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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Did you not ride your bike as a kid? Kids usually rode on the sidewalks where I grew up bikes riding on the sidewalk is an artifact of car brain in city planning (or in a just world, a temporary product of construction work or the like) bikes aren’t as dangerous to pedestrians as cars are to them, but in a world where auto-mobile conveyances have been successfully relegated to vital services and some kind of giant libraries on the outskirts of habitation one of the next transport safety concerns properly ought to be providing space to separate bikes and pedestrians in most places
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Atleast here, it's crazy how close to average "through town" car speed you.can get here on a pushbike , even just riding on the footpaths and with parking being an activity that takes time it might as well be parity of travel time. If the footpaths were kept in better condition , and wider I would almost be fine with just riding conservatively around pedestrians , almost. In other news, I went to a demonstration last night on my pushie and it was neat to take the streets and disrupt traffic for a good hour or so for a cause, very "whose streets our streets" feeling
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 22:16 |
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LonsomeSon posted:bikes riding on the sidewalk is an artifact of car brain in city planning (or in a just world, a temporary product of construction work or the like) Agreed .. I think lol Just saying, the kind of bike riding that kids do isn't as dangerous as the cycling adults do. Lower speeds, less distance covered, and predominantly on sidewalks/bike paths. So I wouldn't have any issues w my kid riding their bike even in this car centric hellscape.
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 22:19 |
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Did you not ride your bike as a kid? Kids usually rode on the sidewalks where I grew up This probably isn't helped when people are now driving huge SUVs that have terrible lines of sight. also, sidewalks don't really connect continuously in any sane way in a lot of place I think in most of the us people just aren't going to let kids bike on their own nowadays even if they stick the the sidewalk even where it used to be common. mystes has issued a correction as of 22:27 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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What's a pushbike?
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 22:23 |
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the suburb i grew up in only had sidewalks on major streets lol
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 22:23 |
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Cat Puke posted:What's a pushbike? It's also crazy the degree to which kids just aren't allowed to even walk beyond their house on their own at all now in the US. mystes has issued a correction as of 22:28 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Cat Puke posted:What's a pushbike? Sorry, bit of the local patois , just a bicycle
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 22:33 |
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mystes posted:Sidewalks can be pretty dangerous because of people entering/exiting driveways at high speeds without looking for pedestrians/cyclists. maybe we have regional differences in this stuff but where I live in the Midwest people don't peel out of their garages lol. Nor do they enter them at high speeds only to slam on the brakes immediately but it is a funny thing to Imagine. Idk when I was a kid we would ride to school, friends houses and to the park. Seemed safe enough that I would let my kid do it if I had one but that was 20 years ago, so maybe things have changed a bunch.
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 22:41 |
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:maybe we have regional differences in this stuff but where I live in the Midwest people don't peel out of their garages lol. Nor do they enter them at high speeds only to slam on the brakes immediately but it is a funny thing to Imagine.
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 22:54 |
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I grew up in the country and would bike around with other kids on the road, but I think drivers have gotten more violent in the past 30 years. The vehicles are definitely much bigger.
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 23:04 |
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"acoustic bike" is the proper term for a non-electric
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 23:39 |
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:maybe we have regional differences in this stuff but where I live in the Midwest people don't peel out of their garages lol. Nor do they enter them at high speeds only to slam on the brakes immediately but it is a funny thing to Imagine. Crosswalks also intersect with side streets, so that's a problem even if people didn't pull into their driveways at high speed.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Did you not ride your bike as a kid? Kids usually rode on the sidewalks where I grew up I rode my bike a LOT as a kid and teenager, from middle school all the way through high school. I always rode on the sidewalk because it was manifestly obvious that riding on the street was suicidally insane.
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 23:46 |
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Jestery posted:Sorry, bit of the local patois , just a bicycle aww, i was imagining some kind of weird standing bike with hand pedals
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# ? Feb 9, 2022 23:59 |
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LonsomeSon posted:aww, i was imagining some kind of weird standing bike with hand pedals Hell yeah every time you commute it's arm day
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 00:04 |
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Cugel the Clever posted:"acoustic bike" is the proper term for a non-electric
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I grew up in the country and would bike around with other kids on the road, but I think drivers have gotten more violent in the past 30 years. The vehicles are definitely much bigger. vehicles are larger, heavier, far more powerful and tend to have a higher center of gravity than 30 years ago tires, brakes and suspensions have come a long way in that time too, but once they started putting big dick motors into almost every car in the last 10 years things have gotten really lovely https://www.statista.com/chart/17194/pedestrian-fatalities-in-the-us-by-year/ also over the last 40 years the average distance driven by Americans has more than doubled, to an average of over 14k miles per year Filthy Hans has issued a correction as of 00:46 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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Riding a bike around near my house in the late 80s and early 90s as a kid felt pretty safe. The drivers would slow down, smile and wave at me. I knew all of my neighbors, people weren't quite as psychotic and disconnected from everything around them. Most of the cars were small cars and trucks, the biggest cars I remember were vans. Maybe I was just a dumb kid and am developing rose tinted boomer goggles, and I didn't understand the danger I was in, but it definitely seems way worse now
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Filthy Hans posted:vehicles are larger, heavier, far more powerful and tend to have a higher center of gravity than 30 years ago Also, there's basically no penalty for murder as long as you use your car to do it.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 00:52 |
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Cat Puke posted:Crosswalks also intersect with side streets, so that's a problem even if people didn't pull into their driveways at high speed. yeah that's what I think they meant to write but it's really funny to imagine someone mashing the accelerator to pull out of the garage into the street. The inverse is also hilarious, someone speeding into their 30ft driveway just to slam on the brakes and screech to a halt in their garage Cup Runneth Over posted:I rode my bike a LOT as a kid and teenager, from middle school all the way through high school. I always rode on the sidewalk because it was manifestly obvious that riding on the street was suicidally insane. yeah same and thinking about it, everyone stopped once we hit driving age Some of the nicer neighborhoods had friggin blacktop paths that were tarred smooth .. Just an absolute dream to ride on.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 03:07 |
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The trucking protest are humming about blocking traffic in LA during the Superbowl. Trucking is a fake job.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 04:48 |
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I'm of two minds about bicycles and pedestrians. Riding on the sidewalk is much safer than riding in traffic in most situations, at least in places with no bike lane and traffic that's multi-lane and 35mph+. OTOH, we tried to take a 2 year old on a walk on a path in the country and gave up on it because 2 year olds like to dart around unpredictably, and all the cyclists kept wizzing by us without slowing down, so we picked the kiddo up and left rather than have to worry about him getting run over. And this wasn't like it was a path that was in town or lead anywhere so it's not like we were interfering with commuters.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 05:21 |
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That's what happens when bike riders are infected with car brain
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 05:25 |
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mystes posted:That's what happens when bike riders are infected with car brain I think that's what happens when bikes become a recreational toy versus being looked at as a legitimate form of transportation.
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The self-driving cars are programmed to lunge at cyclists. https://twitter.com/omedyentral/status/1491146820097298433
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PeterCat posted:I'm of two minds about bicycles and pedestrians. Riding on the sidewalk is much safer than riding in traffic in most situations, at least in places with no bike lane and traffic that's multi-lane and 35mph+. hosed up to do around a kid imho, they are riding loving bikes they could wait to be a little bit away
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PeterCat posted:OTOH, we tried to take a 2 year old on a walk on a path in the country and gave up on it because 2 year olds like to dart around unpredictably, and all the cyclists kept wizzing by us without slowing down, so we picked the kiddo up and left rather than have to worry about him getting run over. Part of being a Cugel the Clever has issued a correction as of 06:22 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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mystes posted:That's what happens when bike riders are infected with car brain Absolutely I am a massive supporter of the UK road heirachical thingo Simplest , most consistent blanket rule Seeing dickheads on a footpath racing by , or trying to force their way through? idiots. If there are pedestrians I will happily dismount and go to the grass to ease passing. Like I am the idiot with a 20kg steel frame here. Speeding back up is a non issue, just get off let everyone safely pass and speed back up , it take like 10 seconds to hop back on and be back up to speed.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 06:14 |
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Lmao why the gently caress couldn't they have had a bicycle roundabout in that pedestrian area on the level under the road surface? I can't find a good picture of it right now but they have exactly that type of infrastructure in Rotorua, NZ: There's a roundabout at the top which is the start of a motorway, and there's a separate bicycle and pedestrian roundabout in the middle beneath the road surface. It owns because it's near a huge mountain bike park and a holiday park (caravan park), so we routinely camp at the holiday park and ride our bikes on the cycleway a km or so to the mountain bike trails without ever having to go on the road. As far as shared bicycle and pedestrian paths go, I honestly think that bicycles and pedestrians should be separated in the majority of cases the same way that cars and bicycles should be separated. There's too much of a speed difference there, and to be fair to cyclists I see a lot of pedestrians being selfish too, like walking in a big clump totally blocking the path and refusing to move for passing bicycles.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 07:03 |
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PeterCat posted:I'm of two minds about bicycles and pedestrians. Riding on the sidewalk is much safer than riding in traffic in most situations, at least in places with no bike lane and traffic that's multi-lane and 35mph+. I would usually just hop off the sidewalk and onto the street to pass a pedestrian, then hop back up.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 07:10 |
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"Nothing could have prevented this," says nation inured to the daily slaughter of innocents. https://twitter.com/BrooklynSpoke/status/1491632791234265089?t=xd8VH0AFKlhMPmYrtdmZ0g&s=19 article posted:An out-of-control driver plowed into a woman and a 10-year-old girl, killing the youngster, before slamming into a shuttered car wash in Queens Wednesday afternoon, police and witnesses said.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 07:51 |
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gently caress cars, and gently caress SUVs
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 07:55 |
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An idea: You know all those poll-tests and poll-taxes etc that they used to disenfranchise voters back in the day? Let's bring them back, but for drivers.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 08:23 |
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Sounds like she just mashed the accelerator to get into a gap, panicked and pushed harder. Maybe most cars don't need to go from 0 to 60 in less than half the time they did 10 years ago IDK? That's what concerns me most about a lot of EV's, their only real 'party piece' is accelerating really fast in a straight line, so the car makers are competing with each other by juicing that number.
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 08:24 |
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0-60 should take 1 minute and it should be impossible to go any faster
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 08:56 |
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802.11weed posted:0-60 should take 1 minute and it should be impossible to go any faster same but km/h
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 09:06 |
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Pictured: a pushbike
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 09:10 |
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I think our Amish friends would take exception to calling that a bike, that's clearly a scooter!
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Pictured: a pull bike
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# ? Feb 10, 2022 09:53 |