EU Politics: I miss Renaults(don't make fun of me)

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BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

Antigravitas posted:

Having read the actual text, sounds good? DNSSEC validating recursive resolver free for use and not Google.

I use my own recursive resolver, but it would be useful elsewhere.

Well, that's fine then - because surely there's no way it'll be used to filter things not originally intended.
It definitely didn't happen that way with the Danish DNS filter (which was initially implemented in order to, quite reasonably, filter certain types of pornography that shouldn't even exist), but now gets used to filter whatever the government thinks are harmful drugs as well as AllOfMp3, ThePirateBay, diet pills, online gambling, and probably many other things.

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CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

EU wants to build its own DNS infrastructure with built-in filtering capabilities.

Not the worst idea at all, and you can always point at someone elses DNS.

# ? Jan 19, 2022 21:23

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Well, that's fine then - because surely there's no way it'll be used to filter things not originally intended.
It definitely didn't happen that way with the Danish DNS filter (which was initially implemented in order to, quite reasonably, filter certain types of pornography that shouldn't even exist), but now gets used to filter whatever the government thinks are harmful drugs as well as AllOfMp3, ThePirateBay, diet pills, online gambling, and probably many other things.

And if that was done on the free offering people would stop using it again.

Any corporate customer using that service will require blacklisting of domains or they'll use another offering.

# ? Jan 19, 2022 21:38

Antifa Poltergeist: Jun 3, 2004; "We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"

CommieGIR posted:

Not the worst idea at all, and you can always point at someone elses DNS.

Yeah, this is ok.its also another stick to beat google on the head. Though this part
"This filtering capability would be built using threat intelligence feeds provided by trusted partners, such as national CERT teams, " needs some athinkin, cause if recent governments attitude also reflect here can't wait to be able to acess the azov battalion webpage but not doctors whitout borders.

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Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

welp the official fascist party has now the fourth most members in the portuguese parliament

# ? Jan 30, 2022 21:31

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

Honest Thief posted:

welp the official fascist party has now the fourth most members in the portuguese parliament

What does Portugal have to go fash about? I know nothing about the place. The usual, refugees and vaxes?

# ? Jan 30, 2022 21:40

Skull Servant: Oct 25, 2009

aphid_licker posted:

What does Portugal have to go fash about? I know nothing about the place. The usual, refugees and vaxes?

Remnants of Salazar thought within the nation?

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aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

Skull Servant posted:

Remnants of Salazar thought within the nation?

Angola and Mozambique better strap in :v:

# ? Jan 30, 2022 21:47

Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

aphid_licker posted:

What does Portugal have to go fash about? I know nothing about the place. The usual, refugees and vaxes?

i mean, same as every other nation going fash i guess, everyone's getting poorer and "corruption" and immigrants is a easy way to fan the flames
oh and the store brand chicago boys liberals also got a great turn in this time

# ? Jan 30, 2022 22:00

Fucker: Jan 4, 2013

voted bloco de esquerda trying to avoid this, but saw it coming from a mile away. this is very similar to the "we need to vote biden to stop trump!!!" nonsense. gently caress costa.

# ? Jan 30, 2022 23:42

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

aphid_licker posted:

What does Portugal have to go fash about? I know nothing about the place. The usual, refugees and vaxes?

I know it's hard for Americans to remember* that Portugal used to have a colonial empire but i would guess Portuguese speaking Africans or Brazilians coming to Portugal to work anger those fascists?

*Or you know "learn in school with Texas approved books which don't cover jackshit outside the country".

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jan 31, 2022

# ? Jan 31, 2022 13:58

Alchenar: Apr 9, 2008

Portugal becoming a democracy in 1976 is shockingly recent if you just assume it's like every other Western European country.

# ? Jan 31, 2022 14:34

Osmosisch: Sep 9, 2007; I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."; Grimey Drawer

Alchenar posted:

Portugal becoming a democracy in 1976 is shockingly recent if you just assume it's like every other Western European country.

Plenty of European countries have had little a dictatorship, as a treat, since ww2.

At least they tend to get kicked out every so often unlike our creepy monarchs.

# ? Jan 31, 2022 16:01

Somaen: Nov 19, 2007; by vyelkin

Toplowtech posted:

I know it's hard for Americans to remember* that Portugal used to have a colonial empire but i would guess Portuguese speaking Africans or Brazilians coming to Portugal to work anger those fascists?

Africans and Brazilians are too few to piss people off, but old people hate gypsies

Seems to be because of the same reasons that the far-right is rising in other western european countries: low salaries forcing people to emigrate, slow economic growth, very expensive real estate that keeps people living with their parents and and is a major problem to start a family

quote:

Portugal becoming a democracy in 1976 is shockingly recent if you just assume it's like every other Western European country.

The far-right is gaining momentum in countries that have been democracies since 1945 too

# ? Jan 31, 2022 16:29

Antifa Poltergeist: Jun 3, 2004; "We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"

The answer is capitalism, op, and it's inherent contradictions.

BE is kinda spent and it's going to keep be dragged down, PCP needs new leadership , chega remains to be seen if it's more than a one man party, IL ate CDS lunch but they don't have traction outside of stem liberals and people who love ayn rand.
I think niche parties are gonna be more of a thing going forward, just a cavalcade of one-two seat parties.

One of the few positives is that the troika stink is so powerful on psd side that they might actually be out of power for another decade.

# ? Jan 31, 2022 17:13

Pope Hilarius II: Nov 10, 2008

Somaen posted:

Seems to be because of the same reasons that the far-right is rising in other western european countries: low salaries forcing people to emigrate, slow economic growth, very expensive real estate that keeps people living with their parents and and is a major problem to start a family

That's not the reason; that's the excuse.

Certainly in countries that have had a strong showing of far-right parties now for 20 to 30 years, their voters know exactly what they are voting for and the centre-right has done nothing but legitimize far-right talking points to whip up political support, because outright saying "we don't give a rat's rear end about anyone who isn't already rich" is, shockingly, a political proposition that is not as popular as "we're going to hurt you but we're going to hurt the people you hate even more." Neoliberals are much more prepared to make nice with fascists because fascists don't fundamentally challenge neoliberalism. So they think they can ride the dragon until they find out the dragon has started riding them instead.

# ? Jan 31, 2022 18:30

An insane mind: Aug 11, 2018

Some of us 'enlightened' western countries are actually batshit insane and on a far worse track than so called 3rd world countries. (Or we are the loving reason those countries are third world in the first place) for example my home of the Netherlands.

We even have a monarch still...

God I hope BIJ1 can get some seats in local governments...

# ? Jan 31, 2022 19:46

Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

PCP needs new leadership

that's why im taking it from the inside, for the posters

# ? Jan 31, 2022 21:51

Antifa Poltergeist: Jun 3, 2004; "We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"

Honest Thief posted:

that's why im taking it from the inside, for the posters

Good luck, I got burned out post 2015 lol.
Hitch your ride to Paula Santos, she's going places.

# ? Jan 31, 2022 22:25

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Osmosisch posted:

Plenty of European countries have had little a dictatorship, as a treat, since ww2.

At least they tend to get kicked out every so often unlike our creepy monarchs.

Or in the case of Spain, ousting a dictatorship is an opportunity to bring back monarchy. Thank gods that fad didn't spread to the ex-communist countries.

# ? Feb 1, 2022 01:18

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

GDPR enforcer rules that IAB Europe�s consent popups are unlawful:

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In a decision of 2 February 2022, 28 EU data protection authorities, led by the Belgian Data Protection Authority as the leading supervisory authority in the GDPR�s one-stop-mechanism, found that the online advertising industry�s trade body �IAB Europe� commits multiple violations of the GDPR in its processing of personal data in the context of its �Transparency and Consent Framework� (TCF) and the realtime bidding system OpenRTB.

The consent popup system known as the �Transparency & Consent Framework� (TCF) is on 80% of the European internet. The tracking industry claimed it was a measure to comply with the GDPR. Today, GDPR enforcers ruled that this consent spam has, in fact, deprived hundreds of millions of Europeans of their fundamental rights.

The findings:

The TCF consent system infringes the GDPR in the following ways:

Fails to ensure personal data are kept secure and confidential (Article 5(1)f, and 32 GDPR)

Fails to properly request consent, and relies on a lawful basis (legitimate interest) that is not permissible because of the severe risk posed by the online advertising tracking (Article 5(1)a, and Article 6 GDPR)

Fails to provide transparency about what will happen to people�s data (Article 12, 13, and 14 GDPR)

Fails to implement measures to ensure that data processing is performed in accordance with the GDPR (Article 24 GDPR)

Fails to respect the requirement for �data protection by design� (Article 25 GDPR)

The Belgian Data Protection Authority said IAB Europe �was aware of risks linked to non-compliance� and �was negligent�. It also found that IAB Europe had failed to honour its data protection obligations to maintain records of data processing (Article 30 GDPR), to conduct a data protection impact assessment (DPIA) (Article 35 GDPR), and to appoint a Data Protection Officer (Article 37 GDPR).

Citing the TCF�s �systematic deficiencies�, the Belgian Data Protection Authority noted that it �supports a system posing great risks to the fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subjects, in particular in view of the large scale of personal data involved, the profiling activities, the prediction of behaviour, and the ensuing surveillance of data subjects.�

All data collected through the TCF must now be deleted by the more than 1,000 companies that pay IAB Europe to use the TCF. This includes Google�s, Amazon�s and Microsoft�s online advertising businesses.

These findings are the result of proceedings initiated by complainants at the Belgian Data Protection Authority, coordinated by the Irish Council for Civil Liberties. The group of complainants includes: Dr Johnny Ryan of the Irish Council for Civil Liberties, Katarzyna Szymielewicz of the Panoptykon Foundation (Poland), Stichting Bits of Freedom (the Netherlands), Ligue des Droits Humains (Belgium), Dr Jef Ausloos, and Dr Pierre Dewitte. The Belgian procedure follows complaints about the insecurity of the online advertising �Real-Time Bidding� (RTB) system that Dr Ryan initiated in 2018.

The decision was made by the Belgian Data Protection Authority in agreement with 27 other EU data protection authorities, and is immediately binding and enforceable across the European Union under the GDPR� �one stop shop� mechanism.

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BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Feb 3, 2022

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Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

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# ? Feb 3, 2022 09:04

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

There are a number of gdpr complaints about cookie popups coming up in Germany as well, hopefully they'll end up ruining the business model some more.

# ? Feb 3, 2022 12:12

Omobono: Feb 19, 2013; That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Is this referring to the popups that basically everyone uses that have "I agree to everything including selling my firstborn's soul" in 100 size font with "no" tucked somewhere in 0.001 size font white text on white background?

E: there may be some hyperbole in this post. Not as much as a sensible person would think though.

# ? Feb 3, 2022 12:57

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Yes
No (Legitimate Interest)

_{_{no to all}}

# ? Feb 3, 2022 13:00

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

# ? Feb 3, 2022 13:05

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

"We value your privacy" is, of course, them lying to your face.

If they valued your privacy, that popup would not exist.

# ? Feb 3, 2022 13:47

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

We value doing the bare minimum to avoid getting roflstomped in court within 2 quarters

# ? Feb 3, 2022 15:22

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Truga posted:

Tbh this is one of the better ones, it actually has a reject all button (just needs to be legally clarified this includes any ~legitimate interests~) and the button isn't even unreasonably inaccessible.

The really poo poo ones have an accept all button and about 35 tiny buttons you have to click to reject all.

# ? Feb 3, 2022 15:27

mortons stork: Oct 13, 2012

Some sites just straight up won't let you access them without you clicking on 'accept all' so I welcome bringing the hammer down on GDPR compliance. Surprised it took so long tbh

# ? Feb 3, 2022 15:36

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

suck my woke dick posted:

Tbh this is one of the better ones, it actually has a reject all button

check again what the gif is doing lol

# ? Feb 3, 2022 15:49

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
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suck my woke dick posted:

Tbh this is one of the better ones, it actually has a reject all button (just needs to be legally clarified this includes any ~legitimate interests~) and the button isn't even unreasonably inaccessible.

The really poo poo ones have an accept all button and about 35 tiny buttons you have to click to reject all.

When I get one of those I just go for the nuclear option:

(gif made using the Atlantic only because it was at hand)

# ? Feb 3, 2022 16:18

mortons stork: Oct 13, 2012

NihilCredo posted:

When I get one of those I just go for the nuclear option:

(gif made using the Atlantic only because it was at hand)

I didn't know ublock could do that! At least, not without breaking the page I guess.

I've been using a more brute force solution: cookie deleting extension nukes everything after I close the tab. Not very elegant and probably bad muscle memory for me to just blindly always accept all but hey, it works.
Firefox container tabs help me keep at bay the tracking metastasis from the logins that are a hassle and I'd rather keep on hand for ease of access.

# ? Feb 3, 2022 16:49

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

mortons stork posted:

I've been using a more brute force solution: cookie deleting extension nukes everything after I close the tab.

yeah i've been doing this for like 10 years now, i have like 5 websites whitelisted and everything else gets nuked

# ? Feb 3, 2022 16:57

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

NihilCredo posted:

When I get one of those I just go for the nuclear option:

(gif made using the Atlantic only because it was at hand)

mortons stork posted:

I didn't know ublock could do that! At least, not without breaking the page I guess.

I've been using a more brute force solution: cookie deleting extension nukes everything after I close the tab. Not very elegant and probably bad muscle memory for me to just blindly always accept all but hey, it works.
Firefox container tabs help me keep at bay the tracking metastasis from the logins that are a hassle and I'd rather keep on hand for ease of access.

Not only can uBlock Origin do it, there's a filterset which tries to do it universally, as long as you've got cosmetic filtering enabled.
It's also a browser extension, but I don't see how the extension can be any better than uBlock Origin filtersets - so I just added it there.

# ? Feb 3, 2022 18:20

Dawncloack: Nov 26, 2007; ECKS DEE!; Nap Ghost

So the legitimate interest is BS, I think we all agree.

But what's the industry's rationale? What do they call "legitimate"?

# ? Feb 4, 2022 19:12

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

Dawncloack posted:

So the legitimate interest is BS, I think we all agree.

But what's the industry's rationale? What do they call "legitimate"?

"What can we get away with, without someone calling our bluff?"

Turns out, someone did call their bluff.

# ? Feb 4, 2022 20:04

Doctor Malaver: May 23, 2007; Ce qui s'est pass� t'a rendu plus fort

Can't you just surf in anonymous mode?

# ? Feb 4, 2022 21:31

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

Doctor Malaver posted:

Can't you just surf in anonymous mode?

If you mean a private tab, that doesn't do a whole lot.
Even if it sets the Do-Not-Track tag (which even W3C has given up on, and isn't related to anything legislative and therefore wholly unenforcable), the additions of new browser APIs and technologies that aren't resistant to fingerprinting easily outpaces the efforts to try to figure out how to avoid fingerprinting.

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# ? May 28, 2024 23:05

Doctor Malaver: May 23, 2007; Ce qui s'est pass� t'a rendu plus fort

Next year you'll start getting Croatia-minted Euros as we enter the Eurozone. Ten months to go and we already have a scandal.

The image of the marten (a ferret-like animal) which will appear on the 1� coin was copied illegally from a Scottish photographer's web site. The "designer" who stole it was asking about basic photo editing tools on social media before submitting the design, which won in the end. Some proper designers were formally involved in the selection, but in reality their suggestions how to organize a professional process were ignored and politicians and bankers just picked a picture they liked. So Croatian contribution to European money is dilettantism (both in creating the work and in approving it) and theft, natural products of our political system.

Also, Serbian national bank protested about Nikola Tesla on the 50c coin because Tesla was an ethnic Serb. He was born in Austrian Empire, present-day Croatia, and only visited Serbia once. Still, Serbia claims him as theirs since they are the self-proclaimed guardians and heirs of all ethnic Serbs regardless of borders or historical facts. Natural products of their system - expansionism and nationalism.

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