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https://twitter.com/matt_sheldrake/status/1491212178590171136?t=2-K3Tr9jtDeXqFPSa9-HkQ&s=19 Lol
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Feb 9, 2022 10:08
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Starsfan posted:I think it was already in the works prior to the "truckers" protests for what it's worth.. Was already announced last week before they blockaded the border at southern Alberta to my recollection that the UCP would have a very special announcement for their demented followers coming up. Yeah I just remembered he has his big leadership review in early April, so all the restrictions were always going to be gone by then. No way he keeps his jobs without the "covid isn't real" MLAs. So in conclusion: HappyHippo posted:The annoying thing is that this was going to happen relatively soon anyway but now the "truckers" are going to take credit for it
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Feb 9, 2022 10:20
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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More outposts forming in Ottawa: https://twitter.com/_llebrun/status/1491394025651576836 Fed knives out for OPS: https://twitter.com/btaplatt/status/1491261674015584257
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Feb 9, 2022 13:57
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Lars Blitzer posted:Look for further idiocy and active malice in equal measure in the coming days. You might as well predict the sun will rise tomorrow.
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Feb 9, 2022 14:30
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Piquai Souban posted:More outposts forming in Ottawa: There had better be a reckoning for this when it’s all said and done. So sick of categorical failures by leadership that are not met with any sort of response.
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Feb 9, 2022 14:32
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On the one hand, he's a police officer, on the other hand, he's a Black man in a leadership position. Hard to say which way they're going to go.
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Feb 9, 2022 14:36
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:There had better be a reckoning for this when it’s all said and done. So sick of categorical failures by leadership that are not met with any sort of response. The reckoning will be lots of praise and medals and cash bonuses for all the brave Ottawa police officers. Peter Sloly will be appointed to the Senate. I take no joy in reporting this.
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Feb 9, 2022 15:18
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Piquai Souban posted:More outposts forming in Ottawa: Lol that building to the right in the first picture is CSE.
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Feb 9, 2022 15:24
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So, as an Ottawan, Sloly sucks. But: From what he's said in the emergency council meeting vs. what people have been hearing from the cops on the streets and their actions, it seems to me that there is at least something of a 'quiet' mutiny occurring in the OPS. He was shown footage of occupiers walking past a police SUV with fuel containers and said it must have been old footage seeing as how they had announced charges for anybody supplying the occupiers. But it was from that same day. He is ineffective yes, but I believe he has no idea what's actually happening out there and that any directives that he's giving are basically being ignored by his own officers. He has lost control of his own force. I think he had good intentions with ideas of reforming the OPS but the pandemic and all this happened and it may now be too late.
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Feb 9, 2022 15:26
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Yup. All of this absolutely REEKS of Mutt Scuff. Not that taking the reins and calling yourself a reformer is going to make you a whole lot of friends, but I get the impression he lost the room early, and it's the head of the not-a-union-union who makes the calls around here.
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Feb 9, 2022 15:35
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Police cannot be reformed from the inside. It has to be a powerful and well armed external force mandated to investigate and arrest police. Has any country ever successfully had such a force?
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Feb 9, 2022 15:40
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Pretend I posted a video of myself trying to hold up a copy of the Knapp Commission report, but being unable to, because I'm laughing too hard to sit upright
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Feb 9, 2022 15:46
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Some chucklefuck in Winnipeg is trying to organize a flash mob of antimaskers to descend on the city's largest mall on Saturday. If I'm there when the cackle of Karen's descend, I'll give you all a trip report.
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Feb 9, 2022 15:55
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https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1491427102989889538?s=20&t=yK5mCv7dYXB661uX7xUdiQ at least he apologized, I guess
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Feb 9, 2022 16:11
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The Ottawa police have done poorly. There are reasons for this, including that their chief is pushing through badly needed reform so half the force hates his guts. But, relevant question here, how much funding does the Federal Government provide to the OPS, who apparently they depend upon for this kind of thing? quote:Since 2010, the Federal Government has provided the City of Ottawa with compensation in the amount of $2 million a year, to cover the costs associated with providing extraordinary policing services in the nation’s capital that are not otherwise covered by a cost-recovery agreements tied to specific events. That seems low!
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Feb 9, 2022 16:26
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Fidelitious posted:He has lost control of his own force. I just hope that all the eyes on this event forces this conclusion to be discussed in the open. Our officials and public need to realize we have a lovely praetorian guard out there. The worst thing that can happen now is he takes the fall and resigns or is canned and everyone moves on.
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Feb 9, 2022 16:48
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super cool and good that our law enforcement officials can be given orders to enforce the law and they just decide "nah fam I'm good" with zero consequences.
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Feb 9, 2022 16:48
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Feb 9, 2022 16:54
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I keep hearing "we can't tow the trucks away!" Arrest the owners Take the keys Drive them away Or would this be considered an illegal seizure?
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Feb 9, 2022 17:12
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Nah, as much as I hate the whole concept of civil forfeiture the cops absolutely could seize trucks and cars. But they won't.
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Feb 9, 2022 17:15
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The Beaverton has a pretty good take on how the police are dealing with it https://www.thebeaverton.com/2022/02/ottawa-police-announce-new-strategy-for-dealing-with-freedom-convoy-protestors-unconditional-surrender/
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Feb 9, 2022 17:16
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Fidelitious posted:So, as an Ottawan, Sloly sucks. But: From what he's said in the emergency council meeting vs. what people have been hearing from the cops on the streets and their actions, it seems to me that there is at least something of a 'quiet' mutiny occurring in the OPS. He was shown footage of occupiers walking past a police SUV with fuel containers and said it must have been old footage seeing as how they had announced charges for anybody supplying the occupiers. But it was from that same day. Just disband the loving OPS at this point. What they're currently doing is worse than nothing. They can all re-apply for their jobs when this is over, and the insubordinate ones should lose their loving pensions.
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Feb 9, 2022 17:21
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LeschNyhan posted:Nah, as much as I hate the whole concept of civil forfeiture the cops absolutely could seize trucks and cars. But they won't. It wouldn't need to be civil forfeiture. If a guy is waving a gun around in public and you arrest him and take the gun its not civil forfeiture.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:05
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terrorist ambulance posted:It wouldn't need to be civil forfeiture. If a guy is waving a gun around in public and you arrest him and take the gun its not civil forfeiture. Also, cops can seize whatever they want on the the spot. If they get it wrong, it will get sorted out in the courts 6-18 months later.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:09
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Alctel posted:I don't think it's ICU numbers that are the problem, they are still fairly low, but it's general hospitalisation rates that are really high right now Last I checked BC reports incidental covid cases as hospitalisations, so if you break your arm and test positive for covid, that's a covid hospitalization. Some states have seen over 50% incidental covid rates. I think I saw an estimate that BC was 45% for December. Anyway, it's useful to contextualize hospitalizations with this information.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:29
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MA-Horus posted:Maybe I'm missing something, but I keep hearing "we can't tow the trucks away!" Can you ouroboros a truck so you can't tow it away?
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Feb 9, 2022 18:33
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Tsyni posted:Last I checked BC reports incidental covid cases as hospitalisations, so if you break your arm and test positive for covid, that's a covid hospitalization. Some states have seen over 50% incidental covid rates. I think I saw an estimate that BC was 45% for December. Anyway, it's useful to contextualize hospitalizations with this information. This sounds like it could be the case (from a quick data processing standpoint, if nothing else), but it also sounds like something the proverbial Can-chud uncle would say. Where did this estimate come from? What about death counts?
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Feb 9, 2022 18:40
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ah you see, this overweight middle aged guy with poorly controlled diabetes and hosed up blood pressure was admitted for a cardiac event and has COVID, it's not a problem though, he's just hospitalized WITH covid, not from it, open er the gently caress up *death count increments by one 2 weeks later*
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Feb 9, 2022 18:55
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RedFlag posted:This sounds like it could be the case (from a quick data processing standpoint, if nothing else), but it also sounds like something the proverbial Can-chud uncle would say. Where did this estimate come from? What about death counts? From Denmark (sorry):  In week 1, 6/38 ICU admissions were not receiving COVID-specific treatment. In week 2, 7/26. Week 3, 7/17. Week 4, 9/24. So in January we see a chunk of ICU admits "with" COVID who were being treated in ICU for "something else" - running about a third in the latter 3/4 of January.
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Feb 9, 2022 18:57
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also, very comforting that both Edmonton and Calgary boards of education have signalled this came as a surprise to them and they don't have any transitional planning. kids went to school today with no clear instruction on whether they're required to mask in school or not clear signs of sober, deliberative decision making on public health
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Feb 9, 2022 18:58
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MA-Horus posted:Maybe I'm missing something, but I keep hearing "we can't tow the trucks away!" Nope. S.221 allows the cops to take any apparently-abanded or unplated vehicle to a "suitable place"; it does not specify how. Even if the cop had the right license though, driving it probably violates some departmental policy; We had one forbidding us from driving a subject's vehicle, even a short distance, for liability and insurance reasons. Chillyrabbit posted:Can you ouroboros a truck so you can't tow it away? Yes, but that's an offense: HTA posted:84.2 (1) Where any part of a vehicle or anything affixed to a vehicle becomes detached from the vehicle while it is on a highway, the driver of the vehicle is guilty of an offence. 2005, c. 26, Sched. A, s. 14. 84.3 creates a similar offense of doing work on a vehicle that causes a part of it to detach while on a highway. If you really wanted to be a dick, you could use your power under s.124 to order the driver to have his vehicle weighed -- but you'd probably lose that one for abuse of process.
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Feb 9, 2022 19:04
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RedFlag posted:This sounds like it could be the case (from a quick data processing standpoint, if nothing else), but it also sounds like something the proverbial Can-chud uncle would say. Where did this estimate come from? What about death counts? https://biv.com/article/2022/02/incidental-covid-19-hospitalizations-bc-are-about-44-total posted:Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry said health officials conducted chart reviews of 550 hospitalized COVID-19 patients, starting on December 1, and discovered that 344, or 44.3 per cent of them, were in hospital initially for a reason that was not their COVID-19 infection, and that these infections were mild. I saw some actual data on this somewhere(sorry, don't have time to dig it up this second), but here is an article that talks about some other places in the states. https://www.ft.com/content/9e29ad1c-b0a5-4b7d-b569-f1f8dd0e8e04 posted:Statewide data on incidental admissions has only recently become available in places such as New York and Massachusetts, which have started collecting the data. In New York state, 42 per cent of Covid hospitalisations in New York state are incidental while in Los Angeles county the figure is two-thirds. In Florida, the Jackson Health System reported that out of their current 508 Covid-positive patients, 53 per cent were incidental admissions. I don't know about the death counts. I was just trying to say that sky-high hospitalizations aren't necessarily as stark as they seem. Tsyni fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Feb 9, 2022 20:41
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I mean I don't know why you wouldn't just arrest the driver and take their keys to gain access to the cab, or have a locksmith pick the lock on the cab, disable the air brakes and tow it away.
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Feb 9, 2022 21:19
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Tsyni posted:Last I checked BC reports incidental covid cases as hospitalisations, so if you break your arm and test positive for covid, that's a covid hospitalization. Some states have seen over 50% incidental covid rates. I think I saw an estimate that BC was 45% for December. Anyway, it's useful to contextualize hospitalizations with this information. That's totally true, but the additional workload from covid cases still means that our hospitals are pretty full Just less of them progress to ICU which is great
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Feb 9, 2022 21:40
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https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1491506816391516162 Well the OPS have put out a statement and arrests may actually start to happen soon. Not holding my breath but this is at least somewhat promising
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Feb 9, 2022 21:54
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Do you guys realize they put these same releases out every loving day? Nothing is going to happen.
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Feb 9, 2022 22:07
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This was already announced once in the Canada Gazette, that's plenty. Start hauling these assholes away.
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Feb 9, 2022 22:25
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MNIMWA posted:https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1491506816391516162 Well that all sounds well and good but who is actually going to enforce all of this?
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Feb 9, 2022 22:26
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Madkal posted:Well that all sounds well and good but who is actually going to enforce all of this? Antifa Supersoldiers, hopefully. Guest2553 fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Feb 9, 2022 22:40
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“Working class protest” = loving over actual workers with your petulant bullshit https://www.thestar.com/business/20...e-blockade.html quote:
Also this guy is an idiot but pretty telling in how little law enforcement resistance there has been to the ambassador bridge occupation: “If I’m forced at gunpoint to leave, I’ll leave, not interested in getting beat up.” Edit: talking about the second clip here, guy in the red https://twitter.com/cityadrian/status/1491516961439862791?s=21
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