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SyntheticPolygon posted:Like genuinely totally a failure if this website was doing a selection of fanfiction for "an explanation of fandom" or something and didn't put a touhou doujin in there.
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Endorph posted:i Okay if I'm getting the concept of fanfiction explained to me then I spectacularly failed to explain my point. I think- not that I know for sure- that if you're going to talk about fanfiction in a way that shows that you don't care you'd pick the porn as a cheap way to point and laugh at it. Like even though the internet was flooded with people being egregiously horny over Lady Dimitrescu I don't think a majority of people would be self aware enough to remember that if they read the phrase 'Resident Evil porn' on a newsite. SyntheticPolygon posted:Touhou doujins. Hey, now that's an example I can sink my teeth into! I never got into bullet hells myself but I know vaguely enough about how vast the library of fan material is to know that people are making levels, music and stories on that franchise. Not to mention the games in entirely different genres too. Because I still think of Fanfiction.net instead of Ao3 I keep thinking of fanfiction as just written stories instead of manga and music and all of the other stuff I should include. RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Feb 5, 2022 |
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Tbf even just with fanfiction touhou fanfiction is very extensive and encompasses a lot of genres and moods.
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roobots posted:I used to be an avid Waypoint listener but between the Red Strings Club stuff and their Eva deep dive, I got tired of them being so into their own opinions that they consistently refuse to change their mind or re-evaluate when faced with better understanding and/for facts. The Eva podcast is wild because, for a bunch of people who have careers that require critical analysis, they consistently ignore obvious things for their own projected opinions. Throughout the whole thing they consider stuff through a very North American/Western lens and don't even attempt to understand that the meaning or symbolism might be different because it is a Japanese work. I don't remember the exact example but they had some wild thoughts about Japanese bath sharing and went on and on about Anno slut shaming Misato because of her interiority scenes in the last episodes of the TV series.
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Patware posted:let's make We Hate Movies watch more anime Have they watched any anime? They're the best media review podcast imo, so I agree
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Far as non-anime podcasts talking anime go, I quite enjoyed it when Blank Check covered all of Miyazaki's movies. The lads were funny and observant as always. Hoping they return to the anime zone someday (Which will probably involve covering either Kon or Shinkai, given the premise of their show) but I'm in no hurry since right now they're covering Jane Campion's movies and it's great.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Like genuinely totally a failure if this website was doing a selection of fanfiction for "an explanation of fandom" or something and didn't put a touhou doujin in there. I think the 9S fic was also a part of their GOTY coverage, so Touhou would have been weird.
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Waffleman_ posted:I think the 9S fic was also a part of their GOTY coverage, so Touhou would have been weird.
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Ask yourself if you trust a mainstream outlet with Touhou though
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Stairmaster posted:Mori is the spirit of anime club made manifest the only good/correct vtuber post in this thread so far
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Waffleman_ posted:Ask yourself if you trust a mainstream outlet with Touhou though EA Sports. Touhous in the game!
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Undertale I hear has some good fanfiction.
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Mildly inconvenienced i can’t search just the eng dub stuff on Crunchyroll. I usually prefer dubs for slice of life/romance/comedies
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Endorph posted:you can absolutely find a touhou fangame that deserves goty dont even necessarily have to go with fangame lol 
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considering their impetus to do just the fanworks and such was "we wanna do goty in a more organic way and not have the convo dominated by the big aaa releases that got advertising budgets", that seems like the perfect opportunity to cover these smaller games even if youre the only person on staff who likes them. of course, even back then i would not have trusted them that highly, and i was proven more right than i could possibly have imagined. the whole thing seemed like an exercise in looking really smart without having to do any thinking lmao
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marumaru posted:the only good/correct vtuber post in this thread so far why are you so perennially angry about streamers but with an anime avatar
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DoubleDonut posted:why are you so perennially angry about streamers but with an anime avatar
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Endorph posted:theyve made like 4-5 posts lightly making fun of them I think if you feel the need to post "this sucks, stop posting it" every time someone brings up something you don't like over multiple threads, you're perennially angry
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well she did kill everyone with an axe
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DoubleDonut posted:I think if you feel the need to post "this sucks, stop posting it" every time someone brings up something you don't like over multiple threads, you're perennially angry The vtuber people got a containment thread for a reason.
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Nate RFB posted:My favorite thing in this vein was Austin Walker on I believe the Great Gundam Project saying in the wake of Miura passing that "I like Berserk too much to go on a podcast to talk about how problematic it is" which felt extremely indicative of the only way their brains seem wired for critique. It's unfortunate because this is ideally what Waypoint claims to be built for; nuanced critique of work. The scene could really use someone talking about Berserk (and works like it) with the ability to acknowledge the value that still exists in plenty of problematic works. Instead we get people either saying that you're a bad person/supporting sexual assault if you like Berserk or memeing the Festival and saying gross poo poo about Casca. There are few places to go for a good middle ground out there.
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Waypoint occasionally is valuable as like, the only people who will talk about certain perspectives that games media just refuses to touch, but part of my disconnect from that site was that often that they would put out an article criticizing a game I had literally never heard of before for problematic gameplay elements or whatnot. It's fine to get people to think about that stuff, but when that's the only meaningful coverage of the game I can find it just kind of makes me feel bad for the developers.
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categorizing a work as 'problematic' as some inherent quality to it is itself extremely stupid. the problem with the 'there can still be value in problematic works' or 'you can still like something problematic' is that it assumes some objective standard for what is and isnt 'problematic'. It's the illusion of openmindedness when in reality its just another way to shut down conversation. 'This is problematic,' 'i dont think it is,' 'no, you're still allowed to like it! God, don't you know you can Like Problematic Works?' 'but i dont think it's problematic' 'ugh, some people just dont understand this isnt a criticism of them as a person' Endorph fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Feb 5, 2022 |
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casting aspersions on media from the outset but then going "no but even then this one is good" is like the exact same tier of posting gbs people do about dbz so it is in fact not thoughtful or mindful or intelligent.
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It's the same thing as I'd see a lot in like the 2000s where people would say that Ghibli movies don't actually count as anime, because they were good.
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surf rock posted:- I've already forgotten what Nyoro~n Churuya-san was Smoked cheese and google. Waffleman_ posted:It's the same thing as I'd see a lot in like the 2000s where people would say that Ghibli movies don't actually count as anime, because they were good. Also Persona 4.
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Waffleman_ posted:It's the same thing as I'd see a lot in like the 2000s where people would say that Ghibli movies don't actually count as anime, because they were good. Oh wow, flashbacks from 20 years ago just came flooding through
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haruhi granted kyon the ability to see all the exciting stuff she can never experience, because she loves him. begone haruhi heretics
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Today we have progressed to "Arcane counts as anime because it's good"
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Shinjobi posted:Oh wow, flashbacks from 20 years ago just came flooding through Spirited Away isn't anime because it won an Oscar
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Waffleman_ posted:It's the same thing as I'd see a lot in like the 2000s where people would say that Ghibli movies don't actually count as anime, because they were good. PYF obviously anime-themed media that people are desperate to not call anime for some reason Ghibil movies Dark Souls Phoenix Wright Persona 4 The Animatrix probably
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Today we have progressed to "Arcane counts as anime because it's good" I'll allow it.
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I will never watch the awful league show, no matter how well animated it is.
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the other ones i kinda get but persona 4's writing is like 90% played-out anime tropes
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Persona 4 sort of came out at a time when video games that sold you the experience of having friends weren't super common yet*, and also it had a pretty big marketing push and was right on the heels of a e: *at least in the western console scene. I think it was more common on PC and in Japan cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Feb 5, 2022 |
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