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I just made the mistake of looking on Reddit and lol all the idiots unironically complaining about LGBTQ representation in the new series.
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BetterLekNextTime posted:I just made the mistake of looking on Reddit and lol all the idiots unironically complaining about LGBTQ representation in the new series. Is there even anything to complain about yet, like I know literally nothing about it other than these promo images and the name and so forth.
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Feb 3, 2022 18:19
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Everything in The Hobbit, LoTR, Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales is canon. If anything within those 4 items contradict something else within those 4 items a wizard did it. IMO
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Everything in The Hobbit, LoTR, Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales is canon. If anything within those 4 items contradict something else within those 4 items just flip a coin. IMO the only actual path forward here was already done with star wars. Where they have tiers of canon, and anything in a lower tier is overruled by the higher tier. adapting it to tokien's works would look like this. A Canon - Tolkien's works and writings, I'm including Christopher in here since he was working off John's writings and worked diligently not to contradict the text. B Canon - The movies and now the TV show, adaptations authorized by the Tolkien estate C Canon - Video games and TTRPG sourcebooks D Canon - the RPG campaign you wrote for your friends where all the elves have giant gazongas BetterLekNextTime posted:I just made the mistake of looking on Reddit and lol all the idiots unironically complaining about LGBTQ representation in the new series. god this will be wonderful to watch, if nothing else
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Feb 3, 2022 18:27
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WoodrowSkillson posted:
Well we already have a huge problem hahaha.
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Feb 3, 2022 18:29
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euphronius posted:Well we already have a huge problem hahaha. yeah i know, but normally those issues are pretty minor in the grand scheme of "did X thing actually happen in canon?" and any work by a human will be imperfect with contradictions
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One day someone will uncover a long lost crumpled up and faded handwritten note from Tolkien that goes “I find it frustrating how people continually misinterpret the text. I feel I was quite clear that by describing the actions of certain elves and hobbits as “gay” I meant that they were homosexual.”
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:One day someone will uncover a long lost crumpled up and faded handwritten note from Tolkien that goes “I find it frustrating how people continually misinterpret the text. I feel I was quite clear that by describing the actions of certain elves and hobbits as “gay” I meant that they were homosexual.” "And also, the balrog had big majestic wings."
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Feb 3, 2022 18:59
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I bet Sam went back and edited in the part where he rejected the Ring just to make himself seem more awesome. After my most recent re-read of LOTR I took a closer look at some of the appendices and noticed in the family tree pages that Sam had 13 loving kids, lol. He and Rosie Cotton were quite busy when he returned from his adventure.
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WarMECH posted:After my most recent re-read of LOTR I took a closer look at some of the appendices and noticed in the family tree pages that Sam had 13 loving kids, lol. He and Rosie Cotton were quite busy when he returned from his adventure. Tolkien was very Catholic.
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Mahoning posted:First actual image we’ve seen I think? This is surely the Witch-king of Angmar or at least one of the other future Ringwraiths, right?
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Feb 3, 2022 19:10
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September !!! Lol who plans that far out
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Pham Nuwen posted:This is surely the Witch-king of Angmar or at least one of the other future Ringwraiths, right? 9 rings for mortal men, doomed to die. so likely
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Feb 3, 2022 19:39
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It's clear that Middle-Earth lacks a total continuity. The puzzle that can be solved is not the fictional events of the world, but the historiography of the texts describing them.
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Feb 3, 2022 19:52
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WarMECH posted:This dude has two rings he must be extra powerful! a double nazgul!
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There's actually a whole bunch of those promo images now, fun to speculate on who is who: I'm guessing bottom right is Ar-Pharazon, top left (with flowers) is probably Galadriel. Red robe + scroll could be Elrond, and apparently some nerd noticed the top row centre (with the rope) has the same hand scar as Isildur's actor. Bottom left (with the gold dust hands) could be Annatar? Not going to get too excited just yet, as I'm assuming it will suck, but hey who knows!
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Feb 3, 2022 20:47
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webmeister posted:There's actually a whole bunch of those promo images now, fun to speculate on who is who: https://twitter.com/tengwarteacher/status/1489274930625753089?s=20&t=LUdn4Wejs-ystnfzuQp0Iw
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Those are some big fuckin acorns Also lol at the triforce E: dammit I wonder how much I could have accomplished if I hadn't spent high school making sure I'd always be able to read Tengwar on sight
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WarMECH posted:After my most recent re-read of LOTR I took a closer look at some of the appendices and noticed in the family tree pages that Sam had 13 loving kids, lol. He and Rosie Cotton were quite busy when he returned from his adventure. After they got back Sam did all the stuff. Everything. He was just fuckin and planting and organizing and Frodo just sat around moping all the time.
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Data Graham posted:E: dammit I wonder how much I could have accomplished if I hadn't spent high school making sure I'd always be able to read Tengwar on sight Yeah, but it would have come at the price of not being able to read tengwar.
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Data Graham posted:Those are some big fuckin acorns It's probably a Hobbit holding them
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Ain’t no hobbits back then.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:After they got back Sam did all the stuff. Everything. He was just fuckin and planting and organizing and Frodo just sat around moping all the time. Funny how the guy tasked with finishing the story is also a strong noble hero that could deny the power of the Ring with ease and when he got home he banged the hottest babe in Hobbiton had lots of kids and was even mayor like, forever! Totally believable, Sam! 
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WarMECH posted:Funny how the guy tasked with finishing the story is also a strong noble hero that could deny the power of the Ring with ease and when he got home he banged the hottest babe in Hobbiton had lots of kids and was even mayor like, forever! Totally believable, Sam! But how was his garden?
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WoodrowSkillson posted:It's probably a Hobbit holding them Ditto the berries, they look massive
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One of those photos gotta be Gil-Galad right? I’d say the blue cloaked fellow with the two rings.
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euphronius posted:Ain’t no hobbits back then. Well one is cast for the show, and hobbits were chilling around the gladden fields most likely
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webmeister posted:There's actually a whole bunch of those promo images now, fun to speculate on who is who: I'm guessing Ar-Pharazon is the middle image, second row from the bottom, holding the Sceptre?
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webmeister posted:There's actually a whole bunch of those promo images now, fun to speculate on who is who: I'm guessing the bottom two--gold-dusted hands and posing with a giant pick/hammer?--are dwarves. I think those are beards they have, too.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Well one is cast for the show, and hobbits were chilling around the gladden fields most likely This is awful . Hobbits in the second age ??? Canceling prime
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euphronius posted:This is awful . Hobbits in the second age ??? Maybe as part of some narrative thing and the second age storytelling is all flashback. Ooh they're editing the Red Book and having pedantic tedious arguments that they have to go ask Elrond about! It'll be like Amazing Stories with footnotes and citations!
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I just presumed Hobbits were always around, but no one really took notice of their existence or cared for their history until the War of the Ring.
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Hobbits have definitely been around for a much longer time than a few hundred years. Year 1 of the Shire Reckoning is year 1601 of the Third Age.
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Surely thousands; Frodo leaves the Shire in the year 1418 (Shire Reckoning) e: beaten like young Frodo after Maggot caught him stealing Prolonged Panorama fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Feb 4, 2022 |
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euphronius posted:That’s like saying Americans have been around for 2022 years. Can you define "the Shire Reckoning" for me?
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