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1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Bar Ran Dun posted:

I found a very small part of it, not McKinsey, Pugh-Robert’s.



This is really interesting, thanks for posting. Project Management for ship repair/construct has definitely come a long way since then. If you're a giant nerd that likes reading extra textbooks for fun, here's a link to Nasa's EVM handbook: https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/nasa_schedule_management_hand_book.pdf - a chunk of it is a bit day to day operational related, but it's an excellent, free resource. And here's the 50,000 foot overview: https://www.nasa.gov/evm/tutorial

I agree with the core assessment of that image and saw it unfold too many times - bad Project Managers intentionally under schedule labor and it causes a lotta issues. I do think the image is overly complex; we utilized discrete examples though had the benefit of EVM's project manager reserve already in place.

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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Bar Ran Dun posted:

I found a very small part of it, not McKinsey, Pugh-Robert’s.


:hmmyes:
"Apparent Progress" my kind of progress

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
more from "About Face":






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Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/DefenseCharts/status/1488541148486373379

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Didn't read anything in this thread except the title

but I'm pretty everyone will lose WW3 OP

OK baizuo
Mar 19, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




it was americans little brother holding the controller that time. now hes really playing

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/RealAirPower1/status/1490279823981395968?t=lyBT3k_6mIec8QqXbOhtiw&s=19

landing a f-35 like its warthunder

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

F-35 specs will be leaked on the War Thunder forums any day now

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

war thunder is fantastic, i love zooming around in interwar planes

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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Real hurthling! posted:

it was americans little brother holding the controller that time. now hes really playing

lots of secret projects on how to kill brown people intentionally by mistake

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011

A friendly little mouse!
Are russians considered really 'white' in America? :thunk:

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Fish of hemp posted:

Are russians considered really 'white' in America? :thunk:

you can tell they're considered white by the amount of spy movies and tv shows that are fascinated by the idea that Russians might be living among us and we wouldn't be able to tell them apart from regular old white people

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

vyelkin posted:

you can tell they're considered white by the amount of spy movies and tv shows that are fascinated by the idea that Russians might be living among us and we wouldn't be able to tell them apart from regular old white people

This ties back into this thread because the one time the FBI busted a bunch of Russian spies living as Americans:

* all their neighbors were like “yeah they were super weird, pretended to have been born and raised in the Midwest but didn’t know anything about the Midwest and had Russian accents so thick it was hard to understand their English”

* the only reason the FBI busted them was their boss defected and ratted them out

The FBI has spent too much time giving toy bombs to children with mental issues to actually catch real spies. At least we’ve got our concentration camp practice in for next time.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
more from "About Face":




Palladium
May 8, 2012

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gradenko_2000 posted:

more from "About Face":

i'm absolutely shocked that a military would go dysfunctional when it exists for private profit

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Palladium posted:

i'm absolutely shocked that a military would go dysfunctional when it exists for private profit

This is what all colonial militaries exist to do. Colonial projects are only truly abandoned when the expenditures of maintaining power grow too costly for the home country to tolerate. Colonialists either have to be defeated outright (a Herculean struggle almost nobody can achieve) or defeated materially by making them lose more wealth than their cost of lives can justify.

Reactionaries can't understand how we could lose a war like Vietnam where the material conditions overwhelmingly favored American forces. Their ideology makes them too sentimental. Every life lost is to them an incalculable value, so if we kill more of the enemy that means we're winning. If we kill enough of them that means they have to give up. But for the wretched of the Earth, death and misery are already facts of life inflicted upon them by the colonizer. The tragedies and indignities of empire are for them already too much to bear, and they will accept any cost if it means escaping this wretched condition.

The simple fact is that empire is waged on a balance sheet. If there's no profit to be gained then it's pointless. There's no ideology or faith that could make America believe we should break the bank on behalf of a puppet government on the other side of the planet.

Calling the communists monsters and terrorists is such a fat load. If they were monsters it's because the French & Americans made them that way. It's also true that some monsters are worse than others. Everywhere the forces of reaction have won out they did so through the implementation of absolute terror. The kind of sadism that, if people saw it in a comic book they'd call it pornographic and demand it be banned. That's the only option we have for "winning."

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 12:05 on Feb 9, 2022

Rhandhali
Sep 7, 2003

This is Free Trader Beowulf, calling anyone...
Grimey Drawer

Fish of hemp posted:

Are russians considered really 'white' in America? :thunk:

I guess Keith Olbermann doesn’t think they are.

https://twitter.com/keitholbermann/status/1363946602826764292?s=21

FishBulbia
Dec 22, 2021

What the gently caress is that post, last name is literally Mann, like the most German name ever

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
the ‘STAIN’ of Russian heritage lol holy loving racism Batman

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Keith Olbersturmfuhrer

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth

Al-Saqr posted:

the ‘STAIN’ of Russian heritage lol holy loving racism Batman

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
Grandma, you dumb Russian bitch, gently caress you for giving birth

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
Was there ever properly war declared (in so far as the US does that anymore) on Cambodia or did we just kramer into a neutral country and drop chemical weapons and beaucoup high explosive?

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat

skooma512 posted:

Was there ever properly war declared (in so far as the US does that anymore) on Cambodia or did we just kramer into a neutral country and drop chemical weapons and beaucoup high explosive?

i think the last time we declared war was 1941

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

skooma512 posted:

Was there ever properly war declared (in so far as the US does that anymore) on Cambodia or did we just kramer into a neutral country and drop chemical weapons and beaucoup high explosive?

the latter

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Cambodia was the "secret war" because they knew it was illegal.

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
Now they have learned they don't have to be very secret because international law doesn't apply to the USA

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

skooma512 posted:

Was there ever properly war declared (in so far as the US does that anymore) on Cambodia or did we just kramer into a neutral country and drop chemical weapons and beaucoup high explosive?

lol declare war? my dude we actively hid it (and the bombing of laos) from congress, even when they opened an investigation into it

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Breakfast All Day posted:

lol declare war? my dude we actively hid it (and the bombing of laos) from congress, even when they opened an investigation into it

1…2…3…4…only children still declare war

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Centrist Committee posted:

1…2…3…4…only children still declare war

was wikiing it bc i couldnt remember which term clinton declassified it, and lmao this d&d brain line

quote:

The consequences of U.S. bombing of Cambodia, positive and negative, are still widely debated by participants and scholars.

just NPOV discussing the positives and negatives of the secret illegal bombing campaign that killed 150,000 civilians, plunged a region into two decades of chaos, resulting in a few million more deaths

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
Didn't a newly-reunified Vietnam then go into Cambodia and gently caress up the Khmer Rouge shortly after? And win a war against China a year later? Yet Americans remain baffled that the US Army was beaten by a bunch of "impoverished rice farmers"

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




FishBulbia posted:

What the gently caress is that post, last name is literally Mann, like the most German name ever

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans?wprov=sfti1

Might be descended from these guys.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
Alternatively, if he's extra stupid, just an East Prussian.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Alternatively, if he's extra stupid, just an East Prussian.

Or his family was given large grants of land in the Ukraine back in '43 but he hasn't been able to go there because of the perfidious Russians.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Thank God the Vietminh won that war.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

HonorableTB posted:

Didn't a newly-reunified Vietnam then go into Cambodia and gently caress up the Khmer Rouge shortly after? And win a war against China a year later? Yet Americans remain baffled that the US Army was beaten by a bunch of "impoverished rice farmers"

The vietnamese have a military history that almost defies belief in its success

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Milo and POTUS posted:

The vietnamese have a military history that almost defies belief in its success

They really do. The really lovely thing is that the US could have made an ally of Ho Chi Minh when he naively came asking for America's support for Viet independence, America said no because France, so Ho Chi Minh shopped around until he found a power that would help. Just turned out to be the Soviets instead of the Americans. Imagine if the NVA and Viet Cong had been allies instead of enemies to the US LOL. That war would have been over in less than a month.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

HonorableTB posted:

They really do. The really lovely thing is that the US could have made an ally of Ho Chi Minh when he naively came asking for America's support for Viet independence, America said no because France, so Ho Chi Minh shopped around until he found a power that would help. Just turned out to be the Soviets instead of the Americans. Imagine if the NVA and Viet Cong had been allies instead of enemies to the US LOL. That war would have been over in less than a month.

There wouldn't have been a war then. Hypothetically, if the Americans accepted Ho Chi Minh's proposal then Vietnam would've been independent of France after WW2. No French-Indochina War, no American entry into the Vietnam war. The only potential snag is that the Viet Minh would've still embraced socialism and that was going to be a problem.

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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Henry Wallace would've spared Vietnam thirty years of war

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