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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I've found the "I'm not owned, you're owned" titles of porn videos to be quite amusing over the last couple of years:
"Sexy Ukrainian gets destroyed by big Russian dick"
"Ukrainian cuck watches as hot girlfriend takes enormous Russian dick"
etc
etc


It's nice to know that porn producers/recyclers have found a way to make money from the geopolitical situation.

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I'm leaving this at the top of the page, since it goes well with the thread title

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bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
dabir more like da bears

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
I'll freely admit that I am almost entirely ignorant on the topic and don't really understand the Russia/Ukraine situation, but it's not clear to me why the UK & US are arming anyone there, or really are involved at all.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

big scary monsters posted:

I'll freely admit that I am almost entirely ignorant on the topic and don't really understand the Russia/Ukraine situation, but it's not clear to me why the UK & US are arming anyone there, or really are involved at all.

They're standing up for the right of Ukraine to decide its own foreign policy without interference telling Putin he's the leader of a bitch loser country so he better get in line or Russia gets bled dry, though chances are if things get too hot they'll just chicken out and tell the Ukrainians good luck with whatever amount of missiles get left behind

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

kingturnip posted:

I've found the "I'm not owned, you're owned" titles of porn videos to be quite amusing over the last couple of years:
"Sexy Ukrainian gets destroyed by big Russian dick"
"Ukrainian cuck watches as hot girlfriend takes enormous Russian dick"
etc
etc


It's nice to know that porn producers/recyclers have found a way to make money from the geopolitical situation.

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I'm leaving this at the top of the page, since it goes well with the thread title

:catstare:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

big scary monsters posted:

I'll freely admit that I am almost entirely ignorant on the topic and don't really understand the Russia/Ukraine situation, but it's not clear to me why the UK & US are arming anyone there, or really are involved at all.

A war would practically wipe out all previous agreements on which the European security system is based on (OSCE and others in which they are all signatories in), i.e. that countries don't go invading and annexing their neighbours. This would be a massive crisis, leading to new militarization wave akin to the Cold War. Then there's the likelihood of a few million Ukrainian refugees coming to Poland.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Cookie Cutter posted:


Dabir posted:
In this case, not arming the neo Nazis would mean not arming everyone else too.

oh no this sounds terrible

Actually it is cool and good that nationalist revanchism is back: if a country decides to issue a diplomatic warning that there will be serious consequences for a neighbour joining a defensive pact and then mass troops on the border, outsiders should keep their stupid faces out of it.

Like, manufacturing consent is a thing and one should always be properly suspicious of their governments and friendly media stoking belligerence but come the gently caress on, the proximate cause for the UK press signal-boosting angry nationalist Ukrainians (who, being angry nationalists, are bound to have a lot of fascists in their ranks) is that Russia has, verifiably, (1) annexed part of Ukraine in the last few years; and (2) issued a diplomatic request that Ukraine promise not to join NATO and that NATO retreat from the rest of the former Warsaw Pact countries such as Poland, Lithuania and Latvia (the latter probably is just a “gently caress you” and not a real request, but still). Source: The Russian Foreign Ministry’s website.

Russia also appears to have massed troops on the border, which is a thing you do if someone else is about to invade you (not obviously the case right now) or if you are about to invade someone else.

I think all this stuff is relevant to the UK thread really; the UK is part of NATO and it’s relevant that non-NATO countries are warning their neighbours not to join or else, and formally sending out draft agreements that require NATO to pull back to pre-1997 borders. It’s all part of a general erosion of norms that probably got started when Bush invaded Iraq.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1493195912507793408

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Not watched the video, but this picture makes me laugh:

https://twitter.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1493155090835849218

Feels like some specific fetishes are being catered to.

Cookie Cutter
Nov 29, 2020

Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Beefeater1980 posted:

Diplomatic warning that there will be serious consequences for a neighbour joining a defensive pact

This is not a warning, it is just a plain statement of how Article 5 works, which Putin seems to understand better than the western media. Ukraine is in an active territorial dispute. If it joins NATO (it won't) that means all the member states automatically get pulled into a war with Russia. NOBODY wants this.

Beefeater1980 posted:

Russia also appears to have massed troops on the border.

Based on US satellite photos of already-existing training bases 100km+ from the actual border and the subsequent guesswork + hype of US intel analysts.

Beefeater1980 posted:

NATO retreat from the rest of the former Warsaw Pact countries such as Poland, Lithuania and Latvia (the latter probably is just a “gently caress you” and not a real request, but still

NATO promised never to expand into these countries after the wall fell and kept that promise for all of 5 seconds. So who's the expansionist?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Comrade Fakename posted:

Not watched the video, but this picture makes me laugh:

https://twitter.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1493155090835849218

Feels like some specific fetishes are being catered to.

Zarah Sultana DESTROYS Dishi Rishi with enormous socialist dick!

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Nenonen posted:

But enough about Brexit.

The UK forgot the making demands part though

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

I'm about to leave for work, but if anyone knows the article that explains the exact process by which NATO is arming Ukraine and how it does involve them being able to vet who within the country actually gets the gear, I'd love to see it, that sounds like an interesting read. I'm the first to admit I suck at Google, but the most detailed thing I could find was an article about training exercises designed to bring Ukraine's military "up to NATO standard in preparation for their joining", published on a Tanzanian website called "The Citizen" last August. Not a website I'd heard of before and that's a bit out of date by now. Whatever Rusty's thinking of must have been swamped by news articles about the general situation for me.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles
If there's one word I wish I could ban from the media it would be "destroyed". I have come to utterly detest that word. Like, the gold standard for "destroyed" would be "senator, you're no Jack Kennedy", and nothing I've seen the word "Destroyed" attached to in the last 10 years even rises close to that level.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


Forums poster Reveilled absolutely DEMOLISHES clichéd word use in media

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

If i could ban one word from the media it would be "the" because gently caress you

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

suck my woke dick posted:

The UK forgot the making demands part though

We've done little else since 2016, but thankfully seem to have forgotten the password to the Tridents.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Cookie Cutter posted:

NATO promised never to expand into these countries after the wall fell and kept that promise for all of 5 seconds. So who's the expansionist?

This is false Russian propaganda, you know?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

goddamnedtwisto posted:

We've done little else since 2016, but thankfully seem to have forgotten the password to the Tridents.

It's the phone number to the White House.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Reveilled posted:

If there's one word I wish I could ban from the media it would be "destroyed". I have come to utterly detest that word. Like, the gold standard for "destroyed" would be "senator, you're no Jack Kennedy", and nothing I've seen the word "Destroyed" attached to in the last 10 years even rises close to that level.

WATCH: Reveilled DESTROYS the Word "Destroyed" (VIDEO)

Lmao I didn't bother reading any further posts because I was in too much of a rush to make the obvious joke

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Jedit posted:

It's the phone number to the White House.

I think the idea that we have a phone number gives us more agency than is strictly true

There's a phone that we answer.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

https://twitter.com/hepcatsector/status/1493157100855324675?t=lLwvBg-BDj6H8aIe7hH1Zw&s=19

Unfortunately isn't actually part of the pitch, but if it was then I'd probably go watch it.

the leader of Momentum is an actual no-lie blood-sucking vampire, now let me tell you all about those horrible leftist antisemites

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Nenonen posted:

This is false Russian propaganda, you know?

My understanding is that an ambassador suggested something of the sort to Gorbachev, "given the current international situation", but he didn't have the power to make promises like that, they never got it in writing and in any case Gorbachev is long gone, as is that international situation.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries
https://twitter.com/marclister3k/status/1380169852292378630?s=21

This keeps circulating on Twitter now the figure head of the vigil arrests is popping back up.

For the first time I can’t tell if I’m getting sucked into some vast conspiracy, that there are links between fascists and genuine police agitator plants or it’s all just some weird conspiracy.

My guess is it’s some where very in between, with grifters hijacking protests.

Cookie Cutter
Nov 29, 2020

Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Nenonen posted:

This is false Russian propaganda, you know?

A conversation was had. Whether that was binding or not is subject to debate. But either way the expansion itself did happen and massively outweighs any accusation of "expansion" that can be aimed at Russia.

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

Cookie Cutter posted:

So who's the expansionist?

Pretty sure the expansionist is Russia, what with it annexing territory from Ukraine.

JoylessJester
Sep 13, 2012

"Just come to the negotiating table stop being unreasonable.... no of course those old agreements don't count, lol"

I wonder why no one trusts the west.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Imagine being a literal Labour Party MP and being against strikes lmfao.

I know it's hardly a cutting point to make in 2022, but you do wonder what party these people think they're part of.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Well given the reason that Rachel Johnson forgave Maxwell I'd imagine that she got to watch her Brother dry hump Kurt Zouma.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Cookie Cutter posted:

A conversation was had. Whether that was binding or not is subject to debate. But either way the expansion itself did happen and massively outweighs any accusation of "expansion" that can be aimed at Russia.

One of these expansions has taken the form of countries asking to join and being approved. Tbe other has taken the form of covert funding to separatist movements followed by rolling in the "peacekeeping" tanks, and statements like... Well, this.

Vladimir Putin posted:

During the recent Direct Line, when I was asked about Russian-Ukrainian relations, I said that Russians and Ukrainians were one people – a single whole. These words were not driven by some short-term considerations or prompted by the current political context. It is what I have said on numerous occasions and what I firmly believe.

Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said

Dabir posted:

I'm about to leave for work, but if anyone knows the article that explains the exact process by which NATO is arming Ukraine and how it does involve them being able to vet who within the country actually gets the gear, I'd love to see it, that sounds like an interesting read.

google (the now concluded) operation orbital for uk-specific; the Americans are/were running similar training exercises. where these things over-step into providing actual combat support who's to say. pallets of AKs are scrap-metal in waiting without the associated know how

aside from being on the ground deciding who you teach room-clearing drills to there are a host of political measures you can take such as saying our continued support is contingent on you not openly passing arms to neo-nazi groups thanks

Rustybear fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Feb 14, 2022

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

ThomasPaine posted:

Imagine being a literal Labour Party MP and being against strikes lmfao.

I know it's hardly a cutting point to make in 2022, but you do wonder what party these people think they're part of.

Strikes are wrong at a time when negotiations are ongoing

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
Given how the last time Russia invaded it did so with little fanfare how likely is it that all the Ukraine shenanigans is going to end with half of Lithuania seceding to join Russia.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Dabir posted:

One of these expansions has taken the form of countries asking to join and being approved. Tbe other has taken the form of covert funding to separatist movements followed by rolling in the "peacekeeping" tanks, and statements like... Well, this.

Are you going to pretend that someone believing in a pan-slavic identity is inherently horrifying? I'm pretty sure this thread is going to have a decent amount of people who aren't exactly against Tito, or Nasser, or Haile Selassie, or Malcolm X, or describing themselves as Europeans while cheerfully confronting people who would gatekeep that identity and shared history.

The statement is only controversial because of how Russia has acted on that belief in Georgia. He may as well have said holubsti was the ideal food

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
See the silly thing is, I wonder if most of the people in the post-Soviet countries would, in the early 1990s, have been more than happy to remain united with one another. Obviously there were exceptions like in the Baltics, but the CIS always felt like a top down imposed thing to me for many. If you asked your average Ukrainian back then if they wanted independence, I'd be shocked if a majority said yes. Most of the USSR was against the breakup at the time, but a minority of nationalists were able to force through secession in all the chaos.

Obviously that has no bearing on 2022 politics, but it's interesting to think that had things gone only slightly differently the idea of a Russia-Ukraine conflict would be a laughable absurdity.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/MPFed/status/1493198362199343104

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

I saw this on Twitter this AM. What the hell is this even about?

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Rustybear posted:

google (the now concluded) operation orbital for uk-specific; the Americans are/were running similar training exercises. where these things over-step into providing actual combat support who's to say. pallets of AKs are scrap-metal in waiting without the associated know how

aside from being on the ground deciding who you teach room-clearing drills to there are a host of political measures you can take such as saying our continued support is contingent on you not openly passing arms to neo-nazi groups thanks

I'll look this up after work, but it sounds like what the article I already found was describing. For now I'd just like to point out that "a simple Google search will show that NATO is handing troops directly to neo Nazis" seems to have turned into "a simple Google search with the right keywords will show that we were training the Ukrainian army to use our guns, but stopped."

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

CommieGIR posted:

I saw this on Twitter this AM. What the hell is this even about?

It appears as though a criminal gang has an issue with a democratically elected mayor.

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Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said

Dabir posted:

I'll look this up after work, but it sounds like what the article I already found was describing. For now I'd just like to point out that "a simple Google search will show that NATO is handing troops directly to neo Nazis" seems to have turned into "a simple Google search with the right keywords will show that we were training the Ukrainian army to use our guns, but stopped."

it's not the same but good luck with your googling!

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