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My father isn't a Nazi but I'd be lying if the "I AM A PIECE OF poo poo" line didn't resonate with me.
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Warbird posted:I feel you there as you don’t want to go about glorifying the shitbags but that was more or less the case for the source material. Occultism being another common trope with them for the same (albeit far smaller scaled irl) reason. In those stories, occultism is usually a matter of the lack of scruples, where the Nazi scientists figure out how to summon demons by brute-forcing the rituals, sacrificing thousands in the process, while the heroic Americans would never steep so low. Same goes to weird medical procedures which would discard uncountably many test subjects. That sort of logic doesn't really work for inventing racists Iron Man armor, or pocket dimensions, unless those are fueled by puppy-tears or something like that. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Feb 12, 2022 |
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Feb 12, 2022 21:32
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Marsupial Ape posted:If Auggie had only a single item of super science, like a zap sceptre or glun gun, I would just hand wave it for comic book rules. A villain needs a gimmick and there's a tradition in comics of C-List villains of having ingenuity to invent a single tool/weapon to support that gimmick. Captain Boomerang type poo poo. It's in line with The White Dragon from the comics, he just didn't have any children. Gunn added that wrinkle and probably made him a lovely trailer trash guy on top of it as to not make his character look good in any way IIRC the comic book Peacemaker also had a racist dad that abused him but he didn't really have any abilities. Gunn thought it would be cool to mash him and White Dragon together. Senator Drinksalot fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Feb 12, 2022 |
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Feb 12, 2022 21:49
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yea White Dragon is always a techy guy, Gunn just made him a drunk has-been trailer trash piece of poo poo to make it nice and clear 'hey, cool tech and battle suit aside please understand this super-KKK-nazi man is a pathetic loser when not surrounded by his lackies worshipping him'
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Feb 12, 2022 21:54
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sexpig by night posted:'is a pathetic loser when not surrounded by his lackies worshipping him'
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Feb 12, 2022 21:59
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that nazi troupe can be historically misleading as well, as the famous RL nazi doctors who didnt give a gently caress about ethics for "races" they dehumanised had piss poor methodologies too. Even to begin with, as malnourished concentration camp inmates are hardly representative of humans in general, and from there worked backwards with certain bunk racial assumptions. Helps the common misconception that their ethical disregard "gave results/got the job done" at a inhumane cost.
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I think there's only a handful of them that that's true for anyway and it was mostly the ones the US swept their pasts under the rug for when they put them on the space race team. Von Braun did sort of do a 180 on his past when he supported the 60s civil rights movement, I guess. He never had to pay for his transgressions as a member of Hitler's inner circle though. Senator Drinksalot fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Feb 12, 2022 |
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Feb 12, 2022 22:15
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I just assume he inherited the folding space and its resources from some other piece of poo poo with more resources.
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Feb 12, 2022 22:28
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Could be he inhereted it from William Heller, the second White Dragon and sort of an ultra racist Bruce Wayne
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Feb 12, 2022 22:31
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It's comic book land, there's probably popular superscience magazines with instructions on how to build a pocket dimension
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Senator Drinksalot posted:I think there's only a handful of them that that's true for anyway and it was mostly the ones the US swept their pasts under the rug for when they put them on the space race team. Evidence indicates Von Braun was forced to join the SS officially to keep his job. Even before the war, it was very hard to hold even a teaching or bus driving position without joining the Nazi Party. Denazification was very difficult because of how much work it took to figure out who was a real Nazi.
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Feb 12, 2022 23:23
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He still had no qualms about using concentration camp labor to build his rockets.
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yea the whole 'well he was maybe forced to be in the SS' thing kinda gets overshadowed by the fact he literally used concentration camps to build his rockets and was famously a pretty loving brutal taskmaster about it. It also doesn't help that the main source for that is Von Braun himself saying 'oh yea they totally made me' and US government people incredibly invested in keeping their pet nazi around going 'yea that checks out, really he's a victim too'
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chitoryu12 posted:Evidence indicates Von Braun was forced to join the SS officially to keep his job. Even before the war, it was very hard to hold even a teaching or bus driving position without joining the Nazi Party. Denazification was very difficult because of how much work it took to figure out who was a real Nazi. Denazification was very difficult because the US had zero interest in doing it lol. More Nazis were made high ranking NATO officers than were executed at Nuremberg.
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There wasn't much interest because a large part of the American population actually didn't mind the Nazis, especially in the intelligence community and armed forces leadership. To them, Communist Russia was a way bigger threat and quite a few of them were pissed when Japan forced our hand into joining the side of the USSR.
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A large portion of current Americans don't mind nazis.
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TheSwizzler posted:It's comic book land, there's probably popular superscience magazines with instructions on how to build a pocket dimension Heck, it could have been installed by the home’s previous owner. “Infinite N-dimensional storage space” would be a great value add when selling your home.
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Rhyno posted:A large portion of current Americans don't mind nazis. Sure but this myth that the US had had enough of the great evil is ridiculous. We were staying out of the war hoping Hitler and Stalin would take each other out and then we could go in and mop up and install puppet governments all over Eastern Europe.
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Falukorv posted:In my head canon, he stole it from aliens. Eh, I feel it's on brand. Nazis were all about investing vast resources in stupid over the top superweapons while failing to get warm winter coats for their troops for a winter invasion of Russia. Even in this show if White Dragon had bothered to buy even off the shelf bullet proof vests for his goons he'd probably have won that fight. Instead it's all super tech that apparently is just effective as a KIA sedan in finding his target. Thundercracker fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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Warbird posted:Heck, it could have been installed by the home’s previous owner. “Infinite N-dimensional storage space” would be a great value add when selling your home. Turns out the only helmet that Augie ended up making himself was the one that gives you scabies.
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i cannot believe we only have one episode left and he has yet to make peas
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Marsupial Ape posted:If Auggie had only a single item of super science, like a zap sceptre or glun gun, I would just hand wave it for comic book rules. A villain needs a gimmick and there's a tradition in comics of C-List villains of having ingenuity to invent a single tool/weapon to support that gimmick. Captain Boomerang type poo poo. Why? Just because Auggie is highly intelligent and really good at science/engineering doesn't make him any more emotionally intelligent. He can be smart enough to build X-Ray helmets but still be a piece of poo poo who makes his children fight for money.
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Everyone posted:Why? Just because Elon Musk is highly intelligent and really good at science/engineering doesn't make him any more emotionally intelligent. He can be smart enough to build X-Ray helmets but still be a piece of poo poo who
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That's awesome Hopefully Peacemaker gets a blu ray release I'd love to use custom art like that on it's case
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theflyingexecutive posted:Denazification was very difficult because the US had zero interest in doing it lol. More Nazis were made high ranking NATO officers than were executed at Nuremberg. JUST FOR THE RECORD NAZI SOLDERS, SAILORS, AND MARINES IN THE GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR WERE MADE US VETERANS BY AN ACT OF CONGRESS IN 1957 US PUBLIC LAW 85-425 SEC 410 APPROVED 23 MAY 1958 THIS MADE ALL NAZI ARMY, NAVY, AND MARINE VETERANS EQUAL TO US VETERANS ADDITIONALLY UNDER US PUBLIC LAW 810 APPROVED BY THE 17TH CONGRESS ON 26 FEBRUARY 1929 THE WAR DEPARTMENT WAS DIRECTED TO ERRECT HEADSTONES AND RECOGNIZE NAZI GRAVE SITES AS US GRAVE SITES IN ESSENCE WHEN YOU REMOVE A NAZI STATUE MONUMENT OR HEADSTONE YOU ARE IN FACT REMOVING A STATUE MONUMENT OR HEADSTONE OF A UNITED STATES VETERAN HERITAGE NOT HATE
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Looks to be a copypasta about confederate veterans from a couple of years back when all the statues started getting torn down tweaked a hair.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It's like they had one of those Facebook meme things where you go down the list and pick a title that corresponds to the first letter of your first name and a name that corresponds to the last letter of your last name and that's your Nazi supervillain title. I wonder what the Nazi equivalent of "Moon Moon" would be Aw man I got Jew Jew 
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I knew the cow reminded me of something.
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cant cook creole bream posted:That sort of logic doesn't really work for inventing racists Iron Man armor, or pocket dimensions, unless those are fueled by puppy-tears or something like that. 
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Mons Hubris posted:What is “throw your dog the invisible bone” supposed to mean? I guess it’s sexual but what an odd turn of phrase. 
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Jaxyon posted:Also I did not expect the not-even-final episode of peacemaker to be better than the finale of Boba Fett Star Wars is at best PG 13 at all times, which means it'll never be particularly moving because it'll never allow the hero to shoot his incredibly racist dad right in the face mid-tirade. There's no meaningful stakes possible in anything on Disney+ and there never will be.
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TheSwizzler posted:It's comic book land, there's probably popular superscience magazines with instructions on how to build a pocket dimension Also in comic book land "a wizard did it" happens way more often than you'd think The world's lousy with ancient wizards just sitting in caves waiting to give mystical gems to whoever randomly walks in
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Science works differently in the DC continuity, you're more likely to succeed at an experiment if you're working in a garage with money from illegal activities. Government labs with top of the line equipment are more likely to have terrible accidents that result in an uninvolved third party getting superpowers with a catch.
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TheSwizzler posted:It's comic book land, there's probably popular superscience magazines with instructions on how to build a pocket dimension It's easy to do superscience long as you're doing it for the wrong reasons, basically.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Also in comic book land "a wizard did it" happens way more often than you'd think The guardians video game did exactly that lol
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Relevant Tangent posted:Star Wars is at best PG 13 at all times, which means it'll never be particularly moving because it'll never allow the hero to shoot his incredibly racist dad right in the face mid-tirade. There's no meaningful stakes possible in anything on Disney+ and there never will be. Its kind of weird to say that destroying an entire planet of peaceful pacifist humans doesn't qualify as particularly moving or meaningful stakes. And that's like a few minutes into the first movie. Also in Star Wars the lead fights his dad in a laser sword duel, and the fact that he intends to kill him if he wins is like a major plot point. pile of brown fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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Youre trolling
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