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extremely oversimplified and offensive TL:DR breakdown of christianity in the US: Methodist churches are the methadone clinic for people who grew up in baptist families that took that poo poo too serious Anglican and Lutheran are the methadone clinic for Catholics who went waaay too hard Greek Orthodox is generally chill as gently caress but that's currently in danger as they're being flooded by psychotic reactionaries bailing from catholicism because they look at Baptist politics and go "drat, what a bunch of pinkos" shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Feb 14, 2022 |
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Anne Whateley posted:Stolen from The Economist. This one is pretty good because it shows you the time periods as well as the relationships. It's also super simplified, of course -- you can write a ton of doctoral theses on this. The terms you're looking for are "Protestant denominations" Where do the Hillsong happy clappers fit on this picture?
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Feb 14, 2022 06:21
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I'm no Power Atheist or anything at most, I don't give a gently caress about religion, but like goddamn, the very existence of all of these different beliefs/religions just spits in the face of all of them to begin with. You think they weren't this granular and annoyingly specific to begin with? Buddy, that the normal human condition!
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Feb 14, 2022 06:27
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I mean if it wasn't confusing enough already the line from Calvin/Anabaptists to Southern Baptist ideology runs alongside (straight through the puritans and a bunch of 19th century German congregationalist churches) the development of the UCC, one of the most liberal churches in the U.S. The geneology of beliefs is much less important than if the church thinks that someone like, say, Duggar is a predatory rear end in a top hat.
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Feb 14, 2022 06:31
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Just agreeing that the religion thread in Ask/Tell is an excellent place to take any questions on the history or present status of various denominations. As long as you aren't an rear end in a top hat, it's quite possibly THE most chill place on the Internet on this entire topic.
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Feb 14, 2022 06:48
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BrigadierSensible posted:Where do the Hillsong happy clappers fit on this picture? You guys know you can just google whatever particular denomination you care about, and pretty much in the first sentence of their Wikipedia article, it will tell you where they fit in
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Feb 14, 2022 06:49
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I only respect Lawful Good religions and that chart plainly has the Evangelicals owning the Evil row.
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Feb 14, 2022 07:02
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Powered Descent posted:Just agreeing that the religion thread in Ask/Tell is an excellent place to take any questions on the history or present status of various denominations. As long as you aren't an rear end in a top hat, it's quite possibly THE most chill place on the Internet on this entire topic. Does an rear end in a top hat = hard hittin questions religious people won't like?
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I'd love to know why Black Mormons put up with a religion that historically considered them subhuman and blocked them from holding the priesthood until the loving 80s. WHY? Because some of you get a planet after you die?! A planet is cool and all but I'm not paying Human God Space Taxes to the Kolabian administration if it spent its entire existence insulting me. Also, I'd love to know how many times Michelle Duggar has woken up and stared into the darkness, wondering if this feeling of horror will ever go away? How many babies until God takes my suffering away?
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Feb 14, 2022 11:24
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Anne Whateley posted:Scientology isn't a Christian denomination. It's like asking where Judaism or Islam are on the chart. well where are they  Powered Descent posted:Just agreeing that the religion thread in Ask/Tell is an excellent place to take any questions on the history or present status of various denominations. As long as you aren't an rear end in a top hat, it's quite possibly THE most chill place on the Internet on this entire topic. seconding this. also can this be "religion/christianity thread" for gbs? CPL593H posted:American Christian Conservatives aren't Christians at all. They're a twisted death cult. It's why the so called "pro-life" people don't concern themselves with war, the death penalty, or any of the numerous epidemics of childhood poverty and the skyrocketing numbers of suicides and ODs especially among young people and especially among young LGBTQ people. And they're all too eager to vote for saber rattling politicians who never met a social program they didn't gut. this. basically American uber Christians used to be super progressive(for the times) but then in the 20s post temperance bullshit, they took a hard swerve right. also they blew up after all the segregationsists jumped on religious schooling because its the last to desegregate. hell, some still are segregated i believe.
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Feb 14, 2022 13:04
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well where are they It might have been on Behind the Bastards, but the loophole they use is the school will accept one black person, who usually leaves the year after due to racism, then they’ll accept one more the next year, and so on to avoid the legal part of it.
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Feb 14, 2022 14:10
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Anne Whateley posted:Scientology isn't a Christian denomination. It's like asking where Judaism or Islam are on the chart. Woosh
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Feb 14, 2022 14:16
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Remember when Josh Duggar was like "what are you guys looking for? Was someone downloading child porn or something?"
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Feb 14, 2022 15:36
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:I'd love to know why Black Mormons put up with a religion that historically considered them subhuman and blocked them from holding the priesthood until the loving 80s. WHY? Because some of you get a planet after you die?! A planet is cool and all but I'm not paying Human God Space Taxes to the Kolabian administration if it spent its entire existence insulting me. 
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Feb 14, 2022 16:22
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RC and Moon Pie posted:The leadership usually isn't quite as lovely about LGBTQ issues, but they've been on the verge of a schism on it for some time. The Catholics also ran Canada's Indigenous genocide program and help nazis flee persecution after WWII
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Feb 14, 2022 16:26
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bobjr posted:It might have been on Behind the Bastards, but the loophole they use is the school will accept one black person, who usually leaves the year after due to racism, then they’ll accept one more the next year, and so on to avoid the legal part of it. thats insane and depressing. gently caress insane religious chuds. like they are just bigots who believe in a puritanical blood god.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:27
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Feb 14, 2022 16:47
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Anne Whateley posted:Scientology isn't a Christian denomination. It's like asking where Judaism or Islam are on the chart. I always assumed they were ostensibly Christian on account of the giant cross on top of their creepy blue building 
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Feb 14, 2022 17:39
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They want it to suggest legitimacy, but notice those bonus spikes? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_cross
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Anne Whateley posted:Stolen from The Economist. This one is pretty good because it shows you the time periods as well as the relationships. It's also super simplified, of course -- you can write a ton of doctoral theses on this. The terms you're looking for are "Protestant denominations" I'm beginning to think, even more so, that religion is a mistake and a huge joke at this point.
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sigher posted:I'm beginning to think, even more so, that religion is a mistake and a huge joke at this point. You should see the flowchart of Linux distributions One of which Josh used to download pornography outside of view of his nanny religious tattling software
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Feb 14, 2022 19:26
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Remember when Josh Duggar was like "what are you guys looking for? Was someone downloading child porn or something?" I posted a little about this in the other thread before it was closed for this one but I still cannot believe he said that now that we know what that little shack looks like. I pictured a bustling car dealer with offices, salesmen with those computer with swivel monitors for showing things to customers, a service center with workstations for pulling up part diagrams, parts and service sales terminal computers, maybe even some guest computers or guest wifi or something, but LOL how could it NOT be him in that little hell shack with ONE ROOM let alone ONE COMPUTER???
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Luxrage posted:I posted a little about this in the other thread before it was closed for this one but I still cannot believe he said that now that we know what that little shack looks like. I pictured a bustling car dealer with offices, salesmen with those computer with swivel monitors for showing things to customers, a service center with workstations for pulling up part diagrams, parts and service sales terminal computers, maybe even some guest computers or guest wifi or something, but LOL how could it NOT be him in that little hell shack with ONE ROOM let alone ONE COMPUTER??? Yeah, I definitely thought it was a glass-walled building like literally every car dealership I've been to, and not some junkyard outhouse, like Jim Bob's soul.
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Calling what he ran a "dealership" is beyond kind. Even calling it a car "lot" feels too good. A car tragedy, maybe?
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Ralph Hurley posted:a spunkyard Pull-a-prick
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sigher posted:I'm beginning to think, even more so, that religion is a mistake and a huge joke at this point. The scary thing is I am convinced history would be worse without it.
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Ralph Hurley posted:I always assumed they were ostensibly Christian on account of the giant cross on top of their creepy blue building To further muddy the waters, there is also The First Church of Christ Scientist. Commonly known as the Christian Scientists. They have a "reading room" in my suburb, (strangely enough just next to the pub and near the footy oval).  I always used to get them confused with the Scientologists. But it turns out they are just another brand of nutbar Christians who disagreed with a separate brand of nutbar Christians so had to make their own super special Jesus club.
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Aren't Christian Scientists against medical care and stuff. Like... science?
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Ralph Hurley posted:a spunkyard Gonna go down to the local Dick 'n' pull.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Aren't Christian Scientists against medical care and stuff. Like... science? When you believe the material world is an illusion it is hard to understand how science can be involved at all.
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Phone posting so don’t have a link but Christian Science folk were almost single handed responsible for getting religious exemptions for vaccines normalized back in the ‘70’s.
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Christian science is kind of horrifying: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/06/christian-science-church-medicine-death-horror-of-my-fathers-last-days
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Smugworth posted:You should see the flowchart of Linux distributions Wonder which version of Linux he was using? Probably Linspire or some weird fuckin’ thing he found on a “how to download porn so your family wouldn’t see it” site. Also if Josh was the “computer guy” of the family, the rest of the kids are absolutely screwed with their educational prospects.
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CPL593H posted:American Christian Conservatives aren't Christians at all. They're a twisted death cult. It's why the so called "pro-life" people don't concern themselves with war, the death penalty, or any of the numerous epidemics of childhood poverty and the skyrocketing numbers of suicides and ODs especially among young people and especially among young LGBTQ people. And they're all too eager to vote for saber rattling politicians who never met a social program they didn't gut. this is a common sentiment but frankly although it seems appealing and comforting its actually a very dangerous sentiment because rather than identifying Christianity as a religion that can be identified as having a particular set of beliefs and rituals such as God existing in a trinity, original sin, the crucifixion etc. it instead simplifies everything to Christianity == good/things i like non-christian == bad/things I don't like. It reinforces the same Christian supremacist worldview that the Christian Conservatives you look down on hold since by equating Christianity with good morality you're placing it on a pedestal above other religions. it's also not really good from a theological perspective either since I mean you think you have the power to determine who is and isn't a Christian. You think you hold the power of excommunication? Your personal preferences are the same as god's? You're certain?
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funeral home DJ posted:Wonder which version of Linux he was using? Probably Linspire or some weird fuckin’ thing he found on a “how to download porn so your family wouldn’t see it” site. It was just ubuntu, there were screenshots.
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BrigadierSensible posted:To further muddy the waters, there is also The First Church of Christ Scientist. Commonly known as the Christian Scientists. They have a "reading room" in my suburb, (strangely enough just next to the pub and near the footy oval). These used to be fairly common in the US. Used to be something that would be referenced in media as something everybody just knew about. That was a long time ago though.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:it's also not really good from a theological perspective either since I mean you think you have the power to determine who is and isn't a Christian. You think you hold the power of excommunication? Your personal preferences are the same as god's? You're certain? I am smarter, handsomer, and more powerful than God so yes.
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