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Winifred Madgers posted:I think you'll find Mordor is actually a dead ringer for Ohio. HELL IS REAL
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So is Barad-dûr in Cleveland or Toledo?
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Feb 16, 2022 16:08
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Barad-dûr is Ohio Stadium.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, the travel through middle earth is basically a trip backwards through English history, starting in the quaint Regency, moving back through Elrond'd high medieval House, then the dark ages of Moria, weird Celtic elves, Saxon Rohirrim, and Minas Tirith as Roman Britain on the verge of fall. That's a nice way of looking at it. And beyond that you have Númenor as an Atlantis or a Troy, and both Britain and Rome (along with a few other European cultures) have legends about having been founded by a Trojan. Though, does that mean that if you go backwards from the Shire, you hit modern Britain? Is Círdan a 20th century figure?
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YaketySass posted:That's a nice way of looking at it. And beyond that you have Númenor as an Atlantis or a Troy, and both Britain and Rome (along with a few other European cultures) have legends about having been founded by a Trojan. Modern Britain as of Tolkien is the Scouring. Bill Ferny is, uh, Boris Johnson? rare photo of david cameron in middle-earth
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Mordor is Ohio checks out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM
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YaketySass posted:Is Círdan a 20th century figure? He does build ships that ignore the curvature of the earth
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TipTow posted:I think BoJo is this guy That guy looks like a good time so absolutely not lol. So the marketing and puff pieces for the upcoming show keep mentioning that the show takes place “thousands of years” before the events of the mainline books. But, if they’ve already compressed a lot of events in the canon to take place at the same time, isn’t that really a moot point?
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In response to the Amazon backlash, I've seen some people go through internet archives and find reactions to the initial Fellowship of the Ring trailer. They were not particularly kind. Tolkien fans never change.
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BigglesSWE posted:That guy looks like a good time so absolutely not lol. its 3k years from the war of the last alliance to the events of LOTR proper. The war of the last alliance is likely the finale of the show, unless it does just gangbusters and they extend it to just keep going into the stories of Arnor and Gondor
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The weirdest thing about the marketing of this show so far has to be the insistence on referring to Isildur as “a sailor” like he’s just some guy. Come on, who are you fooling here?
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skasion posted:The weirdest thing about the marketing of this show so far has to be the insistence on referring to Isildur as “a sailor” like he’s just some guy. Come on, who are you fooling here? Just sailing around claiming my birthright with the boys
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skasion posted:The weirdest thing about the marketing of this show so far has to be the insistence on referring to Isildur as “a sailor” like he’s just some guy. Come on, who are you fooling here? You say that as if the whole show won't end with Isildur taking the ring and there won't be thousands of people saying, " Oooooh he's the guy at the start of the first one!"
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skasion posted:The weirdest thing about the marketing of this show so far has to be the insistence on referring to Isildur as “a sailor” like he’s just some guy. Come on, who are you fooling here? I mean at that point he is just a sailor. He's the son of a nobleman whose family is distantly related to the king. The only thing special about his family is that they were still in contact with Elves. And then Sauron shows up, and he ends up breaking into the palace to steal a fruit(?) of the white tree and smuggled it out of Numenor as the whole place sank into the sea and he becomes a prince and gets his own city.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:In response to the Amazon backlash, I've seen some people go through internet archives and find reactions to the initial Fellowship of the Ring trailer. They were not particularly kind. Tolkien fans never change. This is great. I love the posters who complained that Cate Blanchett is too ugly to be Galadriel quote:Doesn't Celborn look like an a number one WUSS!! Why couldn't they have picked someone with a little more presence. This is a fair point, though.
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Everyone always wondered if he did Teleporno shows but they never asked if he was a top or a bottom.
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YaketySass posted:Though, does that mean that if you go backwards from the Shire, you hit modern Britain? Is Círdan a 20th century figure? Cirdan is still hanging out waiting for the last elf to decide to sail west. He's in the arbitrarily distant future.
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I’m really excited for a human woman/elven man romance because I am loving STOKED at the prospect that vagina tentacles can stop making sense in canon. Well, as canon as the series can be.
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William Bear posted:This is great. I love the posters who complained that Cate Blanchett is too ugly to be Galadriel LMAO! This whole collection is just mind-boggling. People bashing Christopher Lee, Gandalf looking like a crazy street person, the "bastard" Peter Jackson, and all this months before the film came out.
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Tbf the LOTR film trilogy had no business being as good as they were.
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Yeah the funny part is that for as much as “Peter Jackson is a genius” is thrown around by a lot of fans of the films, his movies since haven’t been great. King Kong was maybe the best one? But I haven’t really wanted to rewatch it ever. The Lovely Bones was bad. The Hobbit movies were average to bad. We’re VERY lucky that the films were as good as they were.
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Meet the Feebles however,
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Jackson bought his own hype for a while after LOTR. But who can blame him tbh, they swept Oscars and made gently caress tons of money. Tolkien didn’t exactly start churning out more masterworks after LOTR’s success either, he spent the rest of his (artistic) life doing pretty much whatever he felt like
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The source material for the lotr movies is pretty strong if you ask me. I think that was a big help
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They Shall Not Grow Old is just as good as the Lord of the Rings films, I think, though a very different type of movie. I suppose this is more evidence for the idea that the quality of the source material is a major factor.
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euphronius posted:The source material for the lotr movies is pretty strong if you ask me. I think that was a big help the essentially perfect casting, costume and set design, and pacing helps a ton too. just a master convergence of everything that makes an adaptation film good coming together, intentionally or not. I remember the special effects bring particularly mind blowing at age 11 too
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My friend they were pretty great at 20 as well I still remember downloading that first teaser on our DSL connection and watching the Fellowship hike up over that rise and going, "oh oh poo poo maybe they got it right"
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And I'll repeat what I've said numerous times, which is that my "oh! well. This'll be okay then" moment was right at the beginning: "You're late." "A wizard is never late, Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to." *poker face, then both bust up* Not from the books! But perfect.
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MrMojok posted:LMAO! This whole collection is just mind-boggling. People bashing Christopher Lee, Gandalf looking like a crazy street person, the "bastard" Peter Jackson, and all this months before the film came out. I used to hang out a lot on the OneRing.net boards back then and my recollection is that it was pretty astonishingly negative. All of the garbage in those posts and a lot worse. I was excited for Fellowship, I thought the trailers were pretty great (hell I even saw some lovely movie to watch the second trailer on a big screen) but I knew we were in good hands after the intro section with Cate Blanchett's narration of the Ring's story.
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my bony fealty posted:the essentially perfect casting, costume and set design, and pacing helps a ton too. just a master convergence of everything that makes an adaptation film good coming together, intentionally or not. Don't forget Howard's score! Having watched all the many, many hours of the behind the scenes footage, I'm confident in calling that trilogy the most impressive undertaking ever by a filmmaker. It really is a miracle how great those movies turned out. Am I expecting something similar for Amazon's show? No, but I do hope its at least up there with early Game of Thrones and The Mandalorion as far as big IP shows go. skasion posted:Jackson bought his own hype for a while after LOTR. But who can blame him tbh, they swept Oscars and made gently caress tons of money. Tolkien didn’t exactly start churning out more masterworks after LOTR’s success either, he spent the rest of his (artistic) life doing pretty much whatever he felt like Peter Jackson reminds me of Francis Ford Coppola(Godfather 1 & 2, Apocalypse Now)...two guys who made 3 insanely good movies and not much else afterwards. Gresh fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Feb 17, 2022 |
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Data Graham posted:And I'll repeat what I've said numerous times, which is that my "oh! well. This'll be okay then" moment was right at the beginning: Conversely I knew the Hobbit movies would be dreadful as soon as Martin Freeman completely bombed that scene of Bilbo smoking and talking to Gandalf.
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Phy posted:My friend they were pretty great at 20 as well Word. I still had dialup at the time of the first trailer, and I connected and started downloading the thing at midnight when it first went up. Went to bed and hoped I wouldn’t get disconnected. The next morning, it appeared to have downloaded ok, judging by the file size. I then waited for my dad (who had turned me on to LOTR when I was a kid) to come over during lunch so we could watch it for the first time together. I will never forget that feeling, us smiling at each other and saying “oh poo poo, they may just have pulled this off!”
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I actually didn’t like the first movie when I saw it as a kid. I didn’t “get” it, and it was too long. I liked the following movies more and more, and now I consider the first one to be easily the best. I only started reading Tolkien long after 2003 so I guess that might’ve influenced my initial skepticism.
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People liked his Beatles thing . That was very recent District 9 was very good. King king was good I know people don’t like the hobbit films and they suffer from the source material, but they are made well. They are kind of dumb tho
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Part of me wonders if he'd even have taken the Hobbit job if there wasn't a "giant bugs" scene in the source material
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I’d argue that when explaining expectations of the original trilogy, it’d make more sense to bring up what Jackson had done *before* 2001, but what do I know, time is a circle and all that.
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euphronius posted:People liked his Beatles thing . District 9 is Neil Blomkamp. Jackson produced but if he gets credit for that he also has to take responsibility for Mortal Engines
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Both They shall not grow old and Get Back are great. The latter have that stripped down “show it like it was” feeling, with minimal fluff and voice overs. You have great footage of the greatest band on earth loving around? That’ll do. Reminded me of the Apollo 11 documentary from 2019, also excellent.
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