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I wish they'd taken more cues from how the actual Mods dressed. Have a weird mix of classy high culture suits and dresses, and baggy canvas bomber jackets
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Mandrel posted:I guess it probably would have helped to have a quick scene/shot of them meticulously detailing their scooters in between action. but it also feels like the kind of thing you could really take or leave in editing and could just as easily assume the viewer doesn't need to be told. for all the complaining people have about "Show, don't tell," a lot of viewers very clearly want to be told That's not what "show don't tell" means. Telling would be Boba having a line like "Those Mods, always cleaning their scooters".
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Feb 14, 2022 18:41
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Butterfly Valley posted:and their costuming being way too similar to irl fashion. The main one is just wearing a straught up leather jacket. Is this like Finn and Poe wearing straight up leather jackets or han solo wearing straight up pants and a vest???  The main 2 mods are the guy who is wearing a japanese-kimono style shirt and the long coat that most of the others wear & Drash has the cut off leather vest that is highly customized with a paint job & various pins. I don't think any of this is "close to IRL fashion" Gravitas Shortfall posted:That's not what "show don't tell" means. Telling would be Boba having a line like "Those Mods, always cleaning their scooters". He gets it, the point is that the show probably DID need boba to do that so everyone would be like "ohhhh ok"
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Feb 14, 2022 18:42
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Jerkface posted:He gets it, the point is that the show probably DID need boba to do that so everyone would be like "ohhhh ok" tbh, Fennec Shand is the series designated deliverer of exposition.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:47
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The mod kids were great. They were surprising and jarring given the context we've normally seen on Tatooine, but that's what was cool about them. They didn't want to dress like all the dirty people around them who've given up on themselves. They have pride. Mos Espa isn't just a pit of misery, there are people living there who have aspirations. And those people are punks who've chosen their own way, people who aren't satisfied with the status quo. At least, that's how I immediately and emotionally read those characters. It's all visual shorthand, and I can see how it might not resonate the same way if that particular association doesn't come to you, because they only get a couple lines of verbal development. Tatooine is an anarchic planet. This show was all about what power structures and cultures thrive and conflict with each other in a lawless world. "Crime bosses" are the closest thing to a government in the cities, all politics are based on personal relationships, people naturally band together and use force to take advantage of others, or to defend themselves. The Book of Boba Fett made Tattoine feel alive, mainly through a bunch of brief visual impressions. The Mods were a great addition to that tapestry. Plus they were cool as heck. They dressed in black and had robot hands! Awesome! They could definitely have used more development though. Showing them interacting with more groups would definitely have helped emphasize how neat they were thematically.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:47
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Foreground left is closest to/most evocative of the mods, I'd say it would be more successful if they'd leaned more that direction than the biker aesthetic. I know I'm repeating myself at this point, sorry, I just find these guys interesting for some reason.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:47
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It probably didn't help that the bikes they rode looked like something out of a Saturday morning kids show and any scene with them riding them was either embarrassingly slow and boring like that first chase that was mocked relentlessly or they were shot in a way that made it clear they were riding on a green screen. I was fine with their outfits and them as characters, but I don't care what you're referencing from real life with the bikes if your execution looks like absolute garbage and something I'd expect from a low budget Syfy show.
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Feb 14, 2022 19:05
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The bikes being big and bulky like a jetski was not to m taste either. Not sure how, but it made them feel cheap
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Feb 14, 2022 19:14
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Sure, the mods were a poor execution of a better idea. But as far as the list of poorly executed things from the show, it's so far from the top of the list. Their goofiness barely even registers to me compared to, say, Boba's lack of clear motivations, plans, or opinions about anything that's happening.
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Feb 14, 2022 19:16
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Jehde posted:"It's a reference to real life!" is a pretty weak defence of something in a sci-fi. Shiny mopeds stick out like a sore thumb on grungy tatooine, simple as. I kinda liked the explanation that they're rich kids from coruscant or whatever, but that didn't end up working out. Would've been better if they just did some more design passes on the mods instead of stopping at "what if a specific niche historical british sub culture, but hover scooters" the defense of it isn't that it's a reference to real life, it's that it's not inconsistent with the universe or setting. the real life thing is just to illustrate a comparison the counterpoint is that it's actually very cool
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Feb 14, 2022 19:25
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Eiba posted:The mod kids were great. They were surprising and jarring given the context we've normally seen on Tatooine, but that's what was cool about them. They didn't want to dress like all the dirty people around them who've given up on themselves. They have pride. Mos Espa isn't just a pit of misery, there are people living there who have aspirations. And those people are punks who've chosen their own way, people who aren't satisfied with the status quo. hell yeah dude
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Feb 14, 2022 19:34
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Eiba posted:Plus they were cool as heck. They dressed in black and had robot hands! Awesome! Apart from one guy using his eye once and another one inspector-gadget-ing his foot into a speeder, did they DO anything with their mod parts? Like, did Drash actually use her robot arm? The mods were just one more of many interesting ideas that didn't actually pay off. drat it, the more time I spend thinking about this slapdash show, the angrier it makes me.
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I choose to believe that the fact they "didn't fit in" with the "everything is brown and tan" Tatooine aesthetic as a deliberate choice meant to tell us something about these characters who deliberately get conspicuously cyborgified. That seems to make more sense than the notion everyone involved in production design forgot what tatooine looks like for exactly one set of characters/props out of dozens. Like, literally every subculture of kids on earth goes to some effort to not fit in with anyone but each other. When I was in high school a million years ago the stoners wore ripped flannel and beat up henleys so they wouldn't be mistaken for the jocks in their jerseys and polo shirts. The goths, well, you know what a goth looks like. Though I agree a little nod to the amount of effort they'd have to go into to keep a candy gloss chrome bike looking cherry on Sand World would have been good. But we didn't get a deep exploration of the titular character, let alone a cadre of supporting ones.
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Feb 14, 2022 19:40
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The real problem with the mods is that they exist to fill out a part of Fennec's backstory, where did Boba find a Cyberdoc on Tatooine? Which of all the things the story could spend time on was not a question that anyone was asking. And now they're a part of Cobb's backstory as well, because we have this cyberdoc character now. The shiny scooters are what people fixate on because that's the most obvious symptom of this weird underdeveloped subplot.
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Feb 14, 2022 19:42
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I like the space hot rods in aesthetic, good to have some colour. I think they're stupid because they go slightly faster than walking. Sometimes. Mostly not.
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Feb 14, 2022 19:50
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Boba: why the gently caress are you so slow Mods: mate we just cruise around drunk on these
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Feb 14, 2022 19:56
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you'd think that if Boba is rolling in credits, he'd be able to hire more people than the Wookie and like eleven Mods
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Feb 14, 2022 20:16
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galenanorth posted:you'd think that if Boba is rolling in credits, he'd be able to hire more people than the Wookie and like eleven Mods Yeah tbh the weirdest part for me is that some other rando didn't roll in and slaughter him in the first episode.
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Feb 14, 2022 20:20
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stev posted:Yeah tbh the weirdest part for me is that some other rando didn't roll in and slaughter him in the first episode. Rando Calrissian
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galenanorth posted:you'd think that if Boba is rolling in credits, he'd be able to hire more people than the Wookie and like eleven Mods The whole set up is weird. They even show it as a bustling place full of guards under Bib, so you understand kind of the scale of a Jabba's Palace operation. Then Boba Fett, career hired gun turned gun hirer needs to be reminded if you have credits you can hire guns-- and still doesn't seem to do much but bring on a wookiee and the Kirkland brand Boba Fett who somehow surpassed him in the fandom.
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The girl mod, who I assume has a name, was... Presented? Marketed? as being a major character and did she even have 10 total lines?
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Dave Syndrome posted:Apart from one guy using his eye once and another one inspector-gadget-ing his foot into a speeder, did they DO anything with their mod parts? Like, did Drash actually use her robot arm? Favreau needs to just hire this thread as consultants
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Feb 14, 2022 20:59
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mdemone posted:Favreau needs to just hire this thread as consultants a 50 minute episode with no A or B stories thats just exclusively exposition just boba fett on a dark stage with a mic and a stool taking questions from the audience
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Feb 14, 2022 21:18
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Mandrel posted:a 50 minute episode with no A or B stories thats just exclusively exposition Swear to Christ I would pay to go to that show with Temuera in character
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Feb 14, 2022 21:53
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He'd make it five minutes before getting a bunch of bois together for a haka.
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Before he answer, he’s required to say “I ammmmmm Bobba Fett.”
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And then somehow refer to Tatweeeeeeen, 'cuz I just love the way he says it.
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Is this Americans being weird about other accents existing again because sure he sounds kiwi, I wouldn't have thought it worth remarking on
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It’s not his accent, it’s the way he seems to hold certain parts of words to give them weight. It’s a particular cadence to his speech that, say, Sam Neill or Taika Waititi don’t have. I think it owns though, I’m not knocking it at all.
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Yeah, it's not accent, it's meter, like having a character who only speaks in iambic pentameter. I dig it, it is awesome and feels right for the character.
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Feb 15, 2022 01:47
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It is like he (the character) in the stickler that says "Ha-wah-ee" instead of "huh-why-ee."
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He’s just loving cool, man.
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While the show has plenty of problems, I really like Tem in the role and it’s a shame to see people online dunking on him for his pronunciations or not being a ripped 30/40 something.
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Sentinel Red posted:While the show has plenty of problems, I really like Tem in the role and it’s a shame to see people online dunking on him for his pronunciations or not being a ripped 30/40 something. Yeah he's wasted in most of the show but really shines in the Sandpeople scenes.
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Jedi have a weird habit of just shouting in dismay as someone dives backwards to their death as opposed to, like, force-pulling them. I get the dramatic beat, but dang if it doesn't come off a little absent-minded
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Brawnfire posted:Jedi have a weird habit of just shouting in dismay as someone dives backwards to their death as opposed to, like, force-pulling them. I get the dramatic beat, but dang if it doesn't come off a little absent-minded I fall off a cliff. My Jedi friend Force Pulls me, so I have one final indignity of being smashed face-first into the side of the cliff before continuing on to my death below.
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Sure, but they're like "yo I'ma jump" and Anakin or whoever will be like "ah no!!! poo poo!" and then the person yeets themselves to the streets of Coruscant, seems slow on the draw
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Brawnfire posted:Jedi have a weird habit of just shouting in dismay as someone dives backwards to their death as opposed to, like, force-pulling them. I get the dramatic beat, but dang if it doesn't come off a little absent-minded The Force is like a transporter in Star Trek. If you actually had characters use it like it clearly can, things get weird fast. Like why even fight Grievous when you could just rip his arms off? A team of Jedi working together could literally dismantle him.
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I always loved it when the Jedi would team up to Force something-or-other in unison. And how the Sith/Inquisitors sucked rear end at it and would cross purposes
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Sash! posted:The Force is like a transporter in Star Trek. If you actually had characters use it like it clearly can, things get weird fast. Or do what Luke did to one of the Dark Troopers and just crush him. They could, they just don't for the story.
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