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Slamhound posted:There's an argument to be made that it's like the idea "there's no such thing as an anti-war film." well vervohoven also did starship troopers as pretty much a deliberate attempt to invert truffaut's law lol. i do think there's like some criticism you can make of robocop for being too pro-cop, but if anything it just makes the satire work better in retrospect- all the jokes about privitization of social services literally came true, except cops have even more free reign
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Slamhound posted:There's an argument to be made that it's like the idea "there's no such thing as an anti-war film." Anything can be interpreted in bad faith by those intending to do so. I don’t agree that it devalues the actual message of the work.
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Flesh Forge posted:pretty sure she is saying she didn't like being made to empathize with the main character, who is a cop, which is a little dumb but pretty understandable imo Some fun conversations in the replies lol https://twitter.com/jonathan_kramer/status/1490169124135309313?t=2BoCVAPn_FpRkS8poYUHHA&s=19
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Slamhound posted:There's an argument to be made that it's like the idea "there's no such thing as an anti-war film." paths of glory
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robocop was built by a megacorp and his first rule is "uphold the public trust" and "obey megacorp personnel" (or w/e) is dead last? i can only suspend my disbelief so far
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Suspicious posted:robocop was built by a megacorp and his first rule is "uphold the public trust" and "obey megacorp personnel" (or w/e) is dead last? rules are made to be changed
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Slamhound posted:There's an argument to be made that it's like the idea "there's no such thing as an anti-war film." Charles Ingalls posted:paths of glory come and see but yeah i don't think i could come up with a proper cop example
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Party Boat posted:Some fun conversations in the replies lol that guy is the real life unironic version of "Mobile Infantry made me the man I am today" legless man
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Correct, a strong communist power will break capitalism so hard they'll end civilization.
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Jose posted:https://twitter.com/ashnichrist/status/1490000334789488649?t=O3oTl7PdeWbzPFFI7f_VKg&s=19 Lol https://twitter.com/poppy_haze/status/1490390629448404995
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There's no bad opinion she hasn't had. https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1490438920923795457
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Slamhound posted:There's an argument to be made that it's like the idea "there's no such thing as an anti-war film." Bad Lieutenant seems like it would be hard to misinterpret
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Look, I don't know who needs to hear this, but Columbo was a pedophile.
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Jose posted:https://twitter.com/ashnichrist/status/1490000334789488649?t=O3oTl7PdeWbzPFFI7f_VKg&s=19 Lower class, a thing poor people call themselves. I'm all but one of these, and I demand 10 bitcoins of reparations from this thread
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Violence owns. Thank you Mr Verhoeven.
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while many of you are likely yelling “GO ULTRAVIOLENCE” or “GO STARSHIP TROOPERS!” I’m yelling “GO ROBOCOP and the rule of law!
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Bitch Lives Matter
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Buck Wildman posted:Bitch Lives Matter finally i feel seen
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:while many of you are likely yelling “GO ULTRAVIOLENCE” or “GO STARSHIP TROOPERS!” I’m yelling “GO ROBOCOP and the rule of law! lol
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I would, unironically and very sincerely, buy that for a dollar
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tokin opposition posted:Lower class, a thing poor people call themselves. I'm all but one of these, and I demand 10 bitcoins of reparations from this thread Poverty must become a marker of personal identity in order to be perceived by the liberal. I am lower class. I think of the macaroni-and-hot-dog meals my mother made in our efficiency apartment and proudly claim the identity for myself. I am a proud lower-class man. Poverty is something done to you by the ruling class, and they’re not going to perceive the ruling class or what it does outside of maybe some person-first language about a “person of means” who can’t help inheriting a bomb factory.
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Tricky D posted:Bad Lieutenant seems like it would be hard to misinterpret Isn't he messed up because he tried to be a hero and was injured?
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If that's actually a thing in the movie it's like, so faintly stated that it's totally drowned out by everything else in the movie, and unlikely to have been accidentally so
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Femur posted:Isn't he messed up because he tried to be a hero and was injured?
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1) NATO is a defensive alliance. Countries join NATO by popular vote. When people use the term "NATO expansion", what they (should) mean is "sovereign countries voting to join". 2) NATO will never invade Russia. Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet. If NATO invades Russia, the world ends. Nobody wants that. 3) The Russian elite knows that NATO will never invade Russia. "Fear of NATO expansion" is just a cover for the actual goal, which is rebuilding the former Russian/Soviet sphere of influence. Some people want to treat Russia like some scared and confused animal without any agency of its own, lashing out against a perceived threat. This is an exotic misunderstanding of the situation. 4) If Russia feels "threatened" by sovereign countries joining a defensive alliance, that's Russia's problem. Imagine an abusive ex-husband feeling insecure about his ex-wife taking self-defense courses after he assaulted her multiple times following their divorce. 5) If Russia doesn't want NATO to expand, they shouldn't have created a puppet state inside Moldavia (1992), shouldn't have invaded Georgia (2008), shouldn't have annexed Crimea (2014), and shouldn't have maintained a low-intensity conflict in the Donbass (2014, ongoing). 6) It is possible to be critical of both US and Russian imperialism at the same time. In fact, you should be. It is also possible to say that both are bad, AND acknowledge that Russian imperialism is worse. After all, both powers engage in foreign interventions, but at least the US doesn't annex neighboring countries, or threaten them militarily. US imperialism tends to happen through "soft power", i.e. capitalism, economic pressure, etc, while Russian imperialism is more "scorched earth", i.e. rolling in the tanks immediately after a country tries to drift away from their sphere of influence. See Hungary in 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968, Ukraine in 2014, and so on. 7) Supporting geopolitical enemies of the US will not help bring about a leftist utopia. As bad as the US is in many regards, its geopolitical enemies are far worse. Russia is an oligarchic autocracy that rigs elections and jails political opponents*, while China is a surveillance state tech-dystopia. Since there is no "third position", we choose the lesser of two evils, because above 80 IQ we do politics based on rationality, not raw emotions. *No, the US wanting to jail Snowden is not the same as Russia jailing Alexei Navalny. 8) The last, most agreeable point: @HasanAbi should really stay away from this subject. So far, him offering any commentary on the Ukraine crisis did nothing but expose the disappointing limits of US-based leftie streamer bros. Except for @Vaush , who consistently had good takes about the situation.
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Apparently the "buy that for a dollar" guy was some kind of sex pest in the first movie (it got cut) and was supposed to be president in the second robocop movie and that's pretty loving prescient.
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i think the funniest and most ironic thing about "it is a complete and utter abrogation of ukrainian sovereignty to say they cannot join nato" is like... does ukraine have a right to a defensive military alliance with america? how is it not a violation of american sovereignty ot say they have to let ukraine join? like im american, i dont want any more fuckin countries to be part of our defensive alliance. i dont even want us to be in nato! its perfectly rational for ukraine to want to join nato of course but, too bad sorry. also lmfao at saying vaush has good takes on this, he literally said we shoudl blockade and starve russia
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lobster shirt posted:i think the funniest and most ironic thing about "it is a complete and utter abrogation of ukrainian sovereignty to say they cannot join nato" is like... does ukraine have a right to a defensive military alliance with america? how is it not a violation of american sovereignty ot say they have to let ukraine join? like im american, i dont want any more fuckin countries to be part of our defensive alliance. i dont even want us to be in nato! its perfectly rational for ukraine to want to join nato of course but, too bad sorry.
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30.5 Days posted:Apparently the "buy that for a dollar" guy was some kind of sex pest in the first movie (it got cut) and was supposed to be president in the second robocop movie and that's pretty loving prescient.
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30.5 Days posted:Apparently the "buy that for a dollar" guy was some kind of sex pest in the first movie (it got cut) and was supposed to be president in the second robocop movie and that's pretty loving prescient. as I remember it even in the clips that got left in he was already pretty handsy and skeevy
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https://robocop.fandom.com/wiki/Bixby_Snyder
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Thank you robocop.fandom.com
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https://twitter.com/arkloster/status/1490901471323324419?s=21 Since we’re talking about movie opinions.
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Hachi loving machi
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Hedenius posted:https://twitter.com/arkloster/status/1490901471323324419?s=21 
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hitting my head with a ball peen hammer in the exact spot to forget the professional and city of lost children so my name can never be invoked in an opinion like that
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