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klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

Koskun posted:

So you are wanting something so you can use a single mouse and keyboard on multiple computers? Synergy is still around, but it's paid only now. Microsoft has Mouse without Borders for free, and works great.

synergy was forked and continues to be free and open source as barrier now:

https://github.com/debauchee/barrier/releases

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El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

Toe Rag posted:

Yeah I think this is the way to go as I assume you have one monitor connected to each computer? I just have a single monitor. I used to use this KVM but I am now using this one. I don't think I've seen a KVM that supports dual monitors, since the idea behind is to use one monitor (and kb/m) with two or more computers. If your monitors are daisy chained then the KVM shouldn't notice/care afaik.

Yeah I think that Sabrant is probably more like what I need.

Ideally with a KVM the monitors (or at least one) would swap too. Also, I really like my mechanical keyboard, so I'm not super keen on swapping out for a logitech keyboard/mouse combo.

Also, since one of the machines is an employer-owned laptop I have limited access as to what I can install on that one, which is why a physical switch would work better for me.

Corin Tucker's Stalker
May 27, 2001


One bullet. One gun. Six Chambers. These are my friends.
I've been keeping an eye out for a sale on those Husky desks for two months now. They're already pretty cheap, but I just know that if I buy one there will be a deal within a few weeks.

benisntfunny
Dec 2, 2004
I'm Perfect.

Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:

I've been keeping an eye out for a sale on those Husky desks for two months now. They're already pretty cheap, but I just know that if I buy one there will be a deal within a few weeks.

Home Depot return period is like 90 days. Also it’s not as if you are going to get them for 50% off or something and they’re fairly cheap already. I’d just take the leap and enjoy the desks now than cross your fingers till an unknown future date.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

benisntfunny posted:

Home Depot return period is like 90 days. Also it’s not as if you are going to get them for 50% off or something and they’re fairly cheap already. I’d just take the leap and enjoy the desks now than cross your fingers till an unknown future date.

yeah don’t, like, use no desk for a year to save $25

Mofabio
May 15, 2003
(y - mx)*(1/(inf))*(PV/RT)*(2.718)*(V/I)

benisntfunny posted:

Home Depot return period is like 90 days. Also it’s not as if you are going to get them for 50% off or something and they’re fairly cheap already. I’d just take the leap and enjoy the desks now than cross your fingers till an unknown future date.

You can also just steal from Home Depot and no one gives a poo poo. Let the suckers wait for a deal, take your 100% discount.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Mofabio posted:

You can also just steal from Home Depot and no one gives a poo poo. Let the suckers wait for a deal, take your 100% discount.

you gotta be pretty brazen to just shoplift a desk

Mofabio
May 15, 2003
(y - mx)*(1/(inf))*(PV/RT)*(2.718)*(V/I)

Ok Comboomer posted:

you gotta be pretty brazen to just shoplift a desk

It's Home Depot, no one cares. You could ask an orange vest to help you get it to your car. If you need gameface practice you can fill up one of the homer buckets as practice and just walk it out the door. Come back later for the desk.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
I mean, I know they’ll let you do it.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Are those desks even in store? I ordered my last one online and picked it up in the receiving bay.

It just barely fit in the trunk of my Chevy Malibu. In box even!

Corin Tucker's Stalker
May 27, 2001


One bullet. One gun. Six Chambers. These are my friends.

Ok Comboomer posted:

yeah don’t, like, use no desk for a year to save $25
Haha, yeah. Once a few weeks went by this was exactly what I thought. I just kept holding out "for one more day" for a lot of days.

IUG posted:

Are those desks even in store? I ordered my last one online and picked it up in the receiving bay.

It just barely fit in the trunk of my Chevy Malibu. In box even!
I don't think they are. At least in my area, the site shows a "ship to store" option and none in already in stock.

Shartweek
Feb 15, 2003

D O E S N O T E X I S T
Rearranged the desk today trying to fit my new toys using things I had laying around the house. Looking into potentially building a custom desk riser to match the Karlby or finding something pre-made that will suit my needs. Ideally I would have the speakers also resting on the same shelf the monitor is on, but I found these bed frame risers in the garage and they'll do for now.



Goony as hell but I dig it, I need to get something up on the walls though.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Coolnezzz posted:

Rearranged the desk today trying to fit my new toys using things I had laying around the house. Looking into potentially building a custom desk riser to match the Karlby or finding something pre-made that will suit my needs. Ideally I would have the speakers also resting on the same shelf the monitor is on, but I found these bed frame risers in the garage and they'll do for now.



Goony as hell but I dig it, I need to get something up on the walls though.

put those speakers on yoga blocks in the color(s) of your choice (~$5-8 on Amazon) and they'll look a lot nicer/more stable

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Coolnezzz posted:

Rearranged the desk today trying to fit my new toys using things I had laying around the house. Looking into potentially building a custom desk riser to match the Karlby or finding something pre-made that will suit my needs. Ideally I would have the speakers also resting on the same shelf the monitor is on, but I found these bed frame risers in the garage and they'll do for now.



Goony as hell but I dig it, I need to get something up on the walls though.
hell yeah i’ve had those same polk bookshelf speakers in my 5.1 setup for like a decade now

Shartweek
Feb 15, 2003

D O E S N O T E X I S T

Ok Comboomer posted:

put those speakers on yoga blocks in the color(s) of your choice (~$5-8 on Amazon) and they'll look a lot nicer/more stable

Thanks for that, I looked around the house for something soft I could stand / buffer them on but couldn't find anything, these look great.

TenementFunster posted:

hell yeah i’ve had those same polk bookshelf speakers in my 5.1 setup for like a decade now

I love them, from wall mounted home theater speakers to studio monitors in a tiny bedroom, they sound so good.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Mofabio posted:

It's Home Depot, no one cares. You could ask an orange vest to help you get it to your car. If you need gameface practice you can fill up one of the homer buckets as practice and just walk it out the door. Come back later for the desk.

By all means, steal all you want from big box stores, but two thoughts. 1) let's try not to do a mycrimes.txt, and 2) it makes threads that talk about things that have a price tag pretty annoying to participate in if every conversation about cost gets met with "it's free, just steal it." So if we could, let's please try to keep "just steal it" out of SH/SC, not as a moral statement, but to keep threads from devolving into soley discussions about stealing things.

Mofabio
May 15, 2003
(y - mx)*(1/(inf))*(PV/RT)*(2.718)*(V/I)

Internet Explorer posted:

By all means, steal all you want from big box stores, but two thoughts. 1) let's try not to do a mycrimes.txt, and 2) it makes threads that talk about things that have a price tag pretty annoying to participate in if every conversation about cost gets met with "it's free, just steal it." So if we could, let's please try to keep "just steal it" out of SH/SC, not as a moral statement, but to keep threads from devolving into soley discussions about stealing things.

It would actually be really awesome if the forum dedicated itself to stealing computer equipment. Microcenter afterhours door keys, come ups from work. Favorite keygen chiptunes. NFTs. I hope you reconsider.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Mofabio posted:

It would actually be really awesome if the forum dedicated itself to stealing computer equipment. Microcenter afterhours door keys, come ups from work. Favorite keygen chiptunes. NFTs. I hope you reconsider.

leave Microcenter alone, we need them solvent and not in decline. They’re all we have left in that space

Also, I just want to clarify: I have zero moral compunction against shoplifting from a place like Home Depot. More of a practical/awkwardness one

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

When I was a kid we used to dumpster dive the office supply store and got a bunch of free 5 1/4 discs, hell yeah

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Mofabio posted:

It would actually be really awesome if the forum dedicated itself to stealing computer equipment. Microcenter afterhours door keys, come ups from work. Favorite keygen chiptunes. NFTs. I hope you reconsider.

I won't, sorry, and I'm not really looking to debate the topic.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

Mods acting like cops, who’d have thought

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

Reactor: Online
Sensors: Online
Weapons: Online

ALL SYSTEMS NOMINAL
Hey thread. I could use some bouncing around of ideas concerning my study. I may be moving out of here in a year or two, so I'd like to keep spending low. I also live in a third world country shithole so any links you throw my way will only serve illustrative purposes.

Is is currently a mishmash of poo poo that ended up here as I replaced furniture in other parts of the house and never got rid of, so let's ignore the now and focus on the future, alright? :v:

This is how it is currently (lovely picture and mess, I know. Quit zooming in).



Sewing machine table is there because my CPU has top fans and I'm terrified I'll drop liquid into it so I got it off the ground. Other table is there to serve as... a surface, pretty much. Need to set down stuff somewhere.

Doors on the right are sliding and open out to the balcony, wall not in the picture has the door to the room and a wardrobe, so it's unusable.

So, here's option A:

Get a 1.80 x 40 table, same height as my desk, and make an L shaped desk that goes right up to where both doors to the balcony meet. That way I can still use the shelves, put the computer under the table and maybe even get a cabinet below it. It would also give me a good work surface with natural light from the window. I never open that half of the balcony door because it's too close to the end of the balcony and if it rains water gets in. This also leaves some room to put a nice chair and set up a reading nook/place I can use the laptop from.

Option B:
Get something like this:

And use it to set the CPU on at the side of the desk. Gives me a (lower than the desk) surface to set poo poo on and some drawers, but leaves that weird space between that and the shelves which is not quite enough for the chair.


This is pretty much what I've come up with so far; I'm open to any and all suggestions.

Edmond Dantes fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Feb 15, 2022

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Edmond Dantes posted:

Hey thread. I could use some bouncing around of ideas concerning my study. I may be moving out of here in a year or two, so I'd like to keep spending low. I also live in a third world country shithole so any links you throw my way will only serve illustrative purposes.

Is is currently a mishmash of poo poo that ended up here as I replaced furniture in other parts of the house and never got rid of, so let's ignore the now and focus on the future, alright? :v:

This is how it is currently (lovely picture and mess, I know. Quit zooming in).



Sewing machine table is there because my CPU has top fans and I'm terrified I'll drop liquid into it so I got it off the ground. Other table is there to serve as... a surface, pretty much. Need to set down stuff somewhere.

Doors on the right are sliding and open out to the balcony, wall not in the picture has the door to the room and a wardrobe, so it's unusable.

So, here's option A:

Get a 1.80 x 40 table, same height as my desk, and make an L shaped desk that goes right up to where both doors to the balcony meet. That way I can still use the shelves, put the computer under the table and maybe even get a cabinet below it. It would also give me a good work surface with natural light from the window. I never open that half of the balcony door because it's too close to the end of the balcony and if it rains water gets in. This also leaves some room to put a nice chair and set up a reading nook/place I can use the laptop from.

Option B:
Get something like this:

And use it to set the CPU on at the side of the desk. Gives me a (lower than the desk) surface to set poo poo on and some drawers, but leaves that weird space between that and the shelves which is not quite enough for the chair.


This is pretty much what I've come up with so far; I'm open to any and all suggestions.

Option B would leave me feeling trapped, so I like option A better.

For Option A, your desk and the shelves are about the same depth, so you don't need another table. Scoot your existing desk over next to the shelves and use the sewing machine table to provide a work surface to your right/in front of that half of the balcony door.

In a brainstorming sense, I guess you could move the chair in front of the closet doors, and do something else with that corner, but I personally like having more open space in my work areas.

plester1
Jul 9, 2004





Edmond Dantes posted:




This is pretty much what I've come up with so far; I'm open to any and all suggestions.

Side question: how did you generate these layouts? I might want to go through a similar exercise with my own workspace.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Edmond Dantes posted:

Sewing machine table is there because my CPU has top fans and I'm terrified I'll drop liquid into it so I got it off the ground.

I've done this and it sucks something fierce. :(

Also the big perk of option A is that you can spin left and put your feet up while still sitting at the computer, and that makes that the clear winner IMO.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

Reactor: Online
Sensors: Online
Weapons: Online

ALL SYSTEMS NOMINAL

LLSix posted:

For Option A, your desk and the shelves are about the same depth, so you don't need another table. Scoot your existing desk over next to the shelves and use the sewing machine table to provide a work surface to your right/in front of that half of the balcony door.

In a brainstorming sense, I guess you could move the chair in front of the closet doors, and do something else with that corner, but I personally like having more open space in my work areas.
Lmao, I actually went "...wait I can already do this" as soon as I posted the plan. I may do a trial run this weekend.

The chair anywhere but at the corner would need to be moved/walked around every time I want to get to the closet or to the balcony, so not a fan of that.

plester1 posted:

Side question: how did you generate these layouts? I might want to go through a similar exercise with my own workspace.
http://urbanbarn.icovia.com/frontend/index.html
If you make an account/log in you can save your projects. It has a bunch of generic furniture you can resize so it's a great way of eyeballing spaces.

You can toggle "show all tools" on top right to change units (under View) and do some other more fancy stuff.

Khizan posted:

I've done this and it sucks something fierce. :(
I've literally never spilled liquid on my desk, but what if I do.

I can just adjust the shelves, so I'll probably lower the bottom one (with the shoe box in the picture) and put the CPU there. Should keep it safe but accessible enough and leave a wee bit of room below the shelf for some power strip management.

Khizan posted:

Also the big perk of option A is that you can spin left and put your feet up while still sitting at the computer, and that makes that the clear winner IMO.
I already do that, I just plant my feet on the desk :v:

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
Hello thread. I don't really know where to ask this, but thought you might have opinions: can anyone recommend a decent under-desk keyboard tray? Ideally something that's about 26"+ wide and mounts from the underside rather than clamping on the front edge of the desk. Examples of what I'm considering are this and this.

I know these things aren't everyone cup of tea, but I had to embrace the two-monitor life and simply need to sit further back to make the new setup useful. About the only solution I can think of is a sliding tray.

Thanks in advance, and let me know if there's a better place to ask. Maybe the keyboard thread?



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edit:

Toe Rag posted:

I don't think I've seen a KVM that supports dual monitors, since the idea behind is to use one monitor (and kb/m) with two or more computers.

Just got this for that purpose and it appears to work well!

Trabant fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Feb 16, 2022

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

Toe Rag posted:

Yeah I think this is the way to go as I assume you have one monitor connected to each computer? I just have a single monitor. I used to use this KVM but I am now using this one. I don't think I've seen a KVM that supports dual monitors, since the idea behind is to use one monitor (and kb/m) with two or more computers. If your monitors are daisy chained then the KVM shouldn't notice/care afaik.

Actually almost all enterprise KVMs have some form of chaining ability, allowing you to cascade KVMs behind KVMs, but also to switch multiple KVMs on one input. They are expensive tho

Koskun
Apr 20, 2004
I worship the ground NinjaPablo walks on

Trabant posted:

Hello thread. I don't really know where to ask this, but thought you might have opinions: can anyone recommend a decent under-desk keyboard tray? Ideally something that's about 26"+ wide and mounts from the underside rather than clamping on the front edge of the desk. Examples of what I'm considering are this and this.

I know these things aren't everyone cup of tea, but I had to embrace the two-monitor life and simply need to sit further back to make the new setup useful. About the only solution I can think of is a sliding tray.

Thanks in advance, and let me know if there's a better place to ask. Maybe the keyboard thread?

I've made my own on a few desks, and the result has lasted well over a decade now. I got a Stair Tread. Down side is they aren't that deep, usually just less than a foot and they have a nice rounded edge. Plus if you want, you can get fancy with the type, but Pine will be the cheapest.

Most any big-box store would be willing to cut it to length for you for a minimal cost (maybe free if it isn't busy).

A small drill, and you can mount it as is. If you want to stain or paint it, a sheet of plastic and an afternoon would accomplish that easy enough.

As to hardware, this is not what I got, but I found something just like it for, uhh, 1/3 that price. Keyboard Slide.

I didn't check Amazon because I didn't want to dig through all the listings. But for 30-40 bucks, you could have a nice solid wood keyboard tray.

Oh, a tip to install it if it is just you. If you have a pneumatic chair, put it across the arms, lower the chair, slide it in, then pop the chair up. It will be enough tension to hold it there while you mark the holes.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
Thanks for the suggestion -- I do appreciate it.

Unfortunately, some basic CAD (cardboard-aided design :v:) makes me think I'm probably out of luck trying to get a flat/in-out tray working. It looks like the combo of desk height + knees + chair means I'm probably best served by something that will let me do something like this "slide and lift" thing:



And while I'm not afraid of DIY solutions (I built my own desk), the mechanics of that are beyond my abilities...

Koskun
Apr 20, 2004
I worship the ground NinjaPablo walks on
In hindsight, I should of mentioned that two of the desks I did that to I raised in height by putting casters on (they are big desks and I wanted to make them easier to move). So when I put the tray under the top, it was at the "normal" desktop height.

I used to have a tray like what you pictured. It worked pretty well, and with some adjustment there are slide-out like in that picture that should go up when extended and be close to even with the desk top. Cheapest I saw with a quick google would be 60 or so US.

Maybe put some 2" casters on your desk, then the tray then would be at the right height? :eng101:

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down


Closely approaching nirvana. The monitor lamp is a godsend since the giant fuckall ultra wide blocks most of my ceiling light.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

doesn't pointing the desk lamp down like that wash out the monitor color and make a glare?

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Inept posted:

doesn't pointing the desk lamp down like that wash out the monitor color and make a glare?

I thought it would too, but surprisingly it doesn't have any impact on the display. It comes out just enough and and at the right angle.

I also don't generally use the computer completely in the dark with that light, it supplements what doesn't come through from the ceiling light or window.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Koskun posted:

Maybe put some 2" casters on your desk, then the tray then would be at the right height? :eng101:

Ah... about that:



That was a glamour (?) shot after I built the desk, just as we moved into this place. Unfortunately, casters aren't in the cards for the foreseeable future :v:


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A note regarding my recommendation from before:

Trabant posted:

Just got this for that purpose and it appears to work well!

Keep in mind that KVMs don't always like laptop docks, esp. if along the way you're having to convert DisplayPort to HDMI or something like that. One thing that helped me is getting an active HDMI-DP adapter rather than a standard "passive" one. That played well with my Lenovo USB-C dock.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


For a number of years, I've been using a tempered glass L desk, except I've just been using the 2 wings side by side to form sort of a long desk. The left side is for my personal dual monitor setup, and the right side is for dual monitor WFH. This photo is a bit outdated but gives a sense of the setup:


I was working on the right desk when this randomly happened today:


I have no idea how it happened, but I've had the desk for about 12 years and it's been through 3 moves in U-Hauls, so maybe there was a small chip or microfissure that decided today was a good day to die.

For a replacement, something with simple, clean lines would be ideal. I don't have a budget but <$300 would be nice. The combined length of both wings was ~80", depth ~24", desk surface height ~29". I don't think I need a single surface, as 2x40" would probably be cheaper and easier to move around. I also need to decide if I want to replace the WFH side since I'm worried its surface is also a ticking time bomb.

edit: This is probably a good stop gap for the time being: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/linnmon-tabletop-white-00251135


The default would be to go with the black-brown, but I'm intrigued by the white, though it might be a weird contrast with my walls.

Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Mar 1, 2022

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
I've seen a tempered glass surface in a holiday house, that gets used 1 month per year and doesn't have anything resting on it the rest of the time, spontaneously shatter and the next time we arrived we didn't have a dining table.

Koskun
Apr 20, 2004
I worship the ground NinjaPablo walks on

Josh Lyman posted:

For a number of years, I've been using a tempered glass L desk, except I've just been using the 2 wings side by side to form sort of a long desk. The left side is for my personal dual monitor setup, and the right side is for dual monitor WFH. This photo is a bit outdated but gives a sense of the setup:

If you are willing to maybe do a bit of touch-up work (depending on how worked over it's been during it's life), I'd take a look at used desks. There aren't many that don't have a top that is removable somehow, and since you have the legs, wouldn't take too much to modify those legs to keep a wood top secure (metal drill bit and long screw really, or maybe a conduit clamp).

Something like an executive desk/old school desk might be just the size you are looking for, maybe bigger. A cheap saw would trim it to size rather easily (if you don't have the space/tools, a local lumberyard or hardware store would probably do it for cheap), and you can either touch up the edge, or just put the cut edge against the wall.

I'd also look and see if there are any used office equipment stores near/around you. I've got a couple not an hour drive away from me, and they have a small warehouse full of desktops of all sizes. They go from 40 on up, depending on size.

This is if you can transport something 3'x6' that is. Even if you can't, a place like Menards rents out trucks for something like 20 bucks for an hour and a half I think it is. All in it would still be cheaper than something from Ikea or a Butcherblock.

One thing I would do is see if you can find something close to the weight limit for those legs. Those desks weren't ever made to the highest of standards, so adding a wood top, plus all the equipment... It shouldn't be an issue, but might be something to look at.


E - Another thing, maybe a bit outside the box, to look at would be a used kitchen counter top. A remodeling salvage place or if you have a Habitat Resale Store near you. I've a friend that used an old kitchen counter top for his desktop, just had to remove the backsplash. It ended up looking really slick (it had a fake granite top on it). Durable as all hell too, and easy to clean.

Koskun fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Mar 1, 2022

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004

Josh Lyman posted:

edit: This is probably a good stop gap for the time being: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/linnmon-tabletop-white-00251135

The default would be to go with the black-brown, but I'm intrigued by the white, though it might be a weird contrast with my walls.


I have a couple of the cheap electronic standing desk frames and use these tops. They're entirely fine, and even look nice. My personal desk uses a white top and I really like it. I think I paid $140 for the desk frame on top of whatever Ikea wants for the table top. Bonus is the desk frame has support bars underneath so it ends up being sturdier than using normal Ikea legs.

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Budgie
Mar 9, 2007
Yeah, like the bird.
The LINNMON table top is a good temporary solution. I had a 150x80cm version of that with the cheapest legs and after 14 months of use it definitely wasn't a flat surface any more. This was with a dual monitor setup and placing the PC directly above the legs. Glad to have my BEKANT back, the metal frame and solid desk top mitigate the bowing that happened over time.

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