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'The US intend to trick us into invading Ukraine, and we fully intend on falling for this trick'
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Feb 12, 2022 09:37
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Triple bluff.
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Feb 12, 2022 09:38
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Here we go lads. As in yeah this shooting-ones'-foot invasion is coming. Grouchio fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Feb 12, 2022 |
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Feb 12, 2022 11:23
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Grouchio posted:Here we go lads. Something happen?
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Feb 12, 2022 11:28
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Al-Saqr posted:Jake, the point of these briefings is to hide what you actually feel Conspiratiorist posted:Triple bluff. Grouchio posted:Here we go lads. Consider making your posts informative.
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Feb 12, 2022 11:29
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Alchenar posted:'The US intend to trick us into invading Ukraine, and we fully intend on falling for this trick' They could still say they were worried about Ukraine starting something but that's the first development that actually has me worried.
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Feb 12, 2022 11:34
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Britain is also pulling out all of their military instructors. Now who will show them how to integrate a tea kettle into a main battle tank? 
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Feb 12, 2022 12:22
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https://twitter.com/afp/status/1492459487940292612?s=21
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Feb 12, 2022 12:35
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Nenonen posted:Britain is also pulling out all of their military instructors. Now who will show them how to integrate a tea kettle into a main battle tank? The tea extends life. The tea expands consciousness. The tea is vital to not getting invaded by Russia. The tea must flow. 
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Feb 12, 2022 13:13
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They've unlocked the samovar technology, they have no need of the British. Sadly, both sides have this advancement, so we can't ascertain who has the overall strategic advantage.
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Feb 12, 2022 13:23
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Feb 12, 2022 14:16
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Okay, that's a bit worrying. Supplying the invasion excuse right here.
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Feb 12, 2022 14:24
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Torrannor posted:Okay, that's a bit worrying. Supplying the invasion excuse right here. I don’t think Pushilin is the most reliable person to listen to.
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Feb 12, 2022 14:27
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Torrannor posted:Okay, that's a bit worrying. Supplying the invasion excuse right here. Casus bellies have been invented whole cloth earlier. If they want to invade, they will just invent a reason. The shelling of Mainila
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Feb 12, 2022 14:33
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I don’t think Pushilin is the most reliable person to listen to. This is obviously bullshit (the part about Polish and US mercenaries arriving at the line of contact), but does that really matter if it gives Putin the excuse to invade in order to "protect" the Donetsk People Republic or whatever it's name was?
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Feb 12, 2022 14:33
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Torrannor posted:This is obviously bullshit (the part about Polish and US mercenaries arriving at the line of contact), but does that really matter if it gives Putin the excuse to invade in order to "protect" the Donetsk People Republic or whatever it's name was? It doesn’t indeed, they’ll fabricate something regardless of Ukrainian or Western actions, same as in all previous flareups of the war. They way you worded your post just gave me an impression that you’re on Pushilin’s side.
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Feb 12, 2022 14:39
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I wonder what Russians (the general population) think of all this. Are they for invasion? Is Putin gaining popularity by threatening imminent bloodshed?
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Feb 12, 2022 14:44
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cinci zoo sniper posted:It doesn’t indeed, they’ll fabricate something regardless of Ukrainian or Western actions, same as in all previous flareups of the war. They way you worded your post just gave me an impression that you’re on Pushilin’s side. Sorry, I've phrased that poorly then. It's just that he massing of troops, evacuation orders for non-Ukrainians due to US security services believing an invasion is imminent, blockading of Ukrainian ports, the Russians themselves reducing their embassy staff, and now an attempt to to create a justification for Russians crossing the border (to defend the people in Donetsk from "foreign mercenaries") is just a further sign that an invasion is a very real possibility, and it's freaking me out a bit.
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Feb 12, 2022 14:45
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I've seen some assessments that the Russias have around 100 Battalion Tactical Groups. Does anyone know how many of those are maneuver elements vs logistical units? If there's a better thread for such questions let me know. Stay safe EE goons.
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Feb 12, 2022 14:49
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Terminally Bored posted:I wonder what Russians (the general population) think of all this. Are they for invasion? Is Putin gaining popularity by threatening imminent bloodshed? A slim majority thinks the current situation is the fault of US/NATO, but prospects of war remain unpopular.
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Feb 12, 2022 14:53
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Terminally Bored posted:I wonder what Russians (the general population) think of all this. Are they for invasion? Is Putin gaining popularity by threatening imminent bloodshed? They are more concerned about black elves in a new lord of the rings show
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Feb 12, 2022 15:15
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Ynglaur posted:I've seen some assessments that the Russias have around 100 Battalion Tactical Groups. Does anyone know how many of those are maneuver elements vs logistical units? If there's a better thread for such questions let me know. Stay safe EE goons. A standard BTG has 3 maneuver companies, indirect, support company and specialized troop companies. They kind of handle their own logistics and coordinate thru a brigade sized element and higher for more stuff. Everyone has supply troops and logistics areas will have a bunch. Sorta educated guess is that 25-35% of their troops staged to move from there are logistics/support.
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Dirt5o8 posted:A standard BTG has 3 maneuver companies, indirect, support company and specialized troop companies. They kind of handle their own logistics and coordinate thru a brigade sized element and higher for more stuff. Everyone has supply troops and logistics areas will have a bunch. Sorta educated guess is that 25-35% of their troops staged to move from there are logistics/support. Thanks. So similar to a US BCT, but pushed down to a battalion-sized element? Even 60 BTGs would be the equivalent (very roughly) of 20 US BCTs. The US Army has 30-ish of those. Thats a lot of military power just outside Ukraine.
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Feb 12, 2022 16:29
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I don’t think Pushilin is the most reliable person to listen to. Not if his name is shorthand for pusillanimous.
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Feb 12, 2022 16:36
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Ynglaur posted:Thanks. So similar to a US BCT, but pushed down to a battalion-sized element? Even 60 BTGs would be the equivalent (very roughly) of 20 US BCTs. The US Army has 30-ish of those. Thats a lot of military power just outside Ukraine. Yeah, pretty similar. Biggest difference is how much more indirect fire, ADA, and drone support the Russians keep at BTG and company level.
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Feb 12, 2022 16:38
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The other big difference is that Russia has to keep at least one dubstep truck in each platoon sized element
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Feb 12, 2022 16:46
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Ynglaur posted:Thanks. So similar to a US BCT, but pushed down to a battalion-sized element? Even 60 BTGs would be the equivalent (very roughly) of 20 US BCTs. The US Army has 30-ish of those. Thats a lot of military power just outside Ukraine. The consensus of estimates so seems to be steady at “above 100 BTGs”, or >50% of relevant active duty forces.
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Feb 12, 2022 17:05
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Terminally Bored posted:I wonder what Russians (the general population) think of all this. Are they for invasion? Is Putin gaining popularity by threatening imminent bloodshed? Not excited about it but either resigned themseves to possibility or don't care as long as they themselves dont get conscripted.
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Feb 12, 2022 17:52
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Sekenr posted:Not excited about it but either resigned themseves to possibility or don't care as long as they themselves dont get conscripted. Evergreen posts regarding Russian politics
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Feb 12, 2022 17:55
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Consider making your posts informative. The State Duma has scheduled a hearing on recognizing the independence of the DPR and LNR on the 14th. Russian Navy will have concentrated its Surface Warfare Group in the Black Sea on the 15th. In case people were wondering were the "by the 16th" was coming from.
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Feb 12, 2022 18:01
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:The other big difference is that Russia has to keep at least one dubstep truck in each platoon sized element The Hardbass is coming from inside the T-90
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1492142492833271810 https://mobile.twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1492200387461406728 https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1492431836068388864 Conspiratiorist fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Feb 12, 2022 |
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Feb 12, 2022 18:21
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https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/1492554288794640390
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https://www.axios.com/biden-putin-russia-ukraine-a11d6995-050e-4dbc-8d4d-b49358b07e55.html Sounds like Putin-Biden call went predictably nowhere.
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Feb 12, 2022 19:24
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://www.axios.com/biden-putin-russia-ukraine-a11d6995-050e-4dbc-8d4d-b49358b07e55.html The Russian interpreter didn't know how to translate malarkey, so they had to cut the call short.
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Feb 12, 2022 19:27
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Conspiratiorist posted:The State Duma has scheduled a hearing on recognizing the independence of the DPR and LNR on the 14th. https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1491753164823056384 That would track with the supposed timeline, a recognition of the breakaway territories with a pre-bottled 'provocation' scenario to justify an invasion action on the 16th. Guess we'll see on the 14th if anything actually happens with the Duma 
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Feb 12, 2022 19:35
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mobby_6kl posted:I've got a fight to Kiev on the 20th lol. Let's see if anything happens until then. You should maybe not do that
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Feb 12, 2022 19:48
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There is also this... https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1492499117431529476
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So here’s the question why isn’t biden providing zelensky proof of the planned Russian attack you’d think he ought to know about it
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