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Jorge Bell
Aug 2, 2006
Venting can be good but at the end of it you've also gotta be able to admit that some stuff rules, otherwise you may be at high risk for Unhealthy Actions and should seek professional help. Don't forget that everybody's at least a little crazy and that in most situations Things Will Get Better.

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hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Jorge Bell posted:

Things Will Get Better.

You sure about that one chief?

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Jorge Bell posted:

Venting can be good but at the end of it you've also gotta be able to admit that some stuff rules, otherwise you may be at high risk for Unhealthy Actions and should seek professional help. Don't forget that everybody's at least a little crazy and that in most situations Things Will Get Better.

i am perfectly in control of my actions and at peace with the knowledge that Things Will Get Worse

no part of your post was helpful or asked for and in fact , dolphin noises

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802.11weed
May 9, 2007

no

hailthefish posted:

You sure about that one chief?

some things will get better, some things will get worse. hopefully more better and less worse but yeah

just gotta post thru it

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Raine posted:

it's kinda hosed up that he died when I was out of the country. i'm caught in the disney trope where he disappeared off-screen and now he could come back at any time. i keep having dreams where he comes back. they're essentially nightmares with how it leaves me feeling when i wake

My mom died 10 years ago. I was there for it and everything, but I would have dreams where she was alive again, or worse, dreams where she would suddenly be back in my life, and I was aware that she was dead, but nobody would acknowledge how weird it was that this dead person kept popping in and out of existence. For the first 2 years it could be difficult to tell the dreams and reality apart at times,. Whenever I would open up to people about them they would sort of brush it off, probably chalking it up to grief, but this came really close to how dream people would react when I would ask them how weird it was that my dead mom was suddenly back in our lives, adding to my confusion.

I don't know what to call that experience, but life felt pretty wrong and unreal for at least 3 years more, but the dreams did stop.

Jorge Bell
Aug 2, 2006

Raine posted:

i am perfectly in control of my actions and at peace with the knowledge that Things Will Get Worse

no part of your post was helpful or asked for and in fact gently caress you

I was mostly responding to AceofFlames and drinking birds posts but go off king, die on the hill that nothing is good and everything will be bad forever, that's a healthy idea that definitely isn't tantamount to encouraging suicide. dolphin noises

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Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Jorge Bell posted:

I was mostly responding to AceofFlames and drinking birds posts but go off king, die on the hill that nothing is good and everything will be bad forever, that's a healthy idea that definitely isn't tantamount to encouraging suicide. Dickhead.

it's okay conflict is healthy and rules, otherwise id be at high risk of Unhealthy Actions and I'd have to contact professional help. everybody's at least a little crazy

Uganda Loves Me
May 24, 2002


We're in the middle of a mass extinction event, and it's going to get unimaginably worse. That's very hard to overstate. I'm beating a dead horse if I go on about the ways I cope. I find it hard to keep up with events at large without being overwhelmed by them. I mostly stopped following the day-to-day news, because I end up spending too much time and energy on it. That sends my anxiety and suicidal ideation into overdrive. It seems like I've retreated from reality, which also feels bad. I'm finding some fulfillment through my interactions with NAMI and people close to me, and I'm more effective at getting poo poo done when I don't get bogged down. More power to anyone who can stay informed without it affecting them so deeply.

My dad has his surgery tomorrow. I can't believe he went to work today. He's off the anti-inflammatory meds in preparation, and they gave him a very low dose of painkillers. He feels an obligation to the contractor that hired him, so he's going in to train someone who can fill in while he recovers. He won't be allowed to take painkillers before surgery tomorrow. At least he's getting a hotel room near the hospital to minimize the time spent in a car.

Gonna be the sole person in charge of taking care of my sister for the next few days. She has special needs and a bunch of physical issues that require help. We get along well, so I'm looking forward to it.

Uganda Loves Me
May 24, 2002


Dad's out of surgery. There was much more scar tissue than the doctors expected. We'll see how he does afterward, but it sounded like the surgeon was trying to prepare us for the idea that there might be more surgery in the future. Sounds like the surgery went as well as it could, so that's good.

Due to my sister's myriad health problems, she's at constant risk of kidney infection. She's on a medication with nasty side effects, but it keeps her out of the hospital. I was concerned about her kidneys, and kept encouraging her to drink plenty of fluids. She told me that she worried about her urostomy bag filling up, and I thought that she would simply need to empty it more often. I didn't realize it would overfill during the night and detach.

My sister called our mom during the night. Before I even knew what had happened, our mom was making the hour+ drive back to our house. My dad stayed alone at the hotel until it was time to go in for surgery. I wanted to take care of it all myself, but I've never changed a urostomy bag before. The urostomy surgery was done in the wrong place, so it needs to be done a certain way. Story of her life.

I asked my mom to teach me how to change the bag. I probably need to learn a whole lot more medical stuff in the near future. I know my parents won't be able to do the medical stuff for her forever. I know I don't have to take over. I've seen what a lovely job the state, medical organizations, and various nonprofits have done. I guarantee my sister would have died a while ago without my mom's nurse training and constant vigilance. She's been through all kinds of body horror poo poo. Horror movies have nothing on reality.

I know the urostomy bag detaching isn't a huge deal, and it has happened before. Still feeling pretty stressed, guilty and down. She has a number of rare medical issues, and they manifest in ways that specialists don't expect or understand. I'll have to learn a whole lot in order to help her maintain what little quality of life she has.

EDIT: Dad is in a lot less pain from the sciatica. Still sore from the surgery, but that will subside. Sister's in better spirits. She's still dealing with other medical issues, but looks forward to her online social groups. I had a good support group meeting. Ups and downs.

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Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

AceOfFlames posted:

Posting in here because I don't want to get yelled at in other threads (honestly I don't blame them)

Everywhere is becoming dangerous with COVID. Stuff like travel is becoming unsustainable. But the question for me is what else am I supposed to do? I don't want to start a family that will live in Hell. I have no creative skills nor do I see the point in creating something that will just vanish with our civilization. Going to the gym requires being around people (you can catch COVID), volunteering requires being around people (you can catch COVID). Video games are becoming boring. Movies are becoming boring. This isn't living. What do I do? Sit still waiting for the end?

what part of getting Covid are you afraid of? are you Immuno compromised or unable to get vaccinated?

Fuck My Ass
Mar 24, 2010
College Slice
cheese babadook

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


I got WFH accommodation and its insane how quickly this has turned things around for me. It's just been two shifts and turns out that not panicking constantly has benefits beyond just "not panicking all the time."

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.

Automata 10 Pack posted:

what part of getting Covid are you afraid of? are you Immuno compromised or unable to get vaccinated?

As someone who was vaccinated and still caught it: it is seriously worth it to alter your entire life to avoid it, poo poo was nightmarish, despite being a "lesser" breakthrough case. I woke up repeatedly because enough mucus has coagulated in my lungs my brain thought I was suffocating. Without the vaccines shots I'd likely be in the ICU/dead, Ace's specific concerns in that post are completely justified.

(All of us have all of vaccines+boosters but only the millennial kids caught it while boomers sailed through without a sniffle :shepface:)

Tulip posted:

I got WFH accommodation and its insane how quickly this has turned things around for me. It's just been two shifts and turns out that not panicking constantly has benefits beyond just "not panicking all the time."

If nothing else this horrorshow has been good for demonstrating to everyone that we don't have to live how we used to, despite the most powerful people and interests in the world trying to rest things.

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pandy fackler
Jun 2, 2020

Ronwayne posted:

As someone who was vaccinated and still caught it: it is seriously worth it to alter your entire life to avoid it, poo poo was nightmarish, despite being a "lesser" breakthrough case. I woke up repeatedly because enough mucus has coagulated in my lungs my brain thought I was suffocating. Without the vaccines shots I'd likely be in the ICU/dead, Ace's specific concerns in that post are completely justified.
Okay but everybody in my friend group who has gotten covid said it really wasn't that bad. All in late twenties early thirties but current or former smokers btw. Maybe it's a regional variant thing idk

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

I have had a worrying thing happen where the left side of my face has gone numb and started to spasm involuntarily, and I have also been unable to breathe for perhaps a minute or two. I do have an appointment with a doctor (Friday morning) but over the phone he told me he thinks it might be related to anxiety. I do suffer with anxiety (the doctor would have had my records on the computer) but I have not had anything that bad before. I worried that it might be an allergic reaction to something I ate (the first time it happened, I was eating, and ended up being sick as well) but I am not sure if I could eat something with no trouble one day and then literally the next day suffer a terrible reaction to it.

I had been anxious about it as well. Imagine being anxious about something that turned out to be caused by anxiety. Absolute nonsense. Oh! I should just stop being anxious! Absolutely no problem! The human body is a wonder and a marvel.

spatula
Nov 6, 2004

pandy fackler posted:

Okay but everybody in my friend group who has gotten covid said it really wasn't that bad. All in late twenties early thirties but current or former smokers btw. Maybe it's a regional variant thing idk

I personally had the mildest case of covid ever (seriously. I barely noticed), but this is a tremendously bad take. Just because the people you know didn't have it that bad means nothing. People die or can be hosed up permanently from covid, as I'm sure you're aware, but you're somehow choosing to ignore that in favor of your anecdotal evidence.

That said, I still do a lot of things for my mental health that are not covid safe. I go to the gym, I go on dates. I wear a mask anywhere I can. Covid is not going to end, that doesn't mean we should pretend it doesn't exist - but it's no longer reasonable for me to avoid doing some things indefinitely. I'd rather die. But I am also very afraid to die, from covid or suicide! The world is scary and bad, etc. We're all doing our best.

thehandtruck
Mar 5, 2006

the thing about the jews is,

Jollity Farm posted:

I have had a worrying thing happen where the left side of my face has gone numb and started to spasm involuntarily, and I have also been unable to breathe for perhaps a minute or two. I do have an appointment with a doctor (Friday morning) but over the phone he told me he thinks it might be related to anxiety. I do suffer with anxiety (the doctor would have had my records on the computer) but I have not had anything that bad before. I worried that it might be an allergic reaction to something I ate (the first time it happened, I was eating, and ended up being sick as well) but I am not sure if I could eat something with no trouble one day and then literally the next day suffer a terrible reaction to it.

I had been anxious about it as well. Imagine being anxious about something that turned out to be caused by anxiety. Absolute nonsense. Oh! I should just stop being anxious! Absolutely no problem! The human body is a wonder and a marvel.

get this sometimes with a buzzing in the back of my head and tip of my nose. it was pretty freaky first few times obviously. its pretty rare now. and yeah u cant "calm down" at the snap of ur fingers but for me i drastically reduced the projects and thigns i had going on my life during that time

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



i dont know how long this has been a thing, but i just learned about "smash rooms"

basically places where you make an appointment and when you show up they give you your weapon of choice

then you just go fuckin ham in a destroyable room for like 30 mins with a sledge or bat or whatever

capitalism has made this possible

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
The videogame forum informed me I do not want to be in the same room as a Smasher.

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

Raine posted:

i dont know how long this has been a thing, but i just learned about "smash rooms"

basically places where you make an appointment and when you show up they give you your weapon of choice

then you just go fuckin ham in a destroyable room for like 30 mins with a sledge or bat or whatever

capitalism has made this possible

But the point is to destroy things which you value, so you feel extra lovely afterwards.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I mean, the act of destroying a thing can just as fulfilling and inalienable as building it, so I can see a benefit to something like that. "stompbox" would be a much more marketable name imo.

Demolition has to happen before new construction can begin. To everything there is a season. the moving finger writes and having writ moves on to thank their sponsor raid shadow legends the hot new mobile ga

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Jorge Bell
Aug 2, 2006
Cathartic destruction can feel good, especially if you are used to directing your anger back at yourself. Namaste

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
The Zen of Goatman

hybridnoisebloom
Nov 16, 2021

not a great day to wake up and read the news as a trans woman.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Raine posted:

i dont know how long this has been a thing, but i just learned about "smash rooms"

basically places where you make an appointment and when you show up they give you your weapon of choice

then you just go fuckin ham in a destroyable room for like 30 mins with a sledge or bat or whatever

capitalism has made this possible

honestly i'd probably try that out once. when i was a kid i'd take a dowel rod and go knock down teasel plants in the abandoned field next to our home, it was therapeutic and good exercise (although it drove my parents insane because all i was really doing was guaranteeing that they'd grow back thicker next year :v: )

thehandtruck
Mar 5, 2006

the thing about the jews is,

No. 6 posted:

But the point is to destroy things which you value, so you feel extra lovely afterwards.

nah op its fun and okay to break poo poo

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
WolfBike!
WolfBike!
ARROOOOOO!

Raine posted:

it's been almost 4(?) years since my dad died of an overdose, and i had a random breakdown in the shower where I just started crying when I remembered how he bought a telescope when I was young and we would look at the craters on the moon together

it's kinda hosed up that he died when I was out of the country. i'm caught in the disney trope where he disappeared off-screen and now he could come back at any time. i keep having dreams where he comes back. they're essentially nightmares with how it leaves me feeling when i wake

my sister is permanently hosed up from it, she was much closer and was there when he died. she carries around his ashes with her until we get him a cemetery plot.

i dunno what point this post was supposed to make. venting into the abyss i guess

2 years for mine. I'm the one that found him, still in bed. Even with that inescapable image burned into the inside of my mind, I _still_ experience that "He'll be walking in the door any minute now" thought regularly. It's funny how the most universal human experience is always an abyss in which we must struggle alone.

Jorge Bell
Aug 2, 2006

Car Hater posted:

It's funny how the most universal human experience is always an abyss in which we must struggle alone.

Actually, everybody jacks off

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
Some cataclysmic physical accidents put an end to that. I'm talking like "they saved the pelvis, the rest is a tube coming out connected to a poop bag" level stuff. That guy is an inspiration to me because if he's fought off his suicidal ideation brought about by zero quality of life, I can too. The human body is hideously robust and that's not always a good thing.

Jorge Bell
Aug 2, 2006
Crazy, if I couldn't jack off I would be really bummed out

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
Same, but he learned to walk again and already had kids so he seems to be living life. I think of him when my personal demons start screaming louder than usual.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
Really feeling it today, chums. I took a few days 'off' - from what, exactly, I'm not sure, since I've been too paralyzed to do much other than doomscroll and self-medicate for weeks now. In any case, I went to my Mom's place for the weekend. It helped, but it was also stressful in its own way. She and my Stepdad in their own ways are encouraging me to get on my feet and some of it can be frustrating. Plus we all basically spent the weekend talking about the news in Ukraine.

I'm still so worried by everything, external factors like missing friends, legal issues, and mounting financial tensions, and like I said it's extremely paralyzing. Ripping myself from a computer screen is hard late at night, trying to sleep through extremely negative thoughts is hard once I do. Getting myself out of bed in the morning is even harder and once I'm finally up the anxiety makes it impossible to do anything productive and eats away at me and becomes guilt the more I do nothing. I got home and it's back to anxious-as-hell mode again.

Small moves, I guess: I had a chance to talk to a therapist last Tuesday and we have another video meeting tomorrow night, though I haven't exactly been practicing the self-care they mentioned. I reached out again to my GP (who never called last time I requested a phone appointment), and expect to talk to them Wednesday hopefully for a referral to a psychiatrist. Still, I'm terrified and feeling really trapped in it right now.

On the upside, going to visit Mom means more cat content hopefully to brighten the thread:





Uganda Loves Me
May 24, 2002


Mister Speaker posted:

Really feeling it today, chums. I took a few days 'off' - from what, exactly, I'm not sure, since I've been too paralyzed to do much other than doomscroll and self-medicate for weeks now. In any case, I went to my Mom's place for the weekend. It helped, but it was also stressful in its own way. She and my Stepdad in their own ways are encouraging me to get on my feet and some of it can be frustrating. Plus we all basically spent the weekend talking about the news in Ukraine.

I'm still so worried by everything, external factors like missing friends, legal issues, and mounting financial tensions, and like I said it's extremely paralyzing. Ripping myself from a computer screen is hard late at night, trying to sleep through extremely negative thoughts is hard once I do. Getting myself out of bed in the morning is even harder and once I'm finally up the anxiety makes it impossible to do anything productive and eats away at me and becomes guilt the more I do nothing. I got home and it's back to anxious-as-hell mode again.

Small moves, I guess: I had a chance to talk to a therapist last Tuesday and we have another video meeting tomorrow night, though I haven't exactly been practicing the self-care they mentioned. I reached out again to my GP (who never called last time I requested a phone appointment), and expect to talk to them Wednesday hopefully for a referral to a psychiatrist. Still, I'm terrified and feeling really trapped in it right now.

On the upside, going to visit Mom means more cat content hopefully to brighten the thread:







Those sound like some solid steps. Seeing a therapist, visiting your mom, and pursuing a psychiatrist are all proactive things. I relate to feeling bad about my anxiety and depression. They lead to struggling, and I end up feeling guilty about my struggles.

I've been in a depressed state, but I'm managing. My dad is recovering from his surgery. I have back problems too, and it's concerning. I've seen a doctor and a physical therapist about my back problems, but I don't think I communicated how bad it really was. I didn't get an x-ray or MRI. I was raised to not "complain" and that's been detrimental.

I did the NAMI In Our Own Voice training. It wasn't as bad as I expected. The teachers were cool. One was an old british guy with quite a sense of humor. It's nice to interact with people who have a solid understanding of mental health struggles. I'm still a little bitter about needing training to tell my story, but it was less about controlling the narrative than it was about presentation skills and time management.

I'm trying to be more proactive about nutrition. I took a look at the supplements I was taking, and compared them to the recommended vitamins for vegetarians. I know that it's optimal to get that stuff from food instead of pills, but that's a bit hard to swing. I made a few changes to what I was taking, and got some ridiculously-sized vitamin bottles from costco. I'm trying to reduce my sugar intake. I'm switching to low-sugar cereal and steel-cut or rolled oats.

I had a manic episode last year. I think it was my first. I realized that it happened while I was severely dehydrated. I recently read a few studies about dehydration, electrolyte balance, and mood. I think the dehydration was a major contributing factor. I'm dehydrated due to the mood stabilizer I'm taking, lamictal. I was drinking lots of water at the time, and I drink even more now. Maybe getting more electrolytes will help me actually absorb what I drink.

Ironically, I think the mood stabilizer may have helped cause my first manic episode. I'm not giving up on it, though. I've been trying different meds for years. They all have side-effects that suck, but I'll do what I can to mitigate them. I'd say I'm religious about my medication, but I have a feeling I'm more devout about it than most people are about their religion. I want to be stable, and I want to be able to follow through on responsibilities that I accept.

I'm in charge of my sister again today. I forgot that my support group is moving from zoom to in-person meetings, so I'll be missing it. I'm going to start a new zoom support group in my area, which will meet in the evenings. We have people who can't make it during the early afternoon, and people who can't make it in person. We have people who moved away, too. I enjoy seeing them, and want them to have a chance to continue receiving support. I can see the difference in those who have a support system and regularly interact with people who share the same struggles.

Jorge Bell
Aug 2, 2006
It's fine to take time off to just not do stuff! ALso cool cats and good job on talking to somebody, that can be really scary or feel intimidating.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
Man, I quit drinking about three weeks ago and it has been so much better as a result.

i also quit smoking weed two months ago and that has been decent but I'll probably eventually go back to that because it at least doesn't make me feel terrible or give me near constant GI issues.

Seatbelts
Mar 29, 2010
Great job! booze is horrible to abuse

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse
It's the fifth loving call giving me the "idk ask someone else" contacting the local healthcare services about a disability accommodation problem. Not even that they're difficult, just that the system has no information about it other than buried very deep in the patient history, so when I pop up still having the disability the staff get pissy with me for not informing them even if I had no way to inform them. Yayyy.

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

suicidality has been around again for the last week or so, I'm not gonna do anything, this has happened before, don't worry etc.

just annoying because I've gotten a couple nice gifts recently and that usually makes my brain release the happy chemical but it didn't help

Jorge Bell
Aug 2, 2006
Try fingers,
but hole

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Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.

Segata Sanshiro posted:

suicidality has been around again for the last week or so, I'm not gonna do anything, this has happened before, don't worry etc.

just annoying because I've gotten a couple nice gifts recently and that usually makes my brain release the happy chemical but it didn't help

I know the feeling: when people help you out when you're really got next to nothing, it feels like it should be great but it can be a reminder of how you can lose it. I managed to mitigate that fear in me by trying to use what I get to find longer lasting streams of income. I realize this is so broad a notion as to be useless but all I can do is try to build some sort of organization/resources/connections I can rely on when the initial wad of goods/money disappears.

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