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mkvltra
Nov 1, 2020

Seth Pecksniff posted:

Loudon is the one that broke for Youngkin and basically killed it for McAuliffe, and I'm not sure it helped that there was "trans panic" earlier that summer too with the school board. It was just a perfect storm of poo poo

Did not know that! I have kind of blocked out any news about my hometown for the past couple years. Loudoun would be there one that would lean red, though, so I guess that makes sense? I'm just going off of the kind of person that works in that county and the dominant industry there.

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CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I like the part of 95 outside of Baltimore where they built a toll road in the middle of regular 95. So you're sitting in gridlock on the potholed highway for poors looking over at the rich man's expressway which is beautiful and traffic free
These are going up all over the place. I-77 near Charlotte has those lanes.

They are euphemistically called "Public Private Partnerships" which is a way to say public funds will be captured by private entities. Which is already bullshit because private companies are contracted to build the new roads so there's already a public private partnership, but that contractor just gets paid once while the toll operator gets paid constantly.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





haljordan posted:

How many payday loan joints are in the immediate area lol

Even more than you are imagining. When I lived there, which was some time ago, a few blocks down from my house was a payday loan place that had purchased a very distinctive fast food building, maybe an old mcdonalds or some such, and just repainted it, and I always remembered it looked very funny. But they were very common.

My favorite military base adjacent store is all the way on the other side of the country, right outside Ft. Lewis. Every time I drive by there, for the last 20 years, there is a sign for "$1 Chinese Food". I have never been brave enough to stop in and try it.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






IncredibleIgloo posted:

Even more than you are imagining. When I lived there, which was some time ago, a few blocks down from my house was a payday loan place that had purchased a very distinctive fast food building, maybe an old mcdonalds or some such, and just repainted it, and I always remembered it looked very funny. But they were very common.

My favorite military base adjacent store is all the way on the other side of the country, right outside Ft. Lewis. Every time I drive by there, for the last 20 years, there is a sign for "$1 Chinese Food". I have never been brave enough to stop in and try it.

I am extremely baffled by payday loan joints being near military bases because the whole point of joining the military is that they literally give you everything you need

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Yeah, but you want to buy other poo poo and the good drugs.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






goatface posted:

Yeah, but you want to buy other poo poo and the good drugs.

True, drugs are awesome...

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

haljordan posted:

I am extremely baffled by payday loan joints being near military bases because the whole point of joining the military is that they literally give you everything you need

there's a reason there's an old joke about the E-1 proposing to the stripper the second time they see her

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






haljordan posted:

I am extremely baffled by payday loan joints being near military bases because the whole point of joining the military is that they literally give you everything you need

oh except body armor apparently

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





haljordan posted:

I am extremely baffled by payday loan joints being near military bases because the whole point of joining the military is that they literally give you everything you need

The military provides these things to those people precisely because they are so bad with money. So these payday loan places have the highest concentrated market of marks imaginable. People very rarely get fired from the military as well, and the military can and will garnish wages, so it is a perfect opportunity for them.

Also, even though they "provide everything you need" it is not necessarily all that good. For many sailors that provision means they can live on the boat, just like when they are underway, and can eat the food provided on the ship. So those folks tend to eat out a lot because they cannot make their own food and don't want to eat boat food, and there are a lot of poor fiscal decisions people can take or even need to take because they are living on the boat. Storage units are another one. The classic military misspending adventure is paying sticker price for a loving new ford mustang that you cannot afford.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






IncredibleIgloo posted:

The military provides these things to those people precisely because they are so bad with money. So these payday loan places have the highest concentrated market of marks imaginable. People very rarely get fired from the military as well, and the military can and will garnish wages, so it is a perfect opportunity for them.

Also, even though they "provide everything you need" it is not necessarily all that good. For many sailors that provision means they can live on the boat, just like when they are underway, and can eat the food provided on the ship. So those folks tend to eat out a lot because they cannot make their own food and don't want to eat boat food, and there are a lot of poor fiscal decisions people can take or even need to take because they are living on the boat. Storage units are another one. The classic military misspending adventure is paying sticker price for a loving new ford mustang that you cannot afford.

lmao yes i have heard more than one story about 19 year olds with no credit history financing a car at like, an 18% interest rate

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Let me amend to my previous statement: The military works in such a fashion as to provide the bare essentials the service members need to survive and fulfill their obligations to the military while making the service member as dependant as possible on the military so that they do not leave voluntarily.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

mkvltra posted:

Northern VA (Loudoun, Reston, Tysons / Mclean) is insanely blue and people there make a gently caressload of money. Also employed by the military industrial complex.

Loudoun went 55% McAuliffe, Fairfax County was the only place that went much better for him at 65%. They're not "insanely" blue, they're kinda-sorta blue areas with a lot of extremely insane defense contractors surrounded by a sea of The Confederacy. They might own NPR totebags and sneer at the Trump bumpkins down south but when I talk to rich fucks in Arlington their going concerns are still taxes, avoiding becoming "like Maryland", and woke schools teaching white kids to hate themselves. Just cause Obama won there doesn't mean Virginia stopped being Virginia.

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Feb 4, 2022

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






IncredibleIgloo posted:

Let me amend to my previous statement: The military works in such a fashion as to provide the bare essentials the service members need to survive and fulfill their obligations to the military while making the service member as dependant as possible on the military so that they do not leave voluntarily.

yeah it's predatory as gently caress and i don't blame some kid for falling for the pitch, i remember what an otherwordly dumbass i was at age 17/18

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

haljordan posted:

lmao yes i have heard more than one story about 19 year olds with no credit history financing a car at like, an 18% interest rate

Lol I know someone who did this exact thing immediately upon joining and it wasn’t even a good mustang, it was a V6 automatic

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!
Putting our soldiers in forever debt because it pairs nicely with forever war

mkvltra
Nov 1, 2020

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Loudoun went 55% McAuliffe, Fairfax County was the only place that went much better for him at 65%. They're not "insanely" blue, they're kinda-sorta blue areas with a lot of extremely insane defense contractors surrounded by a sea of The Confederacy. They might own NPR totebags and sneer at the Trump bumpkins down south but when I talk to rich fucks in Arlington their going concerns are still taxes, avoiding becoming "like Maryland", and woke schools teaching white kids to hate themselves. Just cause Obama won there doesn't mean Virginia stopped being Virginia.

I lived in Reston for more than half of my life. It's insanely blue.

You're right about Virginia staying Virginia, though. I went to school in Richmond and learned how to weld in Charlottesville...

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner
https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/...%5Es1_&ref_url=

gently caress the police.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





I will say that after a decade in the Navy, which I absolutely hated, it worked out really well for me in terms of employment after the fact. Like I am blessed to be financially stable and doing well now. I don't think people should have to give up a decade of their life and support nebulous, at best, foreign policy to achieve this stability though. Many veterans scoff at student loan forgiveness because they received the GI Bill or had their loans forgiven through military student loan forgiveness programs, and say "Anyone else could do that if they really wanted", but I really don't think military service should be expected if you want to receive a higher education.

Shishkahuben
Mar 5, 2009






I know that it's probably just companies doing damage control by backing the less inflammatory candidates as they try to get the toothpaste back in the tube, but I like to imagine that the turbochuds are a very loud political base that's virtually worthless as a fundraising source because all their money goes to unhelpful things, like TRUMP 2024 flags, maga hats, and recurring donations to Trump's black hole offshore bank accounts.

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner
Majority of Canadians disagree with ‘freedom convoy’ on vaccine mandates and lockdowns


https://theconversation.com/majority-of-canadians-disagree-with-freedom-convoy-on-vaccine-mandates-and-lockdowns-176323

The arrival of the self-styled “freedom convoy” in Ottawa this week has dominated headlines, but do the demonstrators represent the views of most Canadians? When it comes to their stark opposition to government-imposed restrictions and vaccine mandates, research shows the protesters clearly represent a minority view — no matter how vocal they are.

Most Canadians support government measures to help control the spread of COVID-19, according to our ongoing public opinion study. Known as the COVID-19 Monitor, the study of Canadians’ attitudes relating to the COVID-19 pandemic and public policy interventions has been running since shortly after the first COVID-19-related government restrictions were introduced in March 2020. It has amassed more than 100,000 respondents, making it one of the largest continuing studies of Canadian attitudes toward the pandemic.

The study is a partnership between McMaster University’s Digital Society Lab and Vox Pop Labs, a social enterprise that conducts public opinion research polling. We hold positions with both organizations.

Our findings indicate that a majority of Canadians support most of the measures that have been employed by federal and provincial governments aimed at preventing the transmission of COVID-19. In most cases support has remained relatively stable since the beginning of the pandemic.

Although they are widely attributed as the catalyst for the trucker rally, vaccine mandates actually enjoy high levels of support among Canadians. Survey data shows approximately four out of five Canadians agree that health- and long-term care workers should be required to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Roughly three-quarters of Canadians think that vaccines should be mandatory for government workers and politicians.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
If I remember correctly, the racialized frightener for NOVA white people is PG County, Maryland. They talk about it like it's Kibera but worse.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

CannonFodder posted:

These are going up all over the place. I-77 near Charlotte has those lanes.

They are euphemistically called "Public Private Partnerships" which is a way to say public funds will be captured by private entities. Which is already bullshit because private companies are contracted to build the new roads so there's already a public private partnership, but that contractor just gets paid once while the toll operator gets paid constantly.

The 91 in Southern California has these.

https://www.foxla.com/news/91-express-lanes-questions-surrounding-where-860m-in-fees-penalties-from-toll-lanes-are-going

tl;dr - the vast majority of the toll money appears to have gone elsewhere, including free money for the police.

If you've even driven on the 91, large sections of it feel like driving down the railroad tracks.

mkvltra
Nov 1, 2020

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

If I remember correctly, the racialized frightener for NOVA white people is PG County, Maryland. They talk about it like it's Kibera but worse.

*nods knowingly, solemnly*

But like the opposite of Kibera in terms of socioeconomic status. PG County is to Maryland as Great Falls is to Virginia?

NOVA is pretty dang diverse, also.

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner
https://twitter.com/_llebrun/status...%5Es1_&ref_url=
https://twitter.com/journo_dale/sta...%5Es1_&ref_url=

I would say the worse police but that would suggest they actually do their jobs albeit terribly, these cops are not even doing that.

Shishkahuben
Mar 5, 2009






Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Stare-Out posted:

Oh, I'm Finnish, so I know most of that already but I was thinking of the worst when it comes to these morons but I was still hoping they wouldn't equate confederate flags with freedom like other morons do. As dumb as this whole protest is, it's still nice to know there are no nazi symbols flying around.

You know, my wife and I sometimes question where we live because there seems to be a decent amount of anti vaxx assholes in our neighborhood (fairly chuddy suburb in deep blue state) but it's very reassuring to know these brain geniuses are showing up in Canada and Finland, meaning we don't really have to stress about moving away from these people because they are everywhere.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋




My favorite thing is the perpetual FOX NEWS ALERT banner.

ALERT ALERT ALERT
SUN ROSE THIS MORNING
ALERT ALERT ALERT
DEMOCRATS BAD

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

IncredibleIgloo posted:

I will say that after a decade in the Navy, which I absolutely hated, it worked out really well for me in terms of employment after the fact. Like I am blessed to be financially stable and doing well now. I don't think people should have to give up a decade of their life and support nebulous, at best, foreign policy to achieve this stability though. Many veterans scoff at student loan forgiveness because they received the GI Bill or had their loans forgiven through military student loan forgiveness programs, and say "Anyone else could do that if they really wanted", but I really don't think military service should be expected if you want to receive a higher education.

I wish there was a "Peace Corps" type thing where people could work in their own communities and do civic work, and earn enough to live on.

Instead we have capitalism, and tent cities.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1489689784654176256

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Data Graham posted:

My favorite thing is the perpetual FOX NEWS ALERT banner.

ALERT ALERT ALERT
SUN ROSE THIS MORNING
ALERT ALERT ALERT
DEMOCRATS BAD

That's how you get old scared white people to tune in all day. NEWS ALERT sounds scary and important, like a TORNADO WARNING or HURRICANE WATCH. It's amazing how easy it is to play those people like a fiddle.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



A Wizard of Goatse posted:

do you live in virginia and/or know anyone who actually voted for the guy

Yes to both. I live in a blue area that's surrounded by deep red chuddery.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

You know, my wife and I sometimes question where we live because there seems to be a decent amount of anti vaxx assholes in our neighborhood (fairly chuddy suburb in deep blue state) but it's very reassuring to know these brain geniuses are showing up in Canada and Finland, meaning we don't really have to stress about moving away from these people because they are everywhere.

They are here, but - and not to get all rah rah rah about my country - they're probably far more rare here than they are there. Hell, the cops have even arrested some of the more unruly convoy protesters tonight. Chuds are global but there are still places where the majority of people think they're obnoxious, ignorant assholes. That said, it'll definitely get worse.

Jelly
Feb 11, 2004

Ask me about my STD collection!
Toll lanes are the most egregious form of wealth tax.

Adding them here in Seattle on I-405 crippled traffic and had people with long commutes (i.e. the poorest people) paying up to $20/day. I think it's more now. The busier traffic is, the higher the toll went, and most days it just ran at a steadily increasing "max".

Traffic was unpleasant but manageable prior - nice if you carpooled, after they made the switch it wasn't uncommon to have a 1.5 hour commute from Kirkland to Lynnwood (17 miles), daily, unless you paid the toll.

On top of all that, none of the income goes to bettering the city. The whole system is run by some third party in Texas or something. I was never able to track how this benefited a single person in Washington State.

"GoodtoGo!" my loving rear end.

Jelly fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Feb 4, 2022

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

CannonFodder posted:

These are going up all over the place. I-77 near Charlotte has those lanes.

They are euphemistically called "Public Private Partnerships" which is a way to say public funds will be captured by private entities. Which is already bullshit because private companies are contracted to build the new roads so there's already a public private partnership, but that contractor just gets paid once while the toll operator gets paid constantly.

They're still free for HOV 3+ and it's one great reason to take the family for a little drive uptown when we get our special lanes away from the unwashed masses.

YeahWhatevah
Oct 28, 2013
Speaking of shady financial practices, got a pre-authorized junk mail offer for a line of credit for $2000! (Used a whole lotta exclamation points so you know it's gotta be good...)

On the back in fine print the APR is finally discussed: 249%

Jezuz gently caress, how is that even legal?

I am sincerely interested if they got any presidential pudding brains to bite.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

:basta:

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

haljordan posted:

yeah it's predatory as gently caress and i don't blame some kid for falling for the pitch, i remember what an otherwordly dumbass i was at age 17/18

Even more predatory than that is JROTC. Let's get these kids at 15, 16 years old and have them learn how to be cannon fodder while they're in high school. Just teaching kids marching orders before they've even been in pre-calculus. Not a way of grooming at all, no sir.

Jelly
Feb 11, 2004

Ask me about my STD collection!

YeahWhatevah posted:

I am sincerely interested if they got any presidential pudding brains to bite.
It only takes a few, and they definitely do. This is how a lot of these mobile games work these days. They are essentially the natural evolution of scam mail.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).






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marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos

YeahWhatevah posted:

Speaking of shady financial practices, got a pre-authorized junk mail offer for a line of credit for $2000! (Used a whole lotta exclamation points so you know it's gotta be good...)

On the back in fine print the APR is finally discussed: 249%

Jezuz gently caress, how is that even legal?

I am sincerely interested if they got any presidential pudding brains to bite.

Probably a tribal loan.

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