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Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

someone should tell the aliens to read some marx

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Jazerus
May 24, 2011


i am harry posted:

if I was a nature documentary film maker and I came across a group of animals slowly dying and spending their lives in abject suffering because of two animals in the group, I’d just kill those two animals.
the fact that aliens aren’t doing that makes me lose a ton of respect

here's a parable from biology research for you

once there was a troop of apes. they had a typical ape hierarchy with a bunch of rear end in a top hat males at the top stealing all of the best food, and based on examination of their waste and other stuff, it seemed that the stress levels of the apes who weren't at the top was through the roof basically all the time. then, their normal food sources ran low. the rear end in a top hat apes decided that the best food around was a bunch of rancid poo poo in a hotel dumpster, which they ate. then they all died. because they had hoarded the dumpster food the other apes did not die and managed to find some bananas or whatever once the rear end in a top hat apes were gone. all of their stress levels went way down and the culture of the troop was permanently altered. they no longer tolerated assholes or hierarchy, and in fact if apes from other troops came by and tried to create a hierarchy, they beat the poo poo out of them until they either left or stopped trying to be assholes. to this day, they live a very different and happier lifestyle than every other ape of their species.

idk this doesn't have anything to do with birds really but i've always thought it was a cool story

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



Wheeee posted:

someone should tell the aliens to read some marx

human tainted thinking here but i feel that a civ which doesnt care about ALL its parts has no hope of joining the game.
sadly this rules us out.

it dont have to be Marxism or Socialism but i dont think you get space elevators and taxis unless upwards of 90% of the population demands it.

i am just spitballing but if you ask 100 people would they contribute pennies to bird poo poo 80 of them would tell you to gently caress off, im hungry, im in fear, i have no dignity, gently caress space and gently caress you

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Sleekly posted:

murphys laws apply all across the multiverse

all the millions of light years here without a hitch then a stupid problem presents

actually there was a theory that so many birds, despite their prowess, struggle with the way Earths inner atmosphere magnetic field changes all the time. a problem largely invisible to all but a couple instruments on our aircraft but if your whole engine setup relies on a stable magnetic field as a base....then trawling around in low Earth atmosphere is gonna gently caress you up

https://v.redd.it/54y30zr592h81

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

We polled the everyday spaceants of proxima 3 on their thoughts about the exploitative nature of their social heirarchy and their opinions of the immortal science. The results will shock you!

"Human minds are inherently crippled" memory complex +5+8b---7+, 25 trillion members, stated when reached for comment "Marxism is a mechanism, like a multiplication table, to train a brain to circumvent this handicap. The people of proxima are on a different path." Many share this view, but others question why the giant ants need to mercilessly exploit their worker caste, urging a blockade of the proxima system,

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

"They're miserable but they just keep going without changing anything. Their capacity for abuse would be admirable if it wasn't so deeply depressing"

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Look you are a dogmatic idiot if you need aliens to be Marxist or whatever but lets assume that any civ capable of transcending meat sleeve slavery has at some level overcome the egotistical selfishness that manifests unequal systems like capitalism, or enjoy an existence for which there is zero need to police distribution of labor and property either way because it is decidedly meaningless

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



Riot Bimbo posted:

Look you are a dogmatic idiot if you need aliens to be Marxist or whatever but lets assume that any civ capable of transcending meat sleeve slavery has at some level overcome the egotistical selfishness that manifests unequal systems like capitalism, or enjoy an existence for which there is zero need to police distribution of labor and property either way because it is decidedly meaningless

yeah but you dont get there without care, not as a commodity but as an actual force in the world. not for brownie points or a tax deduction but as a real framework to work within that isnt just lip service

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

*straining my star-size 8-dimensional megabrain after having witnessed tens of thousands of human generations live and a thousand civilizations rise and fall*

HEY, subjugated worker drone, maybe take some fuckin personal responsibility for the massive scale industrial processes destroying your planet, you ever think of that, idiot? PEACE

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Wheeee posted:

*straining my star-size 8-dimensional megabrain after having witnessed tens of thousands of human generations live and a thousand civilizations rise and fall*

HEY, subjugated worker drone, maybe take some fuckin personal responsibility for the massive scale industrial processes destroying your planet, you ever think of that, idiot? PEACE

Yeah I'm back on team "gently caress you, peanuts"
Project gratitude - don't think so, project my rear end at the sky and see who makes contact

chainchompz
Jul 15, 2021

bark bark
I feel like that poster was a bot or someone farming Reddit karma. On the off chance they were telling the truth and not just having a sleep paralysis hallucination, lol just lol at the idea that they think some random peon is going to upend an entrenched system that has power, finances, and state sanctioned violence backing it up.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


that's how it historically goes when it happens though?

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Yeah, Zimbabwe for instance.

Maybe aliens sincerely cannot fathom the evils of capitalism/global hegemony by a military state

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


just because you're a bird doesn't mean you're smart

chainchompz
Jul 15, 2021

bark bark
Sure, changes big and small have to start somewhere.
I really think it's more likely the guy heard and saw what he wanted to hear while in that state rather than aliens rolling up and telling him some things he likely already knew and felt about the world. Like, thanks for the reminder, ETs, but we're going to need more help than that.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


if you don't wanna deal with a bunch of mollified heads of state and a vicious as gently caress and inhuman MIC you basically have no choice but to agitate from the ground up, but like oh god what a reason to get disappeared; some rear end in a top hat in the cia astral division snitching you out to the fort bragg brute crew to get canoe-suicided would suck

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
so the moon is the size of the us, canada, and russia combined, & it's hypothetically possible to purify regolith into enormous glass panels, so we should just greenhouse the whole thing to like 250m up and export the excess carbon dioxide from our atmosphere to there. Sprinkle on some lichens or whatever random bullshit seeds and stuff from random spots on earth. There's basically no possible way this could ever be a mistake. Lack of vision imo.

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


Jazerus posted:

just because you're a bird doesn't mean you're smart

what do u call a bird that gets all D's in space school






dr aitee

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


they're here

https://i.imgur.com/faLwAJ3.mp4

Fly Ricky
May 7, 2009

The Wine Taster

WEH posted:

anybody here read A Trojan Feast? it came up on the latest our strange skies (I think?) and it sounds fun

It’s very good. As with all of Kutchin’s books he has done an exhaustive amount of research. Most his stuff I have to take a break from at some point because I only have so much interest in faerie food, kids getting stolen in the night, etc.

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008




lets introduce them to voltron

papersack
Jul 27, 2003


LOST

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Sleekly posted:

lets introduce them to voltron
so, about that ...

fanfic insert
Nov 4, 2009

Slavvy posted:

Meat isn't doing that, it's dysfunctional monkey toy addiction caused by the blind alley.

No you wouldn't. You literally wouldn't, you'd see the two tortoises making the rest miserable and declare that nature is cruel but it must be allowed to take it's course and it would be wrong to interfere, and you likely don't have the full picture, and maybe the misery is a natural part of their life cycle?

Then you get those sweet sweet subs.



My speculation for the weird messaging: either they don't 'care' in a concerted sense, and each message is just the equivalent of randomly yelling at a homeless guy to get a job cause the mood struck you, or they simply don't understand human psychology.

I like the latter explanation; we tend to assume that having super high tech makes you super capable in every way, but how many monkey psychology experts have they got, compared to say warp drive mechanics or anal probe pilots? What if everything we're seeing is an attempt to figure out how to even talk to us as a species on a basic level because our psychology or social structure is so foreign or unusual in some way? They can see the general state of things and how hosed we are but they don't understand our thinking well enough to know how to best intervene.

The UAP's imply a certain level of technical capability, we just assume they have equal capability in other fields, but it could well be that they have never bothered or needed to investigate certain things that seem basic to us and it's creating a contextual problem for them when dealing with us.

I bet they're all very upset we just refuse to respond. Even the calmest and most receptive among just sit there and stare blankly. What a bunch of idiots. Literally sees life from another sphere and just stares, not even a mediocre amount of curiosity detected.

fanfic insert
Nov 4, 2009

skooma512 posted:

I like how there's a sci-fi trope where aliens are kept secret by human government, and even somewhat beholden to them.

It's kinda like if you went to teach a kindergarten class and the biggest kid stood up and said "No! We're not doing math! I forbid it!". This is of course the same kid that hogs all the toys and hurts people and animals when no one is looking.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Let's all make a promise that if we ever make contact we're not just gonna let them lecture us. Just immediately cut them off and explain how democracies look like things people can change things in but in actuality we are slaves to capital and its whims

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

https://i.imgur.com/K61ybnX.mp4
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/spi4fq/ufo_over_northern_norway_yesterday_no_sound/

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

I saw a different video of this on the reddit earlier

I wanna say meteorite, but then it turns into a weird blob at the end???

EDIT yeah, here it is
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/spfny2/uap_ufo_or_russian_hypersonic_missile/

It splits into two in this one

EDIT EDIT

and another angle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdsgkpp5WdE

Barry Foster has issued a correction as of 13:33 on Feb 11, 2022

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Barry Foster posted:

I saw a different video of this on the reddit earlier

I wanna say meteorite, but then it turns into a weird blob at the end???

Whatever it is, it's neat as hell

e:
ya beat me with the links

but still hell yeah, I like this thing

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
https://i.imgur.com/SSv5Q3b.mp4

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Let's all make a promise that if we ever make contact we're not just gonna let them lecture us. Just immediately cut them off and explain how democracies look like things people can change things in but in actuality we are slaves to capital and its whims

And you wonder why et never calls you up. Nobody wants to listen to a delusional mentally deranged monkey rant about whatever they imagine is a problem. They want good content they can share with their friends. Like underdog Jamaican bobsled teams, ferrets riding robot vacuums, and amateur art with heart.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Sextro posted:

And you wonder why et never calls you up. Nobody wants to listen to a delusional mentally deranged monkey rant about whatever they imagine is a problem. They want good content they can share with their friends. Like underdog Jamaican bobsled teams, ferrets riding robot vacuums, and amateur art with heart.

What if I started trashing the room/yelling like in Citizen Kane or the speech from Network

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
meditating. suddenly, time slows down. an orb appears before me. one word is emphatically beamed into my head:

"vote"

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

What if I started trashing the room/yelling like in Citizen Kane or the speech from Network

maybe if you had a really funny hat? :confuoot:

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

aliens are real and they're here :dance:

but they're succ libs :gonk:

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


outside smoking. suddenly, time slows down. an orb appears before me. one phrase is emphatically beamed into my head:

"pokemon go to the polls”

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
Is there a reading list for this thread?

EDIT: I will accept Woo.

Perry Mason Jar has issued a correction as of 15:44 on Feb 11, 2022

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Is there a reading list for this thread?

EDIT: I will accept Woo.

Not so much reading but you can definitely join some of us on the hemi-sync adventures.


I just got up to Wave III which is the start of OBE stuff.
I was feeling very down in the dumps this morning so I reached out for anything to reveal itself/its intentions and I saw a glowing slender figure and a bunch of white orbs hovering around my couch (and my glowing white orb-self) and while it's almost certainly just my brain manifesting what it wants to see, I do feel much better.

Huzzah, Dr. Monroe.

global tetrahedron
Jun 24, 2009

https://twitter.com/thoreauawhelan/status/1491846556923924481?s=21

https://twitter.com/thoreauawhelan/status/1491947756864299023?s=21

https://twitter.com/thoreauawhelan/status/1491947892487118855?s=21

lol

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Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Not so much reading but you can definitely join some of us on the hemi-sync adventures.

Explain?

I tried doing astral projection a long time ago now. I've tried again since but not with the same discipline and vigor (one-offs). My experiments ended last time when I couldn't get past the "vibration" phase. Vibration my rear end felt like I was being swung in a hammock across the length of the room. You try staying calm through that. Anyway I should try again, yes yes. Any techniques the thread favors?

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