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mobby_6kl posted:does it help normalize choosing your pronouns or someting?
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Feb 10, 2022 16:12
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I would argue that its more useful than Mr./Ms./Mrs. which we've used for ages despite not knowing or needing to know somebody's marital status 99% of the time.
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Feb 10, 2022 16:19
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mobby_6kl posted:A bit late to the trans question but this just came up. Yesterday I saw that a lady has her pronouns listed in the email signature. Like "Alice Jones. She, her, hers". I don't want to make any assumptions but if the signature wasn't there, I don't think there'd be any ambiguiuty about the pronouns. I've seen other cis people say that before too. Is this supposed to be helpful, does it help normalize choosing your pronouns or someting? Would it help if a bearded, bald guy introduced himself as "Hi I'm John. He/him/his"? Feels like that'd be weird, as if it's mocking the it. My understanding, as a cis guy, is that it's to normalize providing pronouns, yes. If the only people who provide pronouns are trans or nonbinary, then people who providing pronouns are essentially outing themselves as members of an oppressed group, and potentially inviting further discrimination. If everyone provides pronouns, even when it's "obvious", then it helps protect the people for whom it's not "obvious". Moreover, it hopefully encourages people to think more in terms of how other people want to be addressed, as opposed to how they present.
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Feb 10, 2022 16:24
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The main issue with it is when it is mandatory or there's social pressure for everyone to do it, which means that trans people who may not be out yet are forced to decide between declaring their transness or lying about their pronouns. And then it's difficult to walk a line of like, this is a good thing to do but not if everyone does it?
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Feb 10, 2022 16:24
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Thanks for all the salary/hourly answers! I should have clarified that they're both WFH positions, so it sort of sounds like there wouldn't be much change in my daily routine (depending on company policies, of course).
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Feb 10, 2022 16:31
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Fruits of the sea posted:I would argue that its more useful than Mr./Ms./Mrs. which we've used for ages despite not knowing or needing to know somebody's marital status 99% of the time. I only recently learned that Ms. vs Mrs. used to be a big drat deal in the US in like the 80s and earlier. Like if a newspaper interviewed a college professor about their area of expertise they would end the interview by asking if she was married so they could use the correct title in the interview. If she refused to clarify they wouldn't run the interview because of "best practices". A lot of stuff clicked into place when I learned that. wash bucket fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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Feb 10, 2022 17:04
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How would they get it wrong with Ms. though? Doesn't that explicitly exist for people who refuse to clarify?
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Feb 10, 2022 18:17
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Flipperwaldt posted:How would they get it wrong with Ms. though? Doesn't that explicitly exist for people who refuse to clarify? Apparently at the time 'Ms.' just meant unmarried and its use as an unspecified title is a surprisingly recent development. There are NY Times opinion pieces from the 80s arguing against that use. Ms Isn't Sweeping the Nation The Foes of Miss/Mrs. Find quote:Subject of Controversy That article from the 70s makes it sound like 'Ms.' was barely a thing at all. quote:A spokesman for the New York Telephone Company said customers would be addressed and billed “any way they wish,” and a representative of Chemical Bank of New York said the bank had no objection to opening accounts with an Ms preceding the name. So far there have been no requests. Sounds like the they/them issue of its time. wash bucket fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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Feb 10, 2022 18:24
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I learned in school in the 90s about "proper" use of Ms./Mrs. (and I think Miss, pronounced Mizz, was for unknown?) and even as a 10 year old or whatever I was like what the gently caress I gotta find out if everyone's married?? I was very relieved to find out later that few people cared anymore and it had been on its way out. Anyway apparently even my teacher got it wrong and Ms was the ambiguous one all along.
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Feb 10, 2022 18:41
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Huh. I didn't know any of that.
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Feb 10, 2022 18:49
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Meeee either. Kinda feels like something that should be taught and not forgotten since it would inform a lot of modern day issues.
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Feb 10, 2022 18:50
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mobby_6kl posted:A bit late to the trans question but this just came up. Yesterday I saw that a lady has her pronouns listed in the email signature. Like "Alice Jones. She, her, hers". I don't want to make any assumptions but if the signature wasn't there, I don't think there'd be any ambiguiuty about the pronouns. I've seen other cis people say that before too. Is this supposed to be helpful, does it help normalize choosing your pronouns or someting? Would it help if a bearded, bald guy introduced himself as "Hi I'm John. He/him/his"? Feels like that'd be weird, as if it's mocking it. At my work, the only people I know who have them are the HR department and a few people who are outspoken leftists. It's there to promote openness and inclusion. The only transperson at my work who I'm close with doesn't use them because she doesn't care which people use.
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Feb 10, 2022 18:53
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I work in a large corporate environment first in training and now in leadership, and almost everyone at my job lists their pronouns in zoom and email sigs. I’ve had many non-binary and trans folks give extremely positive feedback, and our thought is that by normalizing it, calls less attention to someone who may have “different” pronouns and would be singled out by sharing. When I meet new people at work I always intro my pronouns so there is no ambiguity or guessing and if the occasional person gets pissy over how “liberalized” our company is these days I just pinpoint them as someone I won’t be promoting to my team.  E: and yeah it’s definitely not mandatory for the reasons already mentioned, for sake of not forcing someone to choose between coming out or displaying incorrect pronouns. LuckyCat fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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Feb 10, 2022 18:58
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Some folks in our company list pronouns because we work with teams in different countries and it can be hard to infer genders from first names you've never heard before.
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Feb 10, 2022 19:00
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Why do two out of three Tinder bios make a point to include a section where they marvel about tacos? Maybe this is a PNW thing but I just moved a hundred miles away and it hasn't changed.
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Feb 10, 2022 19:12
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credburn posted:Why do two out of three Tinder bios make a point to include a section where they marvel about tacos? I noticed this too when I was on Tinder last year. Saw it a lot in east Texas bios and it got even worse the further south down 79 I went. Made for some good trolling opportunities tho, where you tell Austin boys you heard the tacos here are real good then send pics of your cheesy gordita crunch lunch
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Feb 10, 2022 19:27
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McCracAttack posted:Some folks in our company list pronouns because we work with teams in different countries and it can be hard to infer genders from first names you've never heard before. Or from names you have heard before! Casey, Alex, Dakota, Brooklyn, Avery, Dylan, Taylor, Peyton, Ashton, Harper, Reese, etc.
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Feb 10, 2022 19:50
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McCracAttack posted:Some folks in our company list pronouns because we work with teams in different countries and it can be hard to infer genders from first names you've never heard before. LOL I could seriously use this sometimes.
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Feb 10, 2022 20:50
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What's a quick way to wet-clean my linoleum kitchen floor? Just looking for something to hold me over when it doesn't quite need the full mop and bucket treatment. Swiffer wet jet?
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Feb 10, 2022 22:16
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Bucket and a sponge mop thing on a stick? Swiffers loving suck and are super wasteful
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Feb 10, 2022 22:25
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Dry sweeping is really easy and gets most stuff up, and you can spot clean any wet-mess/sticky/stainy spots with rag + vinegar or cleaning spray or whatever your mess cleanup method of choice is. If there are too many such spots for you to get down and wipe it up by hand, it's probably time for a full mopping anyway 
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Feb 10, 2022 22:30
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It's fine for stating pronouns to be normalised but lots of workplaces seem to do it and then smugly congratulate themselves that they are supporting their gender nonconforming colleagues and nothing materially changes to make it easier for trans and enby people. By itself it does very very little to make me feel safe or supported.
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Feb 10, 2022 23:02
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Human Tornada posted:What's a quick way to wet-clean my linoleum kitchen floor? Just looking for something to hold me over when it doesn't quite need the full mop and bucket treatment. Swiffer wet jet? Mop with reusable pads is by far the superior choice. Use with a spray bottle of cleaning whatever; the ones that have the built-in sprayer clog eventually.
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Feb 10, 2022 23:29
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alright, i'm trying to remember the name of a program from the windows xp days. it was basically a dedicated ad displayer that sat atop your windows taskbar. it'd rotate through ads while you were using your computer. and every month or three months or something, they'd literally send you a check for however many ads you watched. i've googled to no avail.
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Feb 11, 2022 00:19
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I'm 99.9% confident there was an ad on tv like 20-30 years ago featuring the roman god mercury (the fast one with wings on his helmet), and when he looks at the bottom of his feet they are tire treads. obviously for a tire company but I don't remember which one. anyone?
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Feb 11, 2022 03:52
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actionjackson posted:I'm 99.9% confident there was an ad on tv like 20-30 years ago featuring the roman god mercury (the fast one with wings on his helmet), and when he looks at the bottom of his feet they are tire treads. obviously for a tire company but I don't remember which one. anyone? Most likely Goodyear, since their logo is the winged shoes.
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Feb 11, 2022 03:57
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yes possible, still no hits though. i think the ad was pretty much in black/white. might also be pirelli?
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Feb 11, 2022 04:05
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abelwingnut posted:alright, i'm trying to remember the name of a program from the windows xp days. it was basically a dedicated ad displayer that sat atop your windows taskbar. it'd rotate through ads while you were using your computer. and every month or three months or something, they'd literally send you a check for however many ads you watched. It's on the tip of my tongue. It was a compound word, like EasyPay or ClickCash (not either of those, though).
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Feb 11, 2022 04:13
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What's the etiquette for adoption a stray cat? There's a new cat in my neighborhood, with no collar and I want it in my life super bad, also it and my dog seem to like one another, or at least be interested in one another. There's a lady down the street who takes care of some of the strays in the neighborhood, I suppose that would be a good place to start. Edit:  
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Feb 11, 2022 14:27
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Sometimes it's really hard to tell the difference between a stray cat and somebody's outdoor cat who isn't shy about getting fed by multiple families.
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Feb 11, 2022 14:34
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Put a tag on it with a note asking if it belongs to anybody. Could add some contact info if you don't mind being called up by crazy cat people. E: The suggestion below is good! I would do it as a final step if nobody replied or removed the collar after a week. Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Feb 11, 2022 |
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Feb 11, 2022 14:41
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dog nougat posted:What's the etiquette for adoption a stray cat? In addition to the note idea, you can try taking it to a vet or your local animal shelter and have them check if it has an ID chip.
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Feb 11, 2022 14:43
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regulargonzalez posted:It's on the tip of my tongue. It was a compound word, like EasyPay or ClickCash (not either of those, though). i feel like it had the word ‘star’ or ‘advantage’ in it maybe? i’ve searched quite a bit now and really can’t find any mention of it.
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Feb 11, 2022 15:08
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 pretty sure you're thinking of Swagbucks
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Feb 11, 2022 15:16
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^^^ Those don't sound familiar at all, I don't think they are the early 2000s apps. I tried one of them back in the day but since I had to pay per minute for my dial-up connection, it never made sense. Speaking of pets, the neighbor lady knocked on my door just now and complained that there's a mouse in our staircase, and that she was afraid and didn't like it. I was sure this was just a movie cliche and adults weren't really scared of tiny mice. Is this really common? But there indeed was a mouse on our 4th floor, tiny little brown guy:  I caught it in an old bin but now what. I don't have a snake so do I just dump it outside? Can I keep it and have it help with cooking?
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Feb 11, 2022 15:18
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mobby_6kl posted:^^^ I think that's a shrew
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Feb 11, 2022 15:20
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abelwingnut posted:i feel like it had the word ‘star’ or ‘advantage’ in it maybe? i’ve searched quite a bit now and really can’t find any mention of it.  
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Feb 11, 2022 15:23
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wow, '99. is this the one where people were adjusting their CRTs to push the ads outside the viewable area?
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Feb 11, 2022 15:29
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that’s it. thank you!
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 yeah that's the one I remember from back thenSlimy Hog posted:I think that's a shrew Huh I think you're right. I didn't know such a thing even existed until now but it is very small and has this long nose which I don't think is usual for mice.
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