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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Arivia posted:

It’s not quite true. Phylactery can mean a holy Christian relic (for example it was very common to carry the “bones of a saint” around as a good luck charm) as well as Jewish tefilim. Both of these uses are legitimate and go back centuries.

The problem is that Gary Gygax conflated the two pretty hard in the use in D&D, so the meaning and the ideas are pretty tainted. The origin idea of a lich is from Koschei the Deathless in Russian myth, and the naming of a “phylactery” comes much later (in the 1e MM I think from the last time Trad Games fought about this, which is after the lich’s introduction in I think Supplement 1: Greyhawk and after Len Lakofka solidified a bunch of lich stuff in a Dragon magazine article).

So the idea of a “lich has a place where their soul is stored” as a phylactery in and of itself isn’t bad or wrong. However, in the same edition Gygax defines a phylactery in both forms (there’s a list of fantasy word definitions in the DMG) and then the Jewish meaning of phylactery as a carried holy text is used as a magic item (specifically the phylactery of faithfulness). When you get to 3e (so the 2000s edition of D&D) this gets rewritten onto the lich’s phylactery itself, which is also listed as being the form/meaning as a Jewish tefilim.

In other words, it’s something that tabletop RPGs are moving away from using (soul cage is what Pathfinder/Paizo is going to) because it’s so inextricably messed up, but someone just saying “the lich’s phylactery” may not be invoking Jewish holy symbols intentionally, and may have no idea of that meaning because there is a clear through line and definition that doesn’t have anything to do with Judaism.

Yea I'm pretty heavily forgiving of it because it clearly comes from Gygax just finding a cool religious mystic word and going 'aw yea that'll spice things up' and accidentally also invoking an extremely sacred part of a different culture for 'spoopy evil undead soul eating monster'. It's good to fix, I encourage groups to do the same because it changes nothing except removing an insensitive label, but at least it seems to be more genuine ignorance than actual bigotry which...sadly in table top RPGs is worth pointing out...

My group calls it The Soul Hole mainly because it also works in character to piss off most lich types by shouting at them to 'reveal The Soul Hole'.

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cult_hero
Jul 10, 2001

sexpig by night posted:


My group calls it The Soul Hole mainly because it also works in character to piss off most lich types by shouting at them to 'reveal The Soul Hole'.

You gotta pay the soul troll to get to this soul's hole.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1491525010997096449

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

I got very confused about what this had to do with the new magic set for a moment

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

lmao but now this moron made me want gazpacho

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗


Context: America's Army the military recruitment FPS is finally shutting down its servers.
Most of this is just :words: but I love that end note "Yo, I played a ton of these games as a kid and can talk in depth about realism and the skills I learned from playing. It's a terrible recruitment tool though, because I enlisted in a different branch of the military!"

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

My former boss said I couldn't today when I got to work. Thanks a lot.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Coolness Averted posted:

Most of this is just :words: but I love that end note "Yo, I played a ton of these games as a kid and can talk in depth about realism and the skills I learned from playing. It's a terrible recruitment tool though, because I enlisted in a different branch of the military!"
Would a kid who falls for US military propaganda join the US military?? I think not.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Vib Rib posted:

Would a kid who falls for US military propaganda join the US military?? I think not.

the important thing is we all agree never to hire him

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
god is there any more human experience than 'this propaganda failed on me, I joined a different branch of the same military'? Like, that's just our dumb brains perfectly summed up.

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde
Good luck to the people who have to look at poop.
https://twitter.com/hellotushy/status/1491460875735244810

https://twitter.com/hellotushy/status/1491464433394237442

https://twitter.com/hellotushy/status/1491551953251405825

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗
Those guys definitely know how to stretch a small PR budget, Tushy was also in the running to get a custom advertisement skin into Fallguys when that game was exploding in popularity.
The Fallguy devs did a big charity donation/bidding war where the company with the biggest pledge could get a tie-in skin. Tushy was going to add a "Ask me about my butthole" t-shirt if they won and their final bid was $420,69. That rear end in a top hat internet personality Ninja outbid them. Streamers ruin everything they touch.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

At least she said gulag instead of gulash.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

I get ads for this thing all the time on Facebook (I’m the idiot for not just deleting Facebook) even though I have selected “hide all posts from Tushy” like three times

Freaquency
May 10, 2007

"Yes I can hear you, I don't have ear cancer!"

Henchman of Santa posted:

I get ads for this thing all the time on Facebook (I’m the idiot for not just deleting Facebook) even though I have selected “hide all posts from Tushy” like three times

Look, their check cleared and yours didn’t.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


today's furry drama is a furry convention with an owner with impeccable credentials

https://twitter.com/KikiDoodleTweet/status/1491268497007312896/photo/1

https://twitter.com/TrebleVandoren/status/1491283197447249922

i mean who just wanders into a conversation "yes, the person who stole $40k was me, and furthermore"

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Mx. posted:

today's furry drama is a furry convention with an owner with impeccable credentials

https://twitter.com/KikiDoodleTweet/status/1491268497007312896/photo/1

https://twitter.com/TrebleVandoren/status/1491283197447249922

i mean who just wanders into a conversation "yes, the person who stole $40k was me, and furthermore"
"How can I steal what is already mine?" combined with "former employees still have access to my system and are disgruntled" don't really build confidence either.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋


Do they want doo doo pics or not

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

"Oh no, please don't send me poop pics uwu 🥺"

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

sexpig by night posted:

Yea I'm pretty heavily forgiving of it because it clearly comes from Gygax just finding a cool religious mystic word and going 'aw yea that'll spice things up' and accidentally also invoking an extremely sacred part of a different culture for 'spoopy evil undead soul eating monster'. It's good to fix, I encourage groups to do the same because it changes nothing except removing an insensitive label, but at least it seems to be more genuine ignorance than actual bigotry which...sadly in table top RPGs is worth pointing out...

My group calls it The Soul Hole mainly because it also works in character to piss off most lich types by shouting at them to 'reveal The Soul Hole'.

I saw someone track down when phylacteries turned into just a legit "This is the Jewish thing, yes." For about two editions, it was "that word is neat," but if you know what one is, it became just the same exact item in 3E.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

five seconds on google translate: soul cage -> klouvipsychis

hire me wizards

Honestly, I think "reliquary" itself sounds cool enough. Honestly, I'm surprised Rowling went with "Horcrux" considering how willing she's been to step on every other bigoted rake.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Baron von Eevl posted:

At least she said gulag instead of gulash.

congrats, you're at least as clever as Marjorie's handlers probably!

https://twitter.com/repmtg/status/1491550813273141253?s=21

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Agents are GO! posted:

Honestly, I think "reliquary" itself sounds cool enough. Honestly, I'm surprised Rowling went with "Horcrux" considering how willing she's been to step on every other bigoted rake.

Yeah, I was gonna say, it's weird to find the one time Rowling avoided being racist.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



I remember one time an SA mod probed someone for posting a pic of poop in a toilet (which I guess the poster did as a protest or something), and in the probe reason it said something like:

"In order to submit a probation request, I have to go through about six pages of forms, all of which show a preview of the post which is being submitted, which means I had to look at the poop six times. I did not want to look at the poop any times."

That phrasing is stuck in my head forever

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Cleretic posted:

Yeah, I was gonna say, it's weird to find the one time Rowling avoided being racist.

I'm gonna guess it's either that she hadn't heard of the word phylactery in that context, or she had and found out it traced back to someone who was at the time still alive so she couldn't claim the idea as her own.

Zero_Grade
Mar 18, 2004

Darktider 🖤🌊

~Neck Angels~

Bugsy posted:

Good luck to the people who have to look at poop.
I'm not sure what forum/thread on SA it would fit best, but "It's literally 2 people with depression and ibs running this page." has got to be a relevant title for more than one.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Zero_Grade posted:

I'm not sure what forum/thread on SA it would fit best, but "It's literally 2 people with depression and ibs running this page." has got to be a relevant title for more than one.
New front page tagline tbh

aegof
Mar 2, 2011

CelticPredator posted:

Do they want doo doo pics or not

they only want the post superbowl poop, earlier poops dont count

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Scratch Monkey posted:

Who hosed the lich?!

the lich hosed me, TYVM

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Improbable Lobster posted:

the lich hosed me, TYVM

Nobody hosed the lich.



We made love!

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Guy who runs student calendar app is having a nuclear meltdown
https://twitter.com/Iwillleavenow/status/1491807242965848075

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
Motherfucker don't make promises you can't keep

Verdugo
Jan 5, 2009


Lipstick Apathy

Cleretic posted:

The Queen's gonna turn up played by a different actor.

Queen is a Timelord confirmed.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Verdugo posted:

Queen is a Timelord confirmed.

They have two hearts, not zero

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Mx. posted:

today's furry drama is a furry convention with an owner with impeccable credentials

https://twitter.com/KikiDoodleTweet/status/1491268497007312896/photo/1

https://twitter.com/TrebleVandoren/status/1491283197447249922

i mean who just wanders into a conversation "yes, the person who stole $40k was me, and furthermore"

Was this the same con that started because the previous big Denver furry con refused to kick out a group of nazis.

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"

Mx. posted:

today's furry drama is a furry convention with an owner with impeccable credentials

Ooh, I love convention drama. I will be following this.

I was kinda (naively, I'm sure) surprised when I learned a few years ago how MESSY furry drama can get.
https://twitter.com/shepardmutt/status/1354506162197020677

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Given the archetypical furry con drama was someone leaving lovely nappies all over the place I feel like it would be odd if it weren't messy.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Or a gas attack in the stairwell.

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Zero_Grade
Mar 18, 2004

Darktider 🖤🌊

~Neck Angels~

OwlFancier posted:

Given the archetypical furry con drama was someone leaving lovely nappies all over the place I feel like it would be odd if it weren't messy.
"Snoofin' some pamps" pops into my head unbidden about every two weeks, and I assume this will continue for the rest of my life.

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