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can’t wait til the PLA liberate the death camps along the US-Mexico border
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Feb 9, 2022 18:26
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genericnick posted:Why Austria? I had to study the procurement of the K.u.K Armee’s artillery arm for a paper and it kind of ballooned from there. At a certain point all military history is social history, which is economic history etc etc, until I had a bookshelf on the Austrian Empire from the Napoleonic Wars to 1919.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:29
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I’ve thought about cancelling my verso book club sub and trying out haymarket books instead. that article and some of the book selections recently might get me to do that sooner than later
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Feb 9, 2022 18:30
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preventing the deaths of a million people, with far right chinese characteristics
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Feb 9, 2022 18:33
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Wasn’t Verso a left press like Zer0?
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Feb 9, 2022 18:36
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Frosted Flake posted:I know nothing about the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, other than what Austrian histories touch on with the Partitions and Galicia. I remember that several regional crises involved their elective monarchy and parliament, but again only insofar as that involved Austria. The Polish-Lithuania Commonwealth was a constitutionally elective monarchy where the lower nobility theoretically had the weight of the vote but it was really controlled by a small number of landed magnates. After an colonial expansion to the East, they got bogged down in a quagmire in an attempt to hold Moscow, and due to an inability to raise taxes or modernize its military to the gunpowder age, eventually were pushed back and over time would become little more than a puppet state of neighboring powers. There is more but that is the basic summary. Essentially, imperial states where oligarchs hold the weight of power will usually implode quicker than more centralized states because not only will oligarchs not tax themselves but they usually see themselves as a practically a separate culture than the masses. Eventually, they become so insular that they completely lose track of what is actually occurring and essentially live in a fantasy world of their own creation. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 18:41 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Feb 9, 2022 18:39
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gradenko_2000 posted:China has developed clouds of drones capable of lighting up the night sky in coordinated formations, but US officials are concerned the drones could fly around in formations besides a celebratory display historically accurate. China just made fireworks with gunpowder while the Europeans rushed to weaponize it.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:40
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gradenko_2000 posted:1. steel mill, not a power plant Ahhh that makes sense
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Feb 9, 2022 18:42
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GlassEye-Boy posted:historically accurate. China just made fireworks with gunpowder while the Europeans rushed to weaponize it. The Chinese firelance also preceded Western firearms…they were just a lot more advanced period.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:43
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ladies and gentlemen, we got em https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSF-4xjmsUA Gresh has issued a correction as of 18:47 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Feb 9, 2022 18:45
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iirc the main reason Europeans developed cannons & firearms while the Chinese stuck with bombs & fire lances was that European castle walls were relatively thin and could actually be knocked down with a cannon ball. Chinese city walls otoh were way bigger, wider, and reinforced with massive earthworks at their core. So cannons in Chinese warfare would've been useless until about the time Europeans had to develop star forts.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:46
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Breakfast All Day posted:preventing the deaths of a million people, with far right chinese characteristics think of all the baby novel coronavirus fetuses aborted by the evil far right literally hitler chinese regime
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Feb 9, 2022 18:49
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Ardennes posted:The Polish-Lithuania Commonwealth was a constitutionally elective monarchy where the lower nobility theoretically had the weight of the vote but it was really controlled by a small number of landed magnates. Thanks for that, I can see why that’s alarming! Being a decentralized state surrounded by European Great Powers seems like a recipe for disaster. I’m guessing any attempts to centralize or reform were shutdown by the oligarchs eh?
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Feb 9, 2022 18:52
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Gresh posted:ladies and gentlemen, we got em is Biden posing in front of the UPA flag at that press conference? UPA colors are supposed to be red on top and black on the bottom. did they hang it upside down?
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Feb 9, 2022 18:54
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:iirc the main reason Europeans developed cannons & firearms while the Chinese stuck with bombs & fire lances was that European castle walls were relatively thin and could actually be knocked down with a cannon ball. Chinese city walls otoh were way bigger, wider, and reinforced with massive earthworks at their core. So cannons in Chinese warfare would've been useless until about the time Europeans had to develop star forts. Also, Ming-era (mid-1600s) bimetallic cannons were actually competitive for the period and even gave the British some trouble during the opium wars. If even moderate progress has occurred under the Qing, the wars wouldn’t have happened in the first place.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:55
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Ardennes posted:Also, Ming-era (mid-1600s) bimetallic cannons were actually competitive for the period and even gave the British some trouble during the opium wars. If even moderate progress has occurred under the Qing, the wars wouldn’t have happened in the first place. People don't give the Chinese and other East Asian nations enough credit for advancing rocketry either.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:57
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https://twitter.com/gundamcel/status/1491206472050802688?t=iDkSfF9yhgzCeYpQcRRUzg&s=19
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Feb 9, 2022 18:58
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Even by the Opium Wars and Taiping Rebellion, artillery could not defeat Chinese walled cities or forts, for exactly the reasons you said. When the British and French took Chinese forts they bombarded them until they could land troops to storm them, spike the guns and blow up the magazines. They had sophisticated guns, much better than the antiques the Chinese had, and won gunnery duels with the forts at a time when doctrine held that forts always defeat ships, but their shells’ explosive filler was black powder. It wasn’t until high explosives came about that ordnance was energetic enough to break them up. This also happened in the siege of Plevna during the Russian Turkish wars. Artillery as an arm was getting pretty sophisticated, guns could deliver accurate fire, shell and shrapnel were in general use, but black powder limited effect on target. “Here the battle began, from a south-easterly direction, by the sudden opening of twenty-four guns upon a little battery in the very front of the position. I was not in that battery during the day, so I cannot detail the incidents which occurred there; but it will please the Russians to know that, though they fired nearly 500 shells into its confined area, and ploughed up every metre of ground in it, they only wounded one Turk and did some trifling damage —quickly repaired —to a gun carriage. Of the next battery I can speak from personal observation. Thirteen hours’ fire, sometimes from thirty guns at once, carried no harm of any kind into that battery. Dr. Ryan, an Irishman, who was there in the medical service of the Turks, had not a single case.” “The reasons for the lack of damage are most likely the soft clay soil found around Plevna and the lack of sufficient numbers of large siege guns in the Russian artillery arsenal there.” Chinese walls are also largely clay-based, I believe. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 19:11 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Feb 9, 2022 19:01
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Frosted Flake posted:Thanks for that, I can see why that’s alarming! A big part of it was that the nobility itself wanted to ride into battle as cavalry (winged hussars) and while this successful against underarmed forces, the commonwealth wasn’t prepared to pay for a more modern gunpowder based army of trained peasants since the nobility would essentially be irrelevant except as a potential tax base. Also, their navy eventually rotted at the moorings since they refused to pay for it. This is the period of the “Deluge” as rival armies essentially marched across Poland at will. Eventually, all of their neighbors had modern militaries had gunpowder based infantry forces that could easily crush them (and often did) but the Commonwealth persisted because they couldn’t agree about who should control it until it was eventually just partitioned. —— Yeah, Chinese forts often held out for a while but usually it came down to attrition as British cannons could almost always outrange them as you said, until they provided covering fire for ground forces. It wasn’t fated to be though a lot of it simply came down to how the Qing managed China. I don’t think the CPC is still that hot on the Qing. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 19:18 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Feb 9, 2022 19:02
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gradenko_2000 posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > C-SPAM > [Eurasia] Never thought I'd come around on Deng, yet here we are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTOBvGzurxA
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Feb 9, 2022 19:07
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Stairmaster posted:https://twitter.com/gundamcel/status/1491206472050802688?t=iDkSfF9yhgzCeYpQcRRUzg&s=19 $60 at GameStop that’s how much
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Feb 9, 2022 19:07
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DerekJGrossman/status/1491427532855341058
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Feb 9, 2022 19:17
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maybe india should stop sucking rear end
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Feb 9, 2022 19:22
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Angel wing harnesses and decorative leopard skins were the early modern version of the F-35.
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Feb 9, 2022 19:30
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are these the anti-communist leftists that Parenti talks about
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Feb 9, 2022 19:33
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I’ll try to find it but one of those “Why China is doomed” books written by an American author suggests some sort of religious revival is underway that will sweep away in CCP in a modern Taiping Rebellion only this time they’ll be proper Evangelical Protestants. I hadn’t realized the snake handlers had also pivoted to China instead of the middle east, but they are part or that conservative coalition and I should’ve seen this coming. Wild.
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Feb 9, 2022 19:38
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Frosted Flake posted:I’ll try to find it but one of those “Why China is doomed” books written by an American author suggests some sort of religious revival is underway that will sweep away in CCP in a modern Taiping Rebellion only this time they’ll be proper Evangelical Protestants. evangelicals have gone hogwild there but from what i understand christians can't be members of the CPC which is a really good policy considering evangelicals are going hogwild there
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Feb 9, 2022 19:40
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Seriously though, did they set up a UPA flag for Biden's press conference? I'm not crazy, right?
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Feb 9, 2022 19:43
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I hope China builds a loving wall around Mt.Kailash and prevents another loving indian pilgrim from setting foot in Humla and doing the pilgrimage up there. Humla is one of the poorest regions of Nepal and also where the Maoists started the people's war. Due to the changes in economies and production in both Tibet and India after WWII, Humla's poverty became worse. Humla had once been a petty kingdom relying on the salt trade between Tibet and India. It was conquered by Kathmandu and the Gorkha kingdom (Now Nepal) around the late 1800s. The war left it's infrastructure destroyed and its profits/production to be sucked out towards Kathmandu and rest of Nepal. The changes in India (introduction of iodized salts, industrial agriculture, demarcation of borders) and Tibet (closure of the border and splitting of the trading communities after China took over) left what remained in Humla to crumble to dust. Humla from 1950's onwards had a continuous artificial famine all the way to the present. Also the border disputes between India and China closed off the traditional routes to Mt.Kailash (where Shiva resides in Hinduism) and the closest one can get to the glaciers and foot of the mountain was through Humla. Huge numbers of Indian pilgrims would come through Humla. But since Humla didn't have sufficient food production for itself, and no interstate highway connection, the whole food situation was made worse. The Nepali government focused on providing for the pilgrims at the expense of the people living in Humla ( thanks to the efforts of the IMF and WB which promoted tourism). The whole food and poverty situation has only gotten worse. Now days there is an airport in Simkot that ferries Indian pilgrims in helicopter up to the Mt.Kailash circuit. There is a huge resort that overlooks the town which at the time of my research there was eating up something like 50% of all food imported into the region. The only people who have done anything to alleviate the structural problem of Humla's poverty has been the Maoists (with the people's war) and China (probably unintentionally, since the highway they have made up to the border was more in regards to border security etc). ughhhh has issued a correction as of 19:52 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Feb 9, 2022 19:48
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i love living in the capital of the world's strongest and richest nation where there is exactly 0 distilled water is available
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Feb 9, 2022 19:48
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distill it yourself lazy rear end
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Feb 9, 2022 19:49
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distill deez nuts
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Feb 9, 2022 19:50
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building a still to produce the one gallon i need every other day for the humidifier
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Feb 9, 2022 19:50
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Raskolnikov38 posted:building a still to produce the one gallon i need every other day for the humidifier just plug a dehumidifier in and then distill what you collect from that
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Feb 9, 2022 19:52
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:iirc the main reason Europeans developed cannons & firearms while the Chinese stuck with bombs & fire lances was that European castle walls were relatively thin and could actually be knocked down with a cannon ball. Chinese city walls otoh were way bigger, wider, and reinforced with massive earthworks at their core. So cannons in Chinese warfare would've been useless until about the time Europeans had to develop star forts. thinking about those thicc chinese walls
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Feb 9, 2022 19:57
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Apparently it’s fashionable in the D&D thread to refer to Chinese journalists as “state media handlers” lol
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Feb 9, 2022 19:58
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i love living in the capital of the world's strongest and richest nation where there is exactly 0 distilled water is available
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Feb 9, 2022 19:59
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i love living in the capital of the world's strongest and richest nation where there is exactly 0 distilled water is available sucks to need a cpap there I guess i hope people like brain eating amoebas
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Feb 9, 2022 20:00
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The funny thing is America could have easily won the coming confrontation with the stroke of a pen by admitting Russia into NATO in 2002 when they asked. Doing so would have fully contained china. But since Lockheed Martin runs our entire economy we needed the Russian threat to increase arms sales so lmao.
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Feb 9, 2022 20:03
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Centrist Committee posted:thinking about those thicc chinese walls help me, steppe nomads, my walls are too thick and I'm stuck!
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Feb 9, 2022 20:03
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