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Lead out in cuffs posted:Lol I once saw an academic talk that went into how mixed race handled in Apartheid South Africa. Eventually they ended up throwing the kid into a playground with other kids deemed by the government to be the one race, then into a playground with kids deemed to be the other race. Whichever kids the kid got along better with, they'd decide that was the kids race forever. South Africa would determine a kid's race by sticking a pencil in that kid's hair. If it fell out the child was deemed white. If it stayed in the child was deemed African or Coloured. I am not making this up.
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:but it’s not gonna be too different than the spanish flu and the world survived that. I just wanted to come back to this. Is there any reason to think we are in the same spot as the end of the Spanish flu? My understanding is Omicron is veeery comfy where it is, and where it is seems to be infecting/crippling/killing a poo poo ton of people. Everything I read about the Spanish Flu was "and then a strain came around that was more infectious but less deadly so those that survived got immunity the end" which...are we there? This, to me, seems less "omicron is going to burn out very soon and we'll be fine" and more "throwing up your hands and giving up". Am I missing something?
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Hand Knit posted:South Africa would determine a kid's race by sticking a pencil in that kid's hair. If it fell out the child was deemed white. If it stayed in the child was deemed African or Coloured. Yeah it was called the "pencil test". The whole thing was a case study in the absuridities that result when a fascist regime starts trying to confront reality.
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CrcleSqreSanchz posted:Am I missing something? what exactly do you want to hear? you know as well as anyone that we're on year three of a pandemic, the scenario is unique in many ways, and we don't have a lot of data about the long term workings of the variants, we can draw parallels to previous pandemics based on perceived similarities in behaviour. nothing is certain. if this is driving you mad, i'm sorry, but we literally don't know. you can choose to view what people in directly related medical fields say either positively or dismiss it as unfounded optimism, but that's a choice you have to make.
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I found this article extremely interesting re: where we are, variants + mutation, and vaccines/boosters: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/predicting-the-next-booster the tl;dr is it isn't mutating like the flu in a predictable ladder-like pattern yet my takeaway is i hate to say it but covid may throw us some crazy mutations still. or maybe it'll settle into a pattern soon and we'll be "ok". hard to say and the author isn't hazarding a prediction. (edited to separate my opinion from my tl;dr of the article) Cold on a Cob has issued a correction as of 00:55 on Feb 12, 2022 |
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infernal machines posted:what exactly do you want to hear? you know as well as anyone that we're on year three of a pandemic, the scenario is unique in many ways, and we don't have a lot of data about the long term workings of the variants, we can draw parallels to previous pandemics based on perceived similarities in behaviour. nothing is certain. if this is driving you mad, i'm sorry, but we literally don't know. It's okay, friend. This isn't driving me nuts, I'm honestly just curious if I missed the "yeah, this is looking like it's near the end" train. It's actually kind of fun, knowing this was coming (everything opening up like the States, never going back) and now being in it. Facing it. Thinking and wondering. I mean you're absolutely correct. No idea what this is all going to do. No idea what tomorrow brings.
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So what's the best case scenario here? If they use their children as human shields, they're going to cling to any picture of police rightfully removing the children from their psychotic parents and use it to rile up the real nutters.
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Dreylad posted:personally, i do not want children to get hurt same, i hope the chuds are not that craven
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Dreylad posted:personally, i do not want children to get hurt well so far the police are nowhere to be seen so you may have nothing to worry about! (unless you aren't white) thunderspanks has issued a correction as of 01:09 on Feb 12, 2022 |
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Koirhor posted:I mean I assume *if* the police do anything it’ll be at 2AM or some poo poo indeed, time to make some coffee
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Dreylad posted:personally, i do not want children to get hurt Very much same, but i also do not want to normalize or reward using children to shield yourself from police while in commission of a crime. There are people there with strollers standing in the middle of the street with cars driving by. what the gently caress is wrong with people.
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CrcleSqreSanchz posted:I just wanted to come back to this. Is there any reason to think we are in the same spot as the end of the Spanish flu? My understanding is Omicron is veeery comfy where it is, and where it is seems to be infecting/crippling/killing a poo poo ton of people. Everything I read about the Spanish Flu was "and then a strain came around that was more infectious but less deadly so those that survived got immunity the end" which...are we there? omicron lol thats old news. let me tell you about BA.2.........
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CrcleSqreSanchz posted:I just wanted to come back to this. Is there any reason to think we are in the same spot as the end of the Spanish flu? My understanding is Omicron is veeery comfy where it is, and where it is seems to be infecting/crippling/killing a poo poo ton of people. Everything I read about the Spanish Flu was "and then a strain came around that was more infectious but less deadly so those that survived got immunity the end" which...are we there? our usual cyclical flu season emerged from the Spanish flu epidemic. eventually enough people survive it that it has some amount of herd immunity mitigate it’s spread and combined with tracking and vaccination programs it becomes manageable, in that it hits us every year and people still die but it’s not burning through all of us as there is no immunity yet. it’s not a good situation versus, like, preemptive tests, proper tracking and localized lockdowns, but we already normalized to endemic coronaviruses before. Omicron is hurting a lot of people, but that’s because it has literally the whole population available to infect. on a per capita basis it’s not that deadly or harmful the vast majority of the time, especially with vaccination, and a eventually it’s going to run of fresh tinder, i.e. vulnerable hosts, to spread to the degree it has, because even if the vaccines arent sterilizing 100% of the time, they do significantly cut down on infectivity, and combine that with broader immune protection there will be a point where it’s just something we acclimate to and deal with in cyclical upticks. admittedly I’m not an epidemiologist but this is my understanding from what I’ve been reading throughout this whole thing. Omicrons severity is significantly lower than alpha and delta. The bet being made by a lot of business appears to be that it won’t be constantly sickening whole work crews enough to shut down work, and so far that seems to be the case. Anecdotally my exposure and sickness slowed me down for about a day then I bounced back pretty well. The sickest person in the household was sick and feverish for about 3/4 days and it was certainly unpleasant but about the level of a bad cold. our real problem is if we continue to ignore our healthcare infrastructure, but frankly that was already a crisis before all this anyway. It is frustrating and demoralizing to see the state we are left in, but again, things go on. Ron Paul Atreides has issued a correction as of 01:38 on Feb 12, 2022 |
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:Omicrons severity is significantly lower than alpha and delta did you know that omicron has already mutated into a subspecies that is 2x more powerful and evades previous omicron immunity. there are studies showing that covid can mutate quite a bit more before it reaches genetic top tier
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:our usual cyclical flu season emerged from the Spanish flu epidemic. eventually enough people survive it that it has some amount of herd immunity mitigate it’s spread and combined with tracking and vaccination programs it becomes manageable, in that it hits us every year and people still die but it’s not burning through all of us as there is no immunity yet.
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Hmmm, very interesting stuff, I like the way--- Rutibex posted:did you know that omicron has already mutated into a subspecies that is 2x more powerful and evades previous omicron immunity. there are studies showing that covid can mutate quite a bit more before it reaches genetic top tier GODDAMNIT lol lmao To me, I still stand with Infernal: We just don't know what is going to happen next.
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Rutibex posted:did you know that omicron has already mutated into a subspecies that is 2x more powerful and evades previous omicron immunity. there are studies showing that covid can mutate quite a bit more before it reaches genetic top tier I’ve seen the preliminary reports of the variant that is more infectious but I’ve seen nothing to suggest vaccine or immunity evasion like what existed between delta and omicron and no data on increased severity whatsoever. additionally, there is no such thing as top tier. evolution is not a progress track, it’s a recursive process of variation constrained by statistical probabilities. If is is a variant from omicron, whose spike protein is already very different and much more elaborate than delta, while antibodies may be less effective there is no reason still to conclude T-cells will lose effectiveness. there is always a chance things can get worse. but that is neither a foregone conclusion nor necessarily the most likely outcome. in either case, our largely vaccinated population will not be the most likely incubation point for the next variant. It should be everyone’s mission to get vaccines to the rest of the world , which is a much bigger point of failure for the west then our own halfassed efforts at internal containment
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Papa Was A Video Toaster posted:these covids go to 11 so you're at omicron and it's like "where can you go?" that's right, nowhere. but with this...
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infernal machines posted:so you're at omicron and it's like "where can you go?" that's right, nowhere. but with this... I wonder if they will actually name a variant Omega because that would absolutely start a loving panic over the name alone
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Yeah uh I wouldn't worry that much about the vaccinated population in general, (though older and more vulnerable people are going to continue to die needlessly) after they finish the Omicron vaccine we'll be fully protected from Omicron and have a fairly high protection against Omicron 2, 3, and 4, at which point they'll probably have to make another new vaccine. These variants will probably have varying lethality, but will likely be significantly less dangerous to vaccinated people. This will continue until the anti vaxxers are all dead. Hopefully sooner rather than later I guess, because that's the only way the pandemic ever actually ends.
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:are you ready for… THE OMEGA STRAIN god yes. want everyone to be talking about the OMEGA VARIANT ive been waiting over a year for it
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:are you ready for… THE OMEGA STRAIN yes. once we run out of letters covid is done, it's science
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Mafic Rhyolite posted:Yeah uh I wouldn't worry that much about the vaccinated population in general, (though older and more vulnerable people are going to continue to die needlessly) after they finish the Omicron vaccine we'll be fully protected from Omicron and have a fairly high protection against Omicron 2, 3, and 4, at which point they'll probably have to make another new vaccine. These variants will probably have varying lethality, but will likely be significantly less dangerous to vaccinated people. yeah. it’s a bad new normal, and innocent people will be hurt, but that’s nothing new. You can’t let it break you . Just gotta do what you can to not contribute to infecting people as best you can within the context. just normalizing the wearing of masks even without mandates would significantly help us cut down on transmissible viruses Which makes these assholes even more annoying
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