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Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

Frosted Flake posted:

I’m glad I’m not crazy at seeing the Colour Revolution similarities.

But organized by who? What is pushing this organized and funded attack on the centralized Canadian state?

the name of the author escapes me, but fascism has been described, and I think most accurately, as the tools of colonial violence coming home to the metropole


I think we are seeing the methods of colour revolutions being assimilated into the broader rightwing via general memetic osmosis, and this is happening without the need of direct intelligence assistance.

The technology for color revolutions is now available to the masses.

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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

the name of the author escapes me, but fascism has been described, and I think most accurately, as the tools of colonial violence coming home to the metropole


I think we are seeing the methods of colour revolutions being assimilated into the broader rightwing via general memetic osmosis, and this is happening without the need of direct intelligence assistance.

The technology for color revolutions is now available to the masses.

sounds like michael novick

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27/074.html

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Paxton’s Anatomy of Fascism also says it’s capital using the language of class war to fire up the Lumpen and Petty Boug against nebulous elites that are holding back the national destiny.

skewetoo
Mar 30, 2003

Word on chud twitter is Ford is going to announce scrapping vax passport this morning. One easy trick to get whatever you want!

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

skewetoo posted:

Word on chud twitter is Ford is going to announce scrapping vax passport this morning. One easy trick to get whatever you want!

hhahahahaha no
lmao

Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009

skewetoo posted:

Word on chud twitter is Ford is going to announce scrapping vax passport this morning. One easy trick to get whatever you want!

Time to get the borders shut down until reservations get clean drinking water....... Just a second there's 10 police at the door.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
https://twitter.com/ColinDMello/status/1492110468583985153?s=20&t=8RKXf4ExG5sXgPkq3BTjkA

the coward doug ford is emerging from hiding today

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

skewetoo posted:

Word on chud twitter is Ford is going to announce scrapping vax passport this morning. One easy trick to get whatever you want!

I've pointed this out before, but Doug consistently looks at what Jason Kenney is doing and does the opposite. Chud twitter is about to be disappointed.

thunderspanks
Nov 5, 2003

crucify this



if he sees his shadow it means 6 more weeks of occupation

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

Another Bill posted:

I've pointed this out before, but Doug consistently looks at what Jason Kenney is doing and does the opposite. Chud twitter is about to be disappointed.

yeah the general sentiment in ON across all political stripes seems to be "gently caress these convoy idiots" and dougie seems really committed to getting re-elected so i seriously doubt he'll be doing anything in support of it at this point

federal cons are flip flopping now on this too

thunderspanks posted:

if he sees his shadow it means 6 more weeks of occupation

lol

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



do you think he positions his body so he can see his dick shadow beyond his gut? barely poking out but at least it's there, right

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

The idea of fascism being colonialism coming back to the metropole goes back to at least Arendt, though some voice in the back of my head is telling me that someone else got there first.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Cold on a Cob posted:

yeah the general sentiment in ON across all political stripes seems to be "gently caress these convoy idiots" and dougie seems really committed to getting re-elected so i seriously doubt he'll be doing anything in support of it at this point

federal cons are flip flopping now on this too

lol

I'm pretty sure all politicians in Toronto and Ottawa are currently getting very angry phone calls from auto industry CEOs telling them to end this now or get ratfucked

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
:rolleye:

Futanari Damacy has issued a correction as of 16:54 on Feb 11, 2022

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
The only way these protests get fixed is from a sniper perch…….IN MINECRAFT!!

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

that’s who I was thinking of, thanks

Frosted Flake posted:

Paxton’s Anatomy of Fascism also says it’s capital using the language of class war to fire up the Lumpen and Petty Boug against nebulous elites that are holding back the national destiny.

that’s the rhetorical method, but the actual structure is exactly that of colonial repression, or extremely similar, and for all the talk about taking on the elites, the actual elites are always preserved and given usually inordinate amounts of control over economic output

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjEClc4hAo

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

that’s who I was thinking of, thanks

that’s the rhetorical method, but the actual structure is exactly that of colonial repression, or extremely similar, and for all the talk about taking on the elites, the actual elites are always preserved and given usually inordinate amounts of control over economic output

This is actually a big advantage of Paxton's approach to defining fascism imo, he neatly hurdles the classic "the Nazis were socialists" strawman by saying to ignore fascist rhetoric and look at what fascists actually do when they get into power, and then chronicles how they allied with big business and crushed labour. Fascism is perfectly happy to ally with its national capitalist elites because its fundamental analysis of society is based on races and nations rather than classes, so it envisions a society where workers and capitalists are harmoniously united by their shared German/Canadian/white/whatever racial or national identity rather than divided by their relationship to the means of production.

This is also imo the best way to explain the difference between fascism and socialism to people who have never been taught about it past the surface-level condemnation our education system provides (both were authoritarian, genocidal, illiberal, etc., therefore both are the same), because it's pretty clear to see that one ideology is a movement of racial/national unity across class boundaries and the other is a movement of class unity across racial/national boundaries, which then leads to very different outcomes when fascists and socialists take power.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Hand Knit posted:

The idea of fascism being colonialism coming back to the metropole goes back to at least Arendt, though some voice in the back of my head is telling me that someone else got there first.

most of her stuff i read had to do with the idea of mass culture, but i don't remember all of it, anyway, i was searching for the exact phrase in question which was what lead me to novick.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Arendt’s whole thesis is undercut by Kershaw and Paxton showing it was all bullshit designed to create false equivalence with the Soviet Union.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

mediaphage posted:

most of her stuff i read had to do with the idea of mass culture, but i don't remember all of it, anyway, i was searching for the exact phrase in question which was what lead me to novick.

Looks like Arendt's phrase was the "imperial boomerang," and the other person I was thinking of was Aimé Césaire who wrote that Hitler "applied to Europe colonialist procedures which until then had been reserved exclusively for [the colonies]" Doing some internet searches, looks like 60's Québec favourite Albert Memmi made similar arguments, too.

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



still on hold, when is douggo coming on

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Hand Knit posted:

Looks like Arendt's phrase was the "imperial boomerang," and the other person I was thinking of was Aimé Césaire who wrote that Hitler "applied to Europe colonialist procedures which until then had been reserved exclusively for [the colonies]" Doing some internet searches, looks like 60's Québec favourite Albert Memmi made similar arguments, too.

cheers, it's hard for me to remember any of arendts phrasing on anything because most of the stuff i read from her was in french

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.
if that fat gently caress drops vaccination restrictions I swear to god I’m hijacking a big rig and blocking the entrance to queen’s park

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

chill music

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
haha bout to smash this thing down

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

zombie rob ford has entered the protest

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
lol doug is declaring a state of emergency

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



more money for cops, as predicted

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



as is tradition

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

everybody gets what they want (except you, of course)

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Futanari Damacy posted:

Not sure about a diesel engine but it isn't hard to whip some up on the stove regardless.

ordinary water

skewetoo
Mar 30, 2003

lmfao state of emergency :woop:

ghosthorse
Dec 15, 2011

...you forget so easily...
the state of emergency means they're gonna ask the opp pretty double please to do their job

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
time to open up the maple syrup reserves

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.
God he sounds so incoherent when he’s not on script. Just a big lump of dumb

But hey get hosed Pat King

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

ghosthorse posted:

the state of emergency means they're gonna ask the opp pretty double please to do their job

doug was just asked if he's going to actually have people arrested and his response is "well I can't actually tell the police what to do so :shrug:"

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

vyelkin posted:

doug was just asked if he's going to actually have people arrested and his response is "well I can't actually tell the police what to do so :shrug:"

hahaha cops ain't gonna do poo poo

e: i wasn't snow mobiling, SHUT UP SHUT UP

lmao

ghosthorse
Dec 15, 2011

...you forget so easily...
HAHAHAHAHA COTTAGE COUNTRY VACAY CALL OUT

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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
lmao he just got asked why he went snowmobiling on Saturday

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