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jiggerypokery posted:I've heard from someone who worked with Gove at the Department for environment that he genuinely gave a poo poo about green policy, listened and worked extremely hard to the surprise of absolutely everyone. Ill cheerfully admit that I know communist animal people who will begrudgingly argue that gove was the least bad, and you can find similar opinions from people affected by Justice dept stuff, but the horrid reality is that this is just small c conservative stuff that doesn't actually conflict with being a Tory scumbag. He's Kawczynski with the self awareness to know that you can't say poo poo like that if you want to be pm and win a general, and he looks good because he's one of very few Tory MPs that isn't purely a social arsonist. His vision of the future is still one that none of us should aspire to
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I own part of that chopper, or maybe the elephant house at Colchester zoo, they didn't specify which I hope they can tell the difference or that could get messy pretty quickly.
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Spangly A posted:He's Kawczynski with the self awareness to know that you can't say poo poo like that if you want to be pm and win a general, and he looks good because he's one of very few Tory MPs that isn't purely a social arsonist. His vision of the future is still one that none of us should aspire to 
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Guavanaut posted:It's spelled Kaczynski I can never remember his loving name without checking because my brain goes "don't be stupid, that's the guy best known for other works". id also just like to say I cant believe the trots are taking down the uk government and professor furedi is sitting not two miles from me, looking at his phone, laughing
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Yes, the social arsonist with similar long term environmental views to Michael Gove.
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Night of the Wrong WivesSpangly A posted:id also just like to say I cant believe the trots are taking down the uk government and professor furedi is sitting not two miles from me, looking at his phone, laughing Like not just stupid poo poo like Spiked On Line but actual good things like BPAS getting emergency contraception/termination by telemedicine legalized for the pandemic or Sense About Science opposing some of the worse woo.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60206564 Stop asking to be able to afford things you shits. It's pushing prices up.
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I absolutely hate that half the press is going to continue to pretend that this has anything to do with the savile comment, which if anything has hurt Starmer rather than Boris, and they can’t claim it’s been damaging to the Prime Minister’s reputation given *gestures at everything else*
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Guavanaut posted:Night of the Wrong Wives I don't know but if they keep it up I'm going to kidnap Frank and beat the answers out of him. Guy's overtaking Farage if he keeps this up
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What was the deal with Starmer and Saville? He apologised for it when it all came out and was head of CPS then but was he or not at the time they decided to not prosecute? I have failed to find out from googling cause his Wikipedia glosses over the period and everything else is just outrage articles that are fact free
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Communist Thoughts posted:What was the deal with Starmer and Saville? He apologised for it when it all came out and was head of CPS then but was he or not at the time they decided to not prosecute? Yes, he was dpp/head of CPS from 2008 to 2013, the saville decision in question was made by a prosecutor in 2009. One of starmers last acts was to reform prosecution of historic sex abuse cases, giving more weight to victim testimony, because he accepted that the saville decision was unacceptable. So yeah it was completely on him but it wasn't a decision he personally made. Many decisions he personally made, including over de menezes really early on, were terrible, but terrible in ways Tories think are great. It works because lifelong saville loving Tories will say "hah, nonce" and never question it, and people not very sympathetic to Tory attack lines can fact check to find out he's a poo poo for entirely different reasons.
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On the Energy price increase stuff. Am i right in understanding that basically the best course of action just now is to stay on the variable rate because even the new price cap is lower than the cheapest 12-month fixed rate? The gamble essentially being that when the price cap rises again later this year it doesn't rise by an absolutely stupid amount that exceeds the current silly high fixed prices? I'm with Octopus and let it default to the variable rate back in December because the fixed price was double what I was paying and I followed the advice to not fix at that rate. My "loyal" customer package is now sitting at 4x that if I want to switch to it (£200 a month) so kinda feel like if i'd fixed back then i'd have at least saved a little bit.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Where it gets *really* weird is... it made this exact trip, at exactly the same time (well within 2 minutes), last night as well. Training flight?
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When it comes to Gove, try to ignore his tenure at Environment where apparently he was ok, and look instead at his time at Education where he was a disaster of historic proportions, the effects of which are still being felt today by my kids and hundreds of thousands of others.
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Endjinneer posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60206564
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Kin posted:Am i right in understanding that basically the best course of action just now is to stay on the variable rate because even the new price cap is lower than the cheapest 12-month fixed rate? I'm with Shell so I fully expect they'll use their obscene profits to subsidise a competitive rate for ahahahahahahahahahahah
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Bobby Deluxe posted:
Weird synchronicity, I recently finished reading 84k, an unbelievably dystopian post-Brexit Britain thriller with the Tories in full swing as they only wish they could actually do. Depressing but unsurprising, if it pops up on a Kindle deal anytime again it's worth a look. https://www.amazon.co.uk/84K-eerily-plausible-dystopian-masterpiece-ebook/dp/B076PBVSWV/ Paying an 84k bill in the book is what hitmen do, it's the fine for murdering a regular, non-rich citizen
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Kin posted:On the Energy price increase stuff. Basically yeah. Keep an eye on moneysavingexpert in the future and they'll tell you the best course of action but looks like it's going to be a bloodbath for the next 6 months at least.
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https://twitter.com/UKIP/status/1487502292202962950 the byelection to replace Amess was held today, given the circumstances no-one fielded a candidate against the Tories apart from UKIP, who have duly come in 4th, behind Spoilt Ballots and 'Jason Pilley of the Psychedelic Movement'.
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Hate to admit it: they're playing a blinder with this Savile stuff. There can't be a person in the country who hasn't heard about the connection between Starmer & Savile now. I'd never heard of it before. And apologies in the format of "I apologise for saying my opponent is a MASSIVE NONCE, even though there are mountains of evidence that you should look into yourselves, it's true that he was never actually found guilty.". It's Cameron & the pig again. And that's yet another reason why Starters got to go.
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Mourning Due posted:Hate to admit it: they're playing a blinder with this Savile stuff. It's amazing that Kieths defence is just "my 'I am not a nonce protector' shirt is raising a lot of questions already answered by my shirt"
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Apraxin posted:https://twitter.com/UKIP/status/1487502292202962950 I'm very interested to see the breakdown of the spoilt ballots, when it's delivered. It's unusual to even have 50 spoilt ballots; for there to be almost 1,100 of them - enough for them to retain their deposit and more than any losing candidate - is extremely unusual.
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Jedit posted:I'm very interested to see the breakdown of the spoilt ballots, when it's delivered. It's unusual to even have 50 spoilt ballots; for there to be almost 1,100 of them - enough for them to retain their deposit and more than any losing candidate - is extremely unusual. Well it was a very unusual by-election. there was no one running to the left of the Tories given the circumstances. I guess at least a 1100 people who would normally vote lab lib or green wanted to show they were engaged politically but didn't like any of the choices.
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Luke Pollard was posting about returning to the shadow front bench which led me to look up who the outgoing MP was, and it was Kinnock. I hoped he'd been kicked out or resigned in shame or something but no, turns out he's now shadow immigration minister https://twitter.com/Obscurantistx/status/1489320700435439620?t=oMwJGsL57Lb_eC9tGphojg&s=09
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Well it was a very unusual by-election. there was no one running to the left of the Tories given the circumstances. I guess at least a 1100 people who would normally vote lab lib or green wanted to show they were engaged politically but didn't like any of the choices. Put it this way: there are reports that two people wrote messages demanding that Boris resign. If it's all Lib Dems using their franchise to send a message, why report on the two? And if it's more than two, why say it was only two? Normally spoilt ballots break down into six categories: no official stamp, no mark, more than one mark, voter's intent cannot be deciphered, voter can be identified, and message sent to a candidate. I want to know how many of the 1100 fell into the last category.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60206564 Don't ask for a big pay rise, warns Bank of England boss I love that this man has the audacity, the gall and the gumpton with a salary of £500,000 to let that come out of his mouth. Clown. This country is a nightmare.
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