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ThomasPaine posted:Say what you like about Ricky Gervais but if you think the office was bad you're insane It does suffer a bit from Seinfeld Syndrome, in that if you only started watching sitcoms in a post-Office world it all seems horribly dated and derivative, but that's because (for good or ill) everyone that came after it pretty much had to copy it.
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the office and father ted were good comedies for their day but their success caused a co-writer of each to get a bit too carried away with themselves imo
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Feb 5, 2022 20:38
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ThomasPaine posted:Say what you like about Ricky Gervais but if you think the office was bad you're insane It was overrated at the time, but it was a solid show. There's just always a rush when a performer outs themself as a poo poo to retroactively declare that anything they ever touched was poo poo.
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Feb 5, 2022 20:39
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If I want to watch someone be extremely cringey I can just go outside and speak and experience it firsthand.
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Feb 5, 2022 20:40
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I still watch Seinfeld on Netflix and most of it still holds up. Never liked The Office the first time round though, and people kept saying you just need to keep at it and then it becomes enjoyable, I guess like toxoplasmosis or huffing leaded petrol.
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Feb 5, 2022 20:43
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I do like that Gervais is such an insecure little whiner that when a single journalist happened to write that he thought that dinnerladies was better than The Office that the entire second series of Extras is taking the piss out of a terrible straw man of dinnerladies.
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Feb 5, 2022 20:46
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I do like that Gervais is such an insecure little whiner that when a single journalist happened to write that he thought that dinnerladies was better than The Office that the entire second series of Extras is taking the piss out of a terrible straw man of dinnerladies. Lol christ is that why that happened? Yeah that's really on type for him.
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Feb 5, 2022 20:52
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Guavanaut posted:I still watch Seinfeld on Netflix and most of it still holds up. Never liked The Office the first time round though, and people kept saying you just need to keep at it and then it becomes enjoyable, I guess like toxoplasmosis or huffing leaded petrol. I just finished a full nine season run of Seinfeld, never seen it before, and it does hold up pretty well. It feels more savvy with its characters than Friends, it recognised right off the bat that Jerry and Elaine shouldn't be paired up, while Friends kept that tedious schtick up for ten whole seasons. Even Kramer stayed pretty consistent when they could have had him literally jump the shark.
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Feb 5, 2022 21:10
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Friends was a weird one for me. It used to be THE thing to watch, living in a student flat of 8 at the time, and all of us would come down and watch the newest episode religiously. Then a few seasons in something in the brain when ping and just saw it as the same five jokes over and over and over and over again. Hated it since as with most US sitcoms from that time. If I ever go on an on the spur killer rampage, it will be just after watching Everyone Loves Raymond.
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Feb 5, 2022 21:30
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I'm sure people are old enough to remember The 11 O'Clock Show on C4, where Gervais would come on for 5 mins every now and then, essentially doing a more arrogant prick version of his Office part, and consistently go down like a lead balloon with the live audience and presenters. So my response when everyone (lol) in the office said 'Awwww did you watch The Office?!! It's amazing!' and I find out it's him, I did not. I have seen most of it later, but not because of him. Plus he drags down every single film he cameos in, gently caress watching something that he's the lead in. But apparently at my local I'm in the wrong because After Life is genius. it may well be, I'm never watching it.
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Feb 5, 2022 21:30
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I liked the US office but not the UK one and I'm not sure Ricky Gervais is capable of playing anyone other than his actual self.
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Feb 5, 2022 21:35
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https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1489954135491416065 Hmm, gonna need to see today's newspaper in this video before I believe it.
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Feb 5, 2022 21:39
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I do like that Gervais is such an insecure little whiner that when a single journalist happened to write that he thought that dinnerladies was better than The Office that the entire second series of Extras is taking the piss out of a terrible straw man of dinnerladies.
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Feb 5, 2022 21:49
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I hate Gervais. The only thing he’s decent in is Muppets Most Wanted, where he stretched his acting abilities to play a prick.
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My new manager is 1) 24 years old and 2) adores After Life. I had to be very diplomatic about my Gervais opinions. Got an interview for a new job in a couple of weeks! Unrelated to her, though, she's all right, she just has strange taste. When I mentioned Meat Loaf died she said 'Is that a person?' in honest bewilderment. fuckin infant baby
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Feb 5, 2022 21:55
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1489954135491416065 Why is her cake wonky? Also that looks like the saddest party ever.
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Feb 5, 2022 22:10
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It's no BoJo party, that's for sure.
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Feb 5, 2022 22:13
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ThomasPaine posted:Say what you like about Ricky Gervais but if you think the office was bad you're insane The Office is an observational comedy, but while the accuracy of the observation can't be faulted, what it's observing just isn't amusing. I don't know a single person who liked it.
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Feb 5, 2022 22:21
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Every public figure I have ever had a crush on is a monster, even the ones I previously thought were good or at least just neutral, lol https://twitter.com/VictoriaCoren/status/1490042865099190273?s=19
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Condolences on your parahybristophilia.
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I loved the office and still think it’s great. At the time I thought Gervais was playing a character fantastically. And now I realise it’s the only one he can play, and it’s an exaggeration of himself. Merchant is great, and I suspect was the real brains.
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Feb 5, 2022 22:46
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Jedit posted:The Office is an observational comedy, but while the accuracy of the observation can't be faulted, what it's observing just isn't amusing. I don't know a single person who liked it. it's a show about a group of horrible people being horrible to each other, I get enough of that in real life without having it take up my leisure time as well
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Feb 5, 2022 22:48
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ThomasPaine posted:Every public figure I have ever had a crush on is a monster, even the ones I previously thought were good or at least just neutral, lol It's almost like money and fame insulate you from the rest of the world, give you a skewed perspective on others and lead you to being a terrible person. Not to mention the general level of inherent narcissism generally required to seek out a life in the spotlight. Course there are good eggs but the system is very much weighted against them.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1489954135491416065 https://twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/1490083210386104324?s=21 “Before I go everyone should know that I absolutely want Camilla to be called Queen, once I die; at some point but not now!!”
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The only good Office is the US version. I've only just recently finished bingeing it, and I'm still sad that it's over 
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That's going to go down like a lead balloon..
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I actually really liked the way the US office adapted the original and did its own thing. It was a bit saccharine for me in parts especially towards the end, overlong, and the whole thing doesn't even try to hide the fact it's capitalist propaganda, but when it was good it really nailed it. That dinner party episode was incredible.
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Communist Bear posted:That's going to go down like a lead balloon.. Yeah I can't imagine there are many people who would be super pleased to replace THE QUEEN with queen camilla lmao.
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Goldskull posted:I'm sure people are old enough to remember The 11 O'Clock Show on C4, where Gervais would come on for 5 mins every now and then, essentially doing a more arrogant prick version of his Office part, and consistently go down like a lead balloon with the live audience and presenters. So my response when everyone (lol) in the office said 'Awwww did you watch The Office?!! It's amazing!' and I find out it's him, I did not. I have seen most of it later, but not because of him. Never liked Carr either, or a lot of the Mock The Weak - er, Week - crew he rolls with. It's all nasty, punching-down edgelord humour of the kind I last liked in my 20s - which was probably when they were in their 20s, but they're still doing it.
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Seems like we're at the "but he's not a bad person, he doesn't constantly shout Holocaust jokes in private" stage of the Carr reckoning then.OwlFancier posted:Yeah I can't imagine there are many people who would be super pleased to replace THE QUEEN with queen camilla lmao.
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Feb 5, 2022 23:31
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It is going to be interesting I think when THE QUEEN has basically been a societal constant for the entirety of most people's lives, going to be weird when people have to start qualifying which one they mean.
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I honestly think having a different face on the money and stamps that boomers don't recognise as mummy will break more soft royalism than the actual atrocities of Prince Rupert of the Rhine.
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OwlFancier posted:It is going to be interesting I think when THE QUEEN has basically been a societal constant for the entirety of most people's lives, going to be weird when people have to start qualifying which one they mean. 
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honestly if the royals have got any sense of self-preservation left whatsoever they should skip charles and just make william king, imo i don't see the monarchy doing good in any case once Liz officially dies, but at least william is just plain and boring and not a walking charisma void
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If you don't hurry up he's gonna end up looking indistinguishable from charles anyway.
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Ricky Gervais was loving poo poo on the 11 O’clock Show and at the time the idea he’d get his own sitcom was ludicrous. But there’s no denying that The Office was an incredible achievement, and as much as I’d like to give all the credit to Stephen Merchant neither of their work has been as good since (though Gervais’ is far, far worse).
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Mebh posted:It's almost like money and fame insulate you from the rest of the world, give you a skewed perspective on others and lead you to being a terrible person. How, honestly, are you supposed to detect a bellend in the wild when you grew up with Giles Coren?
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BizarroAzrael posted:How, honestly, are you supposed to detect a bellend in the wild when you grew up with Giles Coren? you know i always wondered how she and her husband ended up together but then i saw her on taskmaster and it's like oh i totally get it now anyway i'm full of unpopular opinions i know but three sitcoms i can't loving stand: seinfeld, the office (any of them), friends i agree merchant seems like something of a good egg, perhaps. ricky gervais can gently caress himself though, he just seems a complete prick
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The rare triple threat.BizarroAzrael posted:How, honestly, are you supposed to detect a bellend in the wild when you grew up with Giles Coren?
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ThomasPaine posted:Every public figure I have ever had a crush on is a monster, even the ones I previously thought were good or at least just neutral, lol These people will use Corbyn's statement about a couple of specific Jewish people not understanding irony as a grave antisemitic slur, but if he'd simply joked about the murder of millions of Jews then that would have been acceptable, apparently. And dear God I'm not even strawmanning here, Victoria Coren literally said it would have been fine in a later tweet.
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