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fez_machine posted:There's a few 90s massive Horsemen tags that have names like Larry Zbyszko, Sid or Nikita Koloff attached. Yeah but Kaientai DX ruled.
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Lid posted:Who is the wrestler of the 21st century - Hiroshi Tanahashi or Bryan Danielson We're only 21 and a bit years in, calm your tits ...probably Danielson tho lmao
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forkboy84 posted:Yeah but Kaientai DX ruled. True but I was trying to consider the question "most surprising" from an only watches WWE fans perspective because none of the 5 star matches are all that surprising unless you've only seen WWE treat a great wrestler like a complete joke and a jobber. Lid posted:Who is the wrestler of the 21st century - Hiroshi Tanahashi or Bryan Danielson Only one of these people is a once in a century talent
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I dunno...maybe the two can have a match to determine it!
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I dunno...maybe the two can have a match to determine it! It's nice that this is not only possible but kinda likely now
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Lid posted:Who is the wrestler of the 21st century - Hiroshi Tanahashi or Bryan Danielson Weird way to spell Hook, or Wardlow.
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fez_machine posted:True but I was trying to consider the question "most surprising" from an only watches WWE fans perspective because none of the 5 star matches are all that surprising unless you've only seen WWE treat a great wrestler like a complete joke and a jobber. Having a 5 star match that included Horace Hogan was pretty surprising to me. My only knowledge of that dude was him being a generic NWO mook.
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Lid posted:Who is the wrestler of the 21st century - Hiroshi Tanahashi or Bryan Danielson Tana, no doubt. Danielson is in the next tier down with people like KENTA for me
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fez_machine posted:T-bar has one for a BOLA performance against Keith Lee Donovan Dijak was really good before that gimmick killed his career ....come to think of it, how many people remember that T-BAR is Donovan Dijak?
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I mean it's kinda hard to remember anything but T BAR SLAP JACK etc.
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Defenestrategy posted:Who is the most surprising person to have a five star match, and who is the most surprising person to not have one? lars sullivan has one
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forkboy84 posted:Meiko Satomura doesn't have any *****s according to Dave but that's not a huge shock because Dave hasn't watched much joshi outwith Stardom since the 90s I definitely don't think he was using that lens because Joe vs Punk II would have never gotten over in front of a WWE crowd and the Dragon Gate Six Man was partially because it was so ahead of what mainstream American wrestling was doing.
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Defenestrategy posted:Having a 5 star match that included Horace Hogan was pretty surprising to me. My only knowledge of that dude was him being a generic NWO mook. quote:While that may have been the U.S. match of the year for 1992, it seems everyone who attended the 5/16 FMW/WWA show at Cal State-Los Angeles Gym is raving about it as the U.S. card of the year. It was compared favorably by many long-time fans as the best show for both atmosphere and workrate in many years in the Southwest, which includes two Wrestlemanias and the excellent WCW Wrestle War '91 pay-per-view show in Phoenix...
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Lid posted:Who is the wrestler of the 21st century - Hiroshi Tanahashi or Bryan Danielson Tana pulled a Bret Hart and carried a company through a dark age, setting it up for success, and then passed the torch perfectly to the guy who would take the company to a glory period. Bryan also had a lot of really good matches. Like, a lot. And he built ROH, for the most part. It’s tough. I suppose it would be “Best American” and “Best International” and they’re effectively tied. Buuuut Tana got loving stabbed by an ex girlfriend and then became a GOAT so I think the edge goes to him.
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That NXT ladder match is absolutely cursed in hindsight --Adam Cole --EC3 --Killian Dain --Lars Sullivan --Ricochet --Velveteen Dream Nearly three years later and only one guy from this match is still in the company. There are multiple guys who will probably never wrestle again.
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Sid Vicious having a 5 star match always cracks me up.
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algebra testes posted:Sid Vicious having a 5 star match always cracks me up. I know what you mean, him just having one seems very unfair.
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this is a bit hard to data juggle but I've always wondered which wrestlers got 5 stars really early in their careers and really late in their careers. there's gotta be at least one prodigy who got a 5 star in their first year, and with how long some wrestling careers are I could see someone getting a 5 star 15+ years in as well
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flatluigi posted:this is a bit hard to data juggle but I've always wondered which wrestlers got 5 stars really early in their careers and really late in their careers. there's gotta be at least one prodigy who got a 5 star in their first year, and with how long some wrestling careers are I could see someone getting a 5 star 15+ years in as well Dustin?
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KENTA Kobashi debuted in 1988, had a 5* six man tag in 1990, and had his 5* match with Samoa Joe in 2005 e: and a bit further from debut, but Misawa had his first 5* singles match in 1985 and his last in 2003 Defenestrategy posted:Who is the most surprising person to have a five star match, and who is the most surprising person to not have one? A bit late to this but John Laurinaitis has two 5* matches to his name, which is certainly surprising to people that only saw his E run SG Bamboo fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Feb 3, 2022 |
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What if you limited it to "Most Surprising to get 5* in a Singles Match?" Michael Elgin? Scott Hall?
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i thought jericho might qualify for this but he didn't have one until the omega match at wk12Price Check posted:What if you limited it to "Most Surprising to get 5* in a Singles Match?" elgin is a guy who wrestles a style dave likes and had a couple periods where he was very over with the sorta fans who care about observer star ratings. not that surprising he had a five star in that place and time as that also coincided right when dave was first starting to give them out again tho before inflation really took hold. dijak and sammy guevara stand out to me as guys i've seen plenty of who no one usually considers to be an elite in ring worker who have them, tho both came firmly in the modern era where dave's considerably freer with them. i'd put scurll in that category as well but that came in a match against a guy dave loves and who he has good chemistry with. Thauros fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Feb 3, 2022 |
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Was Sherri originally supposed to be a witch? I just saw a clip from Summerslam '89 with Gene interviewing her, Savage, and Zeus around a loving cauldron talking about how they can see the future.
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Price Check posted:What if you limited it to "Most Surprising to get 5* in a Singles Match?" Whys Scott Hall surprising? Before he switched to wcw he had some pretty fine matches. Give him someone the caliber of Michaels and not surprising to get a 5*.
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Sherri was an evil queen around the time of the Savage/Zeus stuff, which I guess translates to having a big evil witch's cauldron too
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Price Check posted:What if you limited it to "Most Surprising to get 5* in a Singles Match?" Elgin legit had incredible chemistry with Naito, and if he weren't a colossal shithead, he would likely still be a hot wrestler to this day
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I think they were throwing spaghetti at the wall around that time. Summer '89 would've been immediately before Randy became Macho King, so maybe they were setting it up early by giving him an evil Merlin and Lancelot.
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If you only ever watched the Bushwackers and not the Sheep Herders than seeing that they got a 5 star match would probably count
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Venomous posted:Elgin legit had incredible chemistry with Naito, and if he weren't a colossal shithead, he would likely still be a hot wrestler to this day yeah there was a minute there where elgin was real hot poo poo and it sucks that he's such a fuckhead
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Price Check posted:What if you limited it to "Most Surprising to get 5* in a Singles Match?" Tomoaki Honma?
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Price Check posted:What if you limited it to "Most Surprising to get 5* in a Singles Match?" Not limited to singles: Sho Funaki Singles: T-BAR (all right, Donovan Dijak) Honourable mention: I'm not too surprised that Barry Windham was in a five star match. I'm a LITTLE bit surprised he was in five of them.
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Luchasaurus will probably be an answer to this when it isn't so recent. Looking at a list of five star matches I had no idea David Starr had one so lol I guess him? For the most surprising not to have one, maybe Benoit or KENTA? GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Feb 4, 2022 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:If you only ever watched the Bushwackers and not the Sheep Herders than seeing that they got a 5 star match would probably count Yeah, from a WWE/F only fan perspective, the Bushwhackers are a lot more surprising than Kaientai. Even though they were both comedy jobbers, Kaientai, especially Taka, did some cool poo poo that if you told someone that they had awesome matches in Japan it would be believable. By the time they got to the WWF, the Bushwhackers were already old and couldn’t/weren’t booked to show any of the style that got them famous.
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pseudodragon posted:Yeah, from a WWE/F only fan perspective, the Bushwhackers are a lot more surprising than Kaientai. Even though they were both comedy jobbers, Kaientai, especially Taka, did some cool poo poo that if you told someone that they had awesome matches in Japan it would be believable. By the time they got to the WWF, the Bushwhackers were already old and couldn’t/weren’t booked to show any of the style that got them famous. Also Taka didnt start out as a Comedy Jobber either, the WWF attempted to build an entire division around him.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Luchasaurus will probably be an answer to this when it isn't so recent. Looking at a list of five star matches I had no idea David Starr had one so lol I guess him? That Starr Devlin match was before Starr was outed as a monster and it really was amazing. The build up was summarised in a brilliantly produced pre-match video, the crowd was insanely hot for "guy who sold out for NXTUK vs guy who will never sell out" which was a real simple bit satisfying storyline, and that match itself was phenomenal. I didn't do star ratings then but I almost certainly would've gone ***** on it myself. And then within 6 months Starr is outed as an absolute piece of poo poo and I have a vague sense there were allegations around Devlin but could be misremembering & it seems unlikely I'd ever actually be able to rewatch it knowing what we know now.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Luchasaurus will probably be an answer to this when it isn't so recent. Looking at a list of five star matches I had no idea David Starr had one so lol I guess him? Benoit had one against Sasuke in the Super-J Cup final tho? KENTA is surprising tho, but there's still time I guess
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Starr/Devlin might be the greatest match I never want to watch again What other matches are like that to you people? (non-Benoit answers please)
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forkboy84 posted:That Starr Devlin match was before Starr was outed as a monster and it really was amazing. The build up was summarised in a brilliantly produced pre-match video, the crowd was insanely hot for "guy who sold out for NXTUK vs guy who will never sell out" which was a real simple bit satisfying storyline, and that match itself was phenomenal. I didn't do star ratings then but I almost certainly would've gone ***** on it myself. Yeah, there were allegations of domestic abuse on Devlin's part.
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Benne posted:Tomoaki Honma? yeah, there was a point in the past decade that Honma was one of the greatest jobbers in the world. Dude had some great chemistry with Ishii. Anyway, Honma's a broken down wifebeater, so he can go gently caress himself e: Benne posted:Starr/Devlin might be the greatest match I never want to watch again coincidentally, Honma/Ishii from 14/02/15 is that to me, and not for Ishii obviously
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