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Cugel the Clever posted:I thought the "Americans are completely unable to understand the world without America at its center" line from the last thread was a little overblown, but oh boy have all the posters who suddenly popped up to use this crisis as a backdrop against which to whine about Biden proven me wrong. Buddy, a massive military movement combined with an un-negotiable ultimatum is obviously a farce and not worth responding to.
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TheBuilder posted:West can afford it. Meanwhile Russians continue to live in poverty on levels that don't make sense for a nation with such resources Russia or the West? You decide!    
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TipTow posted:Russia or the West? You decide! Wild that people live like this. I guess it is just the deep seated protestant mentality of apathy that prevents them from overthrowing their system. So sad.
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Feb 15, 2022 16:36
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There's poverty in the US, therefore all countries are equally poor, QED
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steinrokkan posted:There's poverty in the US, therefore all countries are equally poor, QED You can make up whatever bullshit strawmans you like. Raskolnikov expressed displeasure at the money the U.S. has been and will be spending on this, TheBuilder said "the West can afford it" and tried to buttress that position by juxtapositioning Russian poverty, and I was pointing out that poverty exists in "the West," too, which is why some Westerners may be unhappy about their government spending money on more war.
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I'm glad for the United States to rebuff Russia or China at the costs spent so far.
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TipTow posted:You can make up whatever bullshit strawmans you like. Raskolnikov expressed displeasure at the money the U.S. has been and will be spending on this, TheBuilder said "the West can afford it" and tried to buttress that position by juxtapositioning Russian poverty, and I was pointing out that poverty exists in "the West," too, which is why some Westerners may be unhappy about their government spending money on more war. America has a military budget of $715 billion. Russia's is $48 billion.
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TheBuilder posted:I'm glad for the United States to rebuff Russia or China at the costs spent so far. This is a fascinating look into the Anglo mentality. Due to religious beliefs in predetermination, dating to pre-modern times, many Anglos, in most Anglo states, simply view whatever the powerful authority does as good and godgiven. It is definitly a necessary cultural component to understand their seemingly irrational beliefs. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Paladinus posted:I imagine foreign leaders just don't trust Russian doctors with shoving anything into their noses. Probably not that justified, but whatever, security protocols are weird. It's just a ridiculous and paranoid demand and is probably just being denied for that reason, rather than fear over DNA sequencing, which if Not-Merkel was really concerned with he shouldn't be going to Russia at all since Putin could get his DNA from a pillowcase or a seatback or a fork. The most likely reason for the Russian demand is the parallel nationalist paranoia on the Russian side: that Chancellor Not-Merkel might conceal having covid either because he doesn't care if he infects the Russian government or he is trying to infect them on purpose.
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According to David Arakhamia, Zelenskyi's party's faction leader in Rada, the 'war hysteria' costs Ukraine $2-3 billion a month. Hope US and the UK will be willing to provide financial aid when the full scale invasion doesn't happen.
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FishBulbia posted:This is a fascinating look into the Anglo mentality. Due to religious beliefs in predetermination, dating to pre-modern times, many Anglos, in most Anglo states, simply view whatever the powerful authority does as good and godgiven. It is definitly a necessary cultural component to understand their seemingly irrational beliefs. PSA: Opposing Russia is Good
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Paladinus posted:America has a military budget of $715 billion. Russia's is $48 billion. Hmm... That doesn't seem right... Military expenditure as percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) in highest spending countries 2020 
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Goddamn, I actually went down that stupid rabbit hole and looked up the WikiLeaks cables and apparently the state department under Clinton did indeed systematically collect DNA sample of politicians.quote:Data should include email addresses, telephone and fax numbers, fingerprints, facial images, DNA, and iris scans. https://www.theguardian.com/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/202678
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Feb 15, 2022 17:12
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GABA ghoul posted:. Or the US president, who famously even gets their turds collected from a portable toilet by a secret service agent out of the same fear. Really? God drat, I thought South Park was a parody of real life, not a documentary comic. (Episode: Turd Burglars.)
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Hmm... That doesn't seem right... Looks good, last time Russia overcommitted to an arms race worked so well!
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Saladman posted:Really? God drat, I thought South Park was a parody of real life, not a documentary comic. (Episode: Turd Burglars.) There was at one time a concern a foreign country could learn about the president's health from their waste. I don't know if that's still done.
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Hmm... That doesn't seem right... America's GDP is 14 times that of Russia.
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Russia says it’s begun partial troop pullback from Ukraine border; NATO urges cautionquote:o Moscow is beginning to return troops at the Ukrainian border to their bases, the Russian government has announced.
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Feb 15, 2022 17:29
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Has it been confirmed that only the accounts of Nazis and Neo Nazis have been compromised in this righteous hacking?
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It's kind of funny to think about Slick Willy ordering the secret service to collect his empty Coke bottles in case a foreign head of state is trying to steal his DNA, and then going out to the strip club with his buddy Boris to spooge on some blue dresses
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Paladinus posted:America's GDP is 14 times that of Russia. America consists of 50 states represented by 100 senators, all of whose prime responsibility is to bring defense contracts to their home state. And thus F-22, F-35, Zumwalt...
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https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1493602139846893577 cocktease
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Hmm... That doesn't seem right... It never ceases to amaze me how much money my shithole country spends on the military for how loving lovely and useless they end up being. They can’t even win against the poorest Arab country after what, seven loving years?
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To be fair, there was always a high chance that the Privatbank ATM in my town just wouldn't work or not have enough money. Especially during holidays. Oschadbank was more reliable that way when I had to pay rent.
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https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1493573094698631172?s=20&t=tiaL-pcKZGDUcGkflnXz4A As much as I want there to be peace, Russia has said they were withdrawing before and didn't do it. We can't breath easy until it's actually over.
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Hmm... That doesn't seem right... saudi arabia here quietly spending germany in the 1930s amounts on their military btw (and has been for the better part of a decade)
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Herstory Begins Now posted:saudi arabia here quietly spending germany in the 1930s amounts on their military btw (and has been for the better part of a decade) And yet somehow having one of the worst most incompetent armies on the planet lol
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CommieGIR posted:Might be because if you don't join NATO, Russia has a habit of invading, pulling a color revolution, or whatever is the flavor of the day for Putin. Mysteriously, very few cases where NATO does the same. LMFAO
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Few such cases!
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TheBuilder posted:I'm glad for the United States to rebuff Russia or China at the costs spent so far. You're a freak
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GABA ghoul posted:Goddamn, I actually went down that stupid rabbit hole and looked up the WikiLeaks cables and apparently the state department under Clinton did indeed systematically collect DNA sample of politicians. Her emails! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nenonen posted:America consists of 50 states represented by 100 senators, all of whose prime responsibility is to bring defense contracts to their home state. And thus F-22, F-35, Zumwalt... It's not like Russian projects fare any better.
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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1493502755440570370 For people who didn't catch the crank, a number of Southern Military Districts training grounds are actually farther from the border rather than closer. The announcement is also conflating WMD and SMD forces rtbing with general de-escalation, when there's also forces from the Northern, Central, and Eastern Military Districts encircling Ukraine.
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How many times did Russia say they were withdrawing from Syria and yet kept bombing it daily?
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https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-696579 The video montage is pretty hilarious. Never knew it was possible to have multiple camera angles for a random IED find.
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Gros Tarla posted:https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-696579 I'm grateful they protected those 4 pigeons from being blown up by that pile of sticks.
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