bullshit, aesthetics, cultural affectations, you can see that there's no persuading them - they're naturally opposed to Sanders' project.

It's so much harder to express anger at Biden voters. Clyburn's machinations, Obama's phone call, the media making sure that the second any candidate not-Bernie won a primary, whatever constituency got him across the line was the Real Soul of the Democratic Party, that the entire press would go all-out to carry that candidate - in this case Biden's corpse - across the finish line, I can understand that too. That's the Party and the class they represent protecting their own interests. It's the people that facilitated this, stood in line to vote, supported a candidate explicitly against all of the things that - when polled - they care about, what are you supposed to say about them? During the election - probably still now if you care about what the Online Lib-Left, Twitter, Warren Supporters have to say - you would get dog pilled and accused of being racist for condescending and saying that these people were stopping Bernie when Bernie was the only candidate that stood to make their lives better.

Remember? Low Information Voters is a Racist Dogwhistle, listen to BIPOC voices when they support Biden, where the Black Community leads the Democratic Party should follow, all of that poo poo. Well, when you read Black voters in South Carolina voice frustration with Biden's first year in office, it's just such a relief to hear somebody on the left say "gently caress them".

We have a saying "Ontario gets what Ontario voted for", and watching these older, working and middle class people come out to do the legwork of the capitalists and PMC to stop Corbyn and Bernie because the loving news told them to, wonder why their lives are still bad, and then go right back to supporting those structures, you do have to throw up your hands because they're living in the world that they voted for, gently caress them.

i felt that felix rant pretty hard as i too maxed out to bernie, and realizing just how lovely and infested the bernie campaign was with these cretins had me just depressed at the waste of it all

congrats, warrenites and twitter scolds, you've further cemented in me that class war is the only war and all flows down from that

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Shipon posted:

congrats, warrenites and twitter scolds, you've further cemented in me that class war is the only war and all flows down from that

Exactly. Seeing what they did to Corbyn, then Bernie, then watch the NDP try to outflank the Liberals to the right, there’s really no going back for me. I’m done with all of that poo poo, and I wonder if liberals realize that each time they do something like this is hardens people against scolding and appeals to norms and decorum.

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

Frosted Flake posted:

you would get dog pilled and accused of being racist for condescending and...

sorry FF, but i'm def NOT getting dog pilled under any circumstances

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

mark immune posted:

sorry FF, but i'm def NOT getting dog pilled under any circumstances

Why did you read that

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

tokin opposition posted:

Why did you read that

i'm insane

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

mark immune posted:

sorry FF, but i'm def NOT getting dog pilled under any circumstances

but we were just talking about the warren campaign

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Frosted Flake posted:

I know What’s Left and Aimee Therese have been going in that direction for a while, but their latest episode is a flattering and credulous interview with JD Vance.
that's sad even for her. JD vance is like NPR's idea of a populist right winger on track to lose badly

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

Shipon posted:

but we were just talking about the warren campaign

no... not big structural bailey...

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Frosted Flake posted:

Exactly. Seeing what they did to Corbyn, then Bernie, then watch the NDP try to outflank the Liberals to the right, there’s really no going back for me. I’m done with all of that poo poo, and I wonder if liberals realize that each time they do something like this is hardens people against scolding and appeals to norms and decorum.

clearly not with the white house apparently going after joe rogan lol

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

mark immune posted:

no... not big structural bailey...

https://twitter.com/len0killer/status/1235076513088901121?t=viLDe3rSP0c1zv7PHPvoQg&s=19

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Dreylad posted:

clearly not with the white house apparently going after joe rogan lol

I still can’t believe that poo poo, incredible. Who do they think is more popular - Joe Rogan or Joe Biden?

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018


You couldn't make a joke like that these days

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Gripweed posted:

You couldn't make a joke like that these days

Well yes, the record has gotten so high as to be almost unattainable

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Frosted Flake posted:

I thought the latest Chapo yesterday was a breath of fresh air if only because it was the first time Will and Felix have expressed being pissed at Democrat voters, as well as Warren supporters, when referencing the 2020 Primary. When the 🐍Dolchstoß🐍 happened they were candid about who Warren supporters are, including a lot of progressive figures on twitter and in the media, and Christman has spent a lot of time explaining how the Democrats and Biden have all of this unearned loyalty from older working and middle class people, but I appreciated them speaking earnestly about the people who came out in South Carolina to stop Bernie because the Democratic party told them to, against their own material interests.The example they used on the ep was that all of these polls that show support for M4A mean jack poo poo because these same people all came out to vote for Biden, explicitly to stop M4A. The Democrats have this disciplined bloc of voters who believe whatever the party tells them to believe, and so support the same party and system that perpetuates and deepens the issues they express concern about when polled. How could you not be frustrated with them?
Yeah, this is why I've lost interest in electoral politics and I've weaned myself off of arguing with Donut Twitter and liberal grandparents. The cronies are going to be cronies, and the only thing I have to say to any disappointed Biden voters is that they're getting what they voted for.

I guess the thing that saddens me and gets under my skin is that trusting the process and the status quo is very much an article of faith among Democratic voters. I think it was Felix who said that a big takeaway from 2020 is that Republicans have lost faith in major media networks but Democrats haven't, so the Democratic electorate can still be herded into voting for corporate-friendly centrists. But the problem of misguided faith in institutions is even bigger than that, and I find myself coming around to the position that I want the corruption and class warfare to become, if not more severe, then more blatant, to hopefully shock people out of this idea that Our Democracy is worth saving and that we can get it by putting our faith in the police.

For the people who drive us nuts by saying it's racist not to vote for Biden or whoever, there's no sense in letting it get to you. The only thing I have to say to those people is that Republicans are winning out of proportion to their numbers because they're willing to withhold their vote.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

https://twitter.com/crulge/status/1488985002058551297

edit aww he deleted the screenshot from the street fight group. someone asked about drug test advice as a weed smoker and the first response was to do literally every other drug so it looks like a false positive while they cleanse before a retest

i say swears online has issued a correction as of 22:49 on Feb 2, 2022

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
just take so many drugs that their drug machine blows the hell up

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

I got like a month probe and a ban for posting this tweet in DnD.

Raqqa Flocka Flame
Dec 14, 2017
Cool to hear the "World of Wars" crossover on the opening of this week's Cumtown. I wonder when they're gonna have Annibale on.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

mcmagic posted:

I got like a month probe and a ban for posting this tweet in DnD.

lmao

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

mcmagic posted:

I got like a month probe and a ban for posting this tweet in DnD.

Posting some sort of weird and gross bestiality tweet thing.

Lmao fool of sound more like full of cum (dog cum)

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Lmao fool of sound more like full of cum (dog cum)

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

mcmagic posted:

I got like a month probe and a ban for posting this tweet in DnD.

Your only ban and probe that was an actual injustice

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Mr Hootington posted:

Your only ban and probe that was an actual injustice

All my DnD probes were bullshit. I got multiple probes for saying mean things about Cory Booker, Nancy Pelosi and Andrew Cuomo.

mcmagic has issued a correction as of 00:59 on Feb 3, 2022

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

The cum town ex girlfriend to prestige indie drama pipeline is real

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

Trabisnikof posted:

I’d rather have an academic spend 30 minutes to say something so overly caveated that it’s meaningless than have another physicist or economist proudly declare they’ve figured out society (because their field really studies everything) and confidently spout some simplistic bullshit.

I have a friend who is still pissed at me because when he told me his theory of society I said it sounded like he was describing superstructure. poo poo man I was just trying to be helpful.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Wizard Master posted:

The cum town ex girlfriend to prestige indie drama pipeline is real

Greetings wizard master.

am we supposed to recognize anyone here

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
the very greasy girl on the right got dumped by stav

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

slave to my cravings posted:

the very greasy girl on the right got dumped by stav

lol she's way out of his league and she's made at least 1 good movie.

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Shipon posted:

i felt that felix rant pretty hard as i too maxed out to bernie, and realizing just how lovely and infested the bernie campaign was with these cretins had me just depressed at the waste of it all

congrats, warrenites and twitter scolds, you've further cemented in me that class war is the only war and all flows down from that

Briahna Gray was a misstep and I like Sirota but I'm sure people who know more about campaigning could criticize him. However, Faiz Shakir was one of those consultant scam artists in sheep's clothing, a Manchurian candidate, with the benefit of hindsight I can't say enough bad things about him.

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tiberion02
Mar 26, 2007

People tend to make the common mistake of believing that a situation will last forever.

Dmitri-9 posted:

Briahna Gray was a misstep and I like Sirota but I'm sure people who know more about campaigning could criticize him. However, Faiz Shakir was one of those consultant scam artists in sheep's clothing, a Manchurian candidate, with the benefit of hindsight I can't say enough bad things about him.

Jeff... Weaver

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