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skipdogg posted:If you have another car as a backup it could be fun. When they are not broken the Alfa Quadrifoglio's are supposedly a blast, but key words are "when they are not broken". Hmm this is going to be a problem our other car is a Fiat 124 Spider Abarth and it's not leaving the garage until the salt poo poo is rinsed off the roads sometime in uh June
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they will probably give you a loaner when it's broken. i will set the over under on number of loaner days per year at 11.5
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Do they break or do they have tons of software and electronics bugs that will probably never be fixed?
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There is no look of regret quite like an Alfa owner looking at his car from the sidewalk waiting for a tow truck.
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Elephanthead posted:There is no look of regret quite like an Alfa owner looking at his car from the sidewalk waiting for a tow truck. Coupled with the dread of knowing they’ll be doing the same thing again next week.
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TheMadMilkman posted:Coupled with the dread of knowing they’ll be doing the same thing again next week. Do tow companies offer frequent
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Russian Bear posted:I'll never forgive Honda for not bringing the new hybrid Fit to the US. Definitely the lack of a solid entry for that class of car I think is a huge loving mistake, the auto loan bubble with 50k starting price bullshit is gonna end sooner than later
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I did some digging and reading and apparently the Stelvio and even the Quad are really reliable and don't have any major issues. The biggest one is on the quads they had battery issues from the owners not driving them enough. Idk the car market right now is stupid, I really want the Bronco but I miss having power, but we need this vehicle to do everything like winter duty, pulling a small utility trailer and loading up the wife's small business stuff for shows all over the place. I'll probably keep driving the boring Crosstrek until the bronco is actually built and figure it out then lol.
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LS swap the crosstrek.
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Russian Bear posted:LS swap the crosstrek. this guy knows
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BrownieVK posted:I did some digging and reading and apparently the Stelvio and even the Quad are really reliable and don't have any major issues. The biggest one is on the quads they had battery issues from the owners not driving them enough. Car and driver had a brand new one for 14 months, and it was at the dealer broken for almost 3 whole months across many separate breakdowns. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a23145269/alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-reliability-update/
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to be fair that was the Giulia which uh, shares most of its platform components with Stelvio hmm well uh they probably worked out SOME of the bugs since MY1
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maybe they were just unlucky or had recently angered a vengeful imp of some sort.
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rip big serge
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Are those Alfas the ones with brake by wire? Putting your life in the hands of Italian electronics seems unwise.
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sanchez posted:Are those Alfas the ones with brake by wire? Putting your life in the hands of Italian electronics seems unwise. brake by wire is fine
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Russian Bear posted:LS swap the crosstrek. There's a company that does 2.0FA and are working on 2.4 FA turbo swaps.... I should check into it. Blasting by people in this fruity light blue Crosstrek would be amazing.
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When I think of even moderately reliable vehicles neither Alfa or first year Fords come to mind
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Fix It Again Tony! Heh gottem
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BrownieVK posted:I did some digging and reading and apparently the Stelvio and even the Quad are really reliable and don't have any major issues. The biggest one is on the quads they had battery issues from the owners not driving them enough. I'd rather walk than drive a Stelvio again. What a horrid grip pig - straight out my go to example when questioning wether motoring journalists actually have any understanding what handling and vehicle dynamics actually are.
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I’ve had a Giulia QV for 2 months now. Don’t be such babies. Here’s the trick: They’re eligible for extended factory warranties through mopar. There are plenty of online Chrysler dealers that provide online quotes. I can extend my 2018 through 2026 for $2700. It has so much character and has been a great experience thus far. It’s my first automatic as well. I came from an E90 M3 so I have no expectation that my cars are perfectly reliable (though the M3 was quite good in that regard).
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Zoom Zoom, motherfuckers
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How are stelvio quadrifoglio's price wise? Last year I tried to find a new one near me and struck out. Wasn't sure if used examples were insane due to the market, or if people were scared of the possible repair costs and steered clear, making them not as bad.
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Franco Caution posted:How are stelvio quadrifoglio's price wise? The market still sucks but I've seen 2018-2019 ones with 20-40k miles for mid to high $50,000 range. I'm sure in the "before" times you could get one even cheaper.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:I'd rather walk than drive a Stelvio again. What a horrid grip pig - straight out my go to example when questioning wether motoring journalists actually have any understanding what handling and vehicle dynamics actually are. What was so bad about the handling? Everything I have seen about the QV trim specifically is nothing but great, it's supposed to be one of the best things about it is how sharp the handling is.
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Russian Bear posted:LS swap the crosstrek.
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I'm still kicking myself that I missed out on leasing a Giulia pre-covid when they were writing just about any deal to get them off the lot.
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What's a grip pig?
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Where do you even put the front license plate on this thing?
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the OEM bracket is offset on I think the drivers side on the bumper below the headlight
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davecrazy posted:Where do you even put the front license plate on this thing? On your dashboard in the window 
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So what does "Ferrari derived engine" mean, really when it comes to AlfaRomeo? The blocks forged in the same factory in Italy or something?
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davecrazy posted:So what does "Ferrari derived engine" mean, really when it comes to AlphaRomeo? The blocks forged in the same factory in Italy or something? It means you need to do a full engine out service every 5 years that costs as much as motorcycle.
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davecrazy posted:So what does "Ferrari derived engine" mean, really when it comes to AlphaRomeo? The blocks forged in the same factory in Italy or something? Rumor is the engine was basically entirely designed by Ferrari and the Stelvio Quad was going to be a Ferrari SUV lol no idea if this is true or not. Newer Italian stuff isn't like the old days guys.. Just ask my Moto Guzzi thats been broken since the day I got it.
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I've driven a few Alfas and Fiats over the years during trips to Italy to see family. Never had a bad experience with one and they were fun to drive but I didn't have to live with it either.
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davecrazy posted:Where do you even put the front license plate on this thing? Same place as all the other Alfas with the larger grille... 
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Someone should tell the governor of Texas that some people will pay extra to get a Euro-size license plate. That's the state with like a million custom license plate print designs, right?
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You throw it in the trash* *Offer applies only to white people
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davecrazy posted:So what does "Ferrari derived engine" mean, really when it comes to AlphaRomeo? The blocks forged in the same factory in Italy or something? IIRC, the Alfa V6 is derived from the Ferrari F154 V8 and is built somewhere in Italy. The V6 has a nearly identical bore / stroke and displacement (per cylinder) as the V8.
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davecrazy posted:So what does "Ferrari derived engine" mean, really when it comes to AlphaRomeo? The blocks forged in the same factory in Italy or something? They took the F154 BB engine from the California T (F154 BB 3.9L V8), lopped off two cylinders, and cranked the boost. The measurements and specifications between the two engines are remarkably similar. And yes, it requires engine out belt replacements every 40k miles. Enterprising mechanics have figured out how to do it with just the front bumper off. efb
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