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Toshimo posted:My one Xmas list item for whatever the next thing you do is: Don't put it on 12/24 hour cycles. For the love of god. 10/20 is great. Even like 11.5/23, if you have to stretch it. But having your whole reset window creep forwards just a few minutes a day until it's well and truly out-of-sync with your play hours is the worst. It's one of the biggest reasons I never finished OG NGU. OG NGU eventually let you move to a 23 hour cycle through various upgrades, I believe.
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only for fruits, i believe
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Feb 11, 2022 20:44
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:only for fruits, i believe I mean sure but they're the only reason you'd rebirth at 24 instead of 23 anyways.
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Feb 11, 2022 20:51
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wait y'all rebirth instead of just sitting on the same life for months on end until your advanced training creeps up high enough to move to the next adventure level?
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Feb 11, 2022 21:00
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uPen posted:I mean sure but they're the only reason you'd rebirth at 24 instead of 23 anyways. maguffins!!!
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i'll try to keep everything on a like 7/11/23 hour cycle systems, if i can. I would like players to see those sort of systems asap, like putting a 23 hour cooldown on the rate you can prestige your main rpg-y stats for some meta currencies. I don't want folks' first impression like in NGU that you need to babysit the game every 15 mins to progress. i worked a bit on getting enemies to fire projectiles in real-time this morning and got this: https://gfycat.com/skeletalopulentgermanshepherd
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Feb 12, 2022 17:14
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Oh gently caress it's MMBN. 
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Feb 12, 2022 17:16
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i actually felt my Gamer Instincts kick in in that demo and i wanted to dodge all the shots coming out (and ran into them instead, also true to my Gamer Instincts)
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Player Death (one of them!) and the blob projectile splash pics    e: I wanna try something re: the video link https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SkeletalOpulentGermanshepherd-mobile.mp4
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Replicating MMBN in NGU2 makes me can’t wait to start Jack In!
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Holy gently caress, MMBN. Already I am all in on this.
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Feb 12, 2022 17:30
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megaman NGU would be the end of me.
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Evolve idle: How do I bioseed? I kinda want to do the challenge run (no steel production, reach bioseed) but once I get past the MAD phase and start doing space stuff I get sorta confused as to how I actually progress. Do I need to probe each option and do w/e at each spot to unlock more options? I can look at the wiki and see that it takes double my current knowledge cap to reach the bioseed requirement and like, that sounds insanely higher than I can reach right now.
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Agent355 posted:Evolve idle: How do I bioseed? I kinda want to do the challenge run (no steel production, reach bioseed) but once I get past the MAD phase and start doing space stuff I get sorta confused as to how I actually progress. Do I need to probe each option and do w/e at each spot to unlock more options? Bioseed is the second-to-last thing you'll do in the first space area and requires you to do all the various missions and unlock those locations, yes. You'll get research and building options for each of them over time. Once you unlock the Mars colony rebrand you'll get access to a very good science building which will help you with the knowledge requirements as well as alternative productions and the like. The moon rebrand also has a good research building although iridium will likely take a bunch of your cap. You'll know you're close once you unlock the Space Dock. If you're still short on research then the capstone of the system is a giant research project which gives a large % cap boost. Rynoto fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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Feb 13, 2022 00:45
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Rynoto posted:One of the tech unlocks is for CRISPR which is the primary reset currency spending area. You'll spend a few plasmids there to unlock challenges which allows you to start adding modifiers onto runs for more mastery which give larger multipliers to production. I'm getting close to having the Rigorous plasmid upgrade. What's the best species to chain 3* runs as?
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ZZT the Fifth posted:I'm getting close to having the Rigorous plasmid upgrade. What's the best species to chain 3* runs as? You'll want to be getting MAD stars with as many different species as you can to quickly build up mastery bonus. There's an important perk after doing 25 different ones, as well.
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I gave up that run for bioseed, it just seemed to get glacially slow and I wasn't sure I'd even be able to finish, maybe I need more crisper upgrades.
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oldskool posted:wait y'all rebirth instead of just sitting on the same life for months on end until your advanced training creeps up high enough to move to the next adventure level? Yeah i sit on like 200 days rebirths now. My last one was 30 days ago. LOL. There needs to be a big AP spend where there is a button you press that will save your current resource spends, and then put them back when you rebirth
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Agent355 posted:I gave up that run for bioseed, it just seemed to get glacially slow and I wasn't sure I'd even be able to finish, maybe I need more crisper upgrades. It's not necessary and I did my first 2 bioseeds without it , but the Ancients upgrade that gives you space religion technology makes things a lot easier. The knowledge cap seems intimidating but wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, Observatories and Satellites and Exotic Material Storages add up really quickly. Make sure you're keeping up with ARPA stuff and you have Stock Exchanges and Supercolliders building in the background, because they'll make a really big difference too for $/knowledge caps. I would not rush to do any kind of challenge mode, but do try to get a run in sooner or later even if you go back to doing MADs for a while -- the Governers CRISPR upgrade requires 25 of the bioseed currency to unlock which you should be able to grab in one run and it's very impactful.
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Your first run of a higher reset tier will always take a good long while, and first 0* bioseed is fine once you're at softcap. They only get faster as you get more phage for higher softcap. Of course I'm currently regretting going for the Slime Lord feat as the soul gem production of the sludge is soul crushingly slow.
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I loving did it. After 936 days 11:30:48, I beat The End and I finished NGU. Even though my interest sagged towards the end, I was checking in intermittently and let my numbers keep going up. What a ride. I still vaguely remember when you started workshopping your ideas in this (previous iteration) thread. NGU is enshrined in my personal idle game top tier (along with Shark Game, Paperclips and A Dark Room).
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Was there another game like Evolve Idle where you researched stuff until you shot a rocket to the moon? Or was that just an earlier Evolve?
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Tokelau All Star posted:Was there another game like Evolve Idle where you researched stuff until you shot a rocket to the moon? Or was that just an earlier Evolve? Kittens Game that evolve clearly takes inspiration from has a space portion.
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Evolve Truepath run: Gosh that's a lot of He3 to make it to the next stage. I'm running up against shortages of crafted resources to make it over this hump; I have about 100k to go and the best storage that increases it by 12.6k is already requiring 1.65m Sheet Metal. FAKE EDIT: Course, I'm dumb and forgot to stack Mass Drivers. Crash-building 8 more turned them white. 
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Sage Grimm posted:Evolve Truepath run: Gosh that's a lot of He3 to make it to the next stage. I'm running up against shortages of crafted resources to make it over this hump; I have about 100k to go and the best storage that increases it by 12.6k is already requiring 1.65m Sheet Metal. The tiny mission? That one was hell and required so many mass drivers, yeah  Are you doing Heavy? It was the only time I regretted being in that universe.
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Posting for 4g so I can have cool stuff in his discord
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Rynoto posted:Your first run of a higher reset tier will always take a good long while, and first 0* bioseed is fine once you're at softcap. They only get faster as you get more phage for higher softcap. Do I want to bioseed before or after building MAD masteries?
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ZZT the Fifth posted:Do I want to bioseed before or after building MAD masteries? Do some 0* Bioseeds for cap as plasmids scale hard for a long while and spend excess plasmids for the crispr upgrades then swap to 3* MADs til ~30% mastery. That'll set you up to Blackhole out of standard.
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Rynoto posted:Do some 0* Bioseeds for cap as plasmids scale hard for a long while and spend excess plasmids for the crispr upgrades then swap to 3* MADs til ~30% mastery. That'll set you up to Blackhole out of standard. See, I haven't bioseeded yet, but I just got the last Craftsmen plasmid upgrade, and was going to jump into 3* MADs like your original suggestion if you hadn't explained this. Thanks! About how much of the Bioseed currency should I get (and what will that bump the Plasmid softcap to) before I swap over? Are there any other super important upgrades to get besides the challenge/achievement powerup ones, the first storage one, and the craftsmen ones?
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ZZT the Fifth posted:See, I haven't bioseeded yet, but I just got the last Craftsmen plasmid upgrade, and was going to jump into 3* MADs like your original suggestion if you hadn't explained this. Thanks! Sorry, yeah! It's honestly stuff from so long ago that it can get jumbled. Phage is a 1:1 softcap upgrade to plasmids and you'll get 25?ish or so per Bioseed early on as well as a good amount of plasmids. Plasmids continue to scale pretty well until the 1k ish range before slowing and dropping off in the 2-3k at which point you've likely swapped to 4* and only use phage for storage, anyways. E: Probably 250ish Phage would be a good time as that doubles(ish) your plasmid bonus. If you've got the upgrades then 3*ing Bioseeds is fine too for even more mastery as it's not until Blackholes and up that scaling gets a bit silly. Governance, as mentioned above is good as the governors give some pretty decent buffs as well as basic automation if you're not using scripts. Ancients, the second tier religion, is used for scaling and comes online pretty well late-space/early-andromeda - would skip priests for a long while. Storage should be grabbed whenever possible as it's a regular roadblock and the last one gives phage storage bonuses as well for when you eventually swap to 4*. Those are the only ones you'll likely get to before leaving standard and as always staying above softcap is more important for now. With that said once you do get phage, if you see Content or Tactical pop up in your minor traits from genetics you should spend some phage for one rank of each so it's permanently unlocked. https://pmotschmann.github.io/Evolve/wiki.html#resources-prestige The calculators for prestige on the wiki are very useful for comparing cost-benefit. Rynoto fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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All this Evolve chat is kind of making me want to try it out again -- does it actually have a defined ending like Trimps/Paperclips/NGUI?
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Nah, just increasingly more difficult prestige tiers that currently culminates in you killing the King of Hell and taking their place or in the Truepath running algorithms too hard and creating a killer AI.Rynoto posted:The tiny mission? That one was hell and required so many mass drivers, yeah Nah, running it in Evil because that was where I was doing my last 4* Technophobe. Surfing it with the Seraphs for ??? reasons (I guess because they were the only relatively unique option for the universe). I helped matters inadvertently by using my Small custom race previously. And running with 11000/6000/3100 in the relevant prestige resources (and ~25 in harmony crystals for the cost creep reduction) I guess! Sage Grimm fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Feb 14, 2022 |
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I'd sort of consider some of the feats to be 'endings' just for how hard/long they are but there aren't any capstones. Truepath is still being expanded on as a new endgame-type challenge if you want constant progression.
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ToxicFrog posted:All this Evolve chat is kind of making me want to try it out again -- does it actually have a defined ending like Trimps/Paperclips/NGUI? Trimps doesn't have an end, just a content wall that gets pushed back a few times a year.
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:Trimps doesn't have an end, just a content wall that gets pushed back a few times a year. I mean, it doesn't have a "YOU WIN! go play something else now" screen like Paperclips or Spaceplan, but it does have a defined end to the storyline once you clear all the Echoes out of the spires, and at that point it's just Number Go Up postgame content; to my mind that qualifies.
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ToxicFrog posted:I mean, it doesn't have a "YOU WIN! go play something else now" screen like Paperclips or Spaceplan, but it does have a defined end to the storyline once you clear all the Echoes out of the spires, and at that point it's just Number Go Up postgame content; to my mind that qualifies.
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Geez setting up to bioseed is difficult and takes a long time. I'm so close I don't want to stop because of sunk cost, but at the same time I feel like it'd be easier to just nuke everything and get the plasmids. I wonder if it's my fault for not getting more permanent stuff before I aimed for it.
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ZZT the Fifth posted:Geez setting up to bioseed is difficult and takes a long time. I'm so close I don't want to stop because of sunk cost, but at the same time I feel like it'd be easier to just nuke everything and get the plasmids. What's your perks page look like currently? And, you almost certainly are, but just to check -- you're maxed out with at least 250 plasmids stored for the production bonus right? edit: another thing to double check, have you taken over all the other territories and achieved Unification? That bonus is huge, I skipped it on my first Bioseed (which at least got me an achievement) but it added a lot of extra time goferchan fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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goferchan posted:What's your perks page look like currently? And, you almost certainly are, but just to check -- you're maxed out with at least 250 plasmids stored for the production bonus right? 3% General Mastery, Store - Plasmids increase storage by 0.04%, Evolution costs decreased, Crafty - Doubles the rate at which craftsmen work and craftsmen produce 100% more product from the same amount of raw materials, Challenge Genes unlocked and achievements grant a small production bonus, and Evolve Novice. e: Yes, I've already unified. Currently the Genesis Ship is at 28/100 pieces. ZZT the Fifth fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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