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https://twitter.com/Fatfish0721/status/1493757691465924612
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Feb 16, 2022 22:25
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The Ukrainian government released this helpful explainer to the Hungarian government to explain their 2019 language law since the Hungarians protested it:On April 25, 2019, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted the Law of Ukraine "On ensuring the functioning of the Ukrainian language as the state language". 278 Members of Parliament of Ukraine voted in favour of the draft law. posted:Ø The law does not discriminate against the languages of national minorities and foreign languages in the territory of Ukraine. Continued. posted:
Zedhe Khoja has issued a correction as of 22:32 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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Feb 16, 2022 22:26
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John Charity Spring posted:yes, socialists became social democrats and communists became eurocommunists and then social democrats (but i repeat myself) and then the social democrats became centre-right liberals or fascists, it's a hellscape That's loving depressing.
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Feb 16, 2022 22:28
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who could have seen this coming https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-jens-stoltenberg-says-russia-threat-is-new-normal/
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Feb 16, 2022 22:29
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KomradeX posted:Have Socialist and Communist parties in Europe been so throughly suppressed that they're unable to make compelling arguments for themselves as everyone's lives get worse worse, no matter how many Right wingers scream Stalin at them? So they're kirst stuck choosing between these meme parties, monstrous fascists, and monstrous liberals Yeah. If you're not on the TV you're not real.
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Feb 16, 2022 22:34
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i say swears online posted:who could have seen this coming I love that the other thread thinks NATO secgens actually represent member-states' opinions and aren't just US mouthpieces.
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Feb 16, 2022 22:35
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*Status hasnt really changed for like 6 years* THE NEW STATUS IS THAT RUSSIA CAN INVADE AT ANY MOMENTMajorian posted:I love that the other thread thinks NATO secgens actually represent member-states' opinions and aren't just US mouthpieces. Franco-german reactions to this mean they are in league with russia 
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Feb 16, 2022 22:39
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Atrocious Joe posted:seems like the thread was over confident about no one caring about the late WW2 relocation of German populations anymore those types of grievances literally never get put to bed, ever.
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Feb 16, 2022 22:39
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e: see below Mantis42 has issued a correction as of 23:01 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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Feb 16, 2022 22:45
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Mantis42 posted:I think the guy is saying 你去回家还是不再 “Are you going home?" and she says 这次回家比赛 “This time, I'm competing at home." Guy: Are you coming home or coming to compete. Gu: This time I'm coming home to compete
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Feb 16, 2022 22:52
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redneck nazgul posted:^^^fucker february ends and there's suddenly a big fat RUSSIA over belarus' border turns out that putin only needed one more month for enough diplomacy mana to dipploannex belarus
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Feb 16, 2022 22:55
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Guy: Are you coming home or coming to compete. lol, queen
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Feb 16, 2022 22:57
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Majorian posted:I love that the other thread thinks NATO secgens actually represent member-states' opinions and aren't just US mouthpieces. Typical American. Always thinking the world revolves around you. please station thousands more of your troops in my country of less than 2 million
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Feb 16, 2022 22:58
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sexpig by night posted:Yea obviously not literally every Russian asset will leave but considering the bulk of the 'invasion force' we're supposed to be scared of is those soldiers on exercise when they leave they won't exactly be in ~attack mode~ any more. Also, Russia and Belarus are already part of Union state and have been progressively when growing closer anyway. Either way, I think this thing is also just stupid in terms of strategy. I mean as all this effort has been pushed into Russia for months, China is only stronger than ever and has strengthen its alliance with Russia. Not to mention a general waste of resources that has done nothing for uniting NATO. If anything the splits in the West has gotten worse and even Kiev is starting to bite back. Also, it doesn’t seem this is going to just end either. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 23:05 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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Feb 16, 2022 22:59
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Guy: Are you coming home or coming to compete. oh I had trouble making out the guy's sentence
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Feb 16, 2022 23:00
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Zedhe Khoja posted:The Ukrainian government released this helpful explainer to the Hungarian government to explain their 2019 language law since the Hungarians protested it: dont miss the education section which legalizes only EU languages for education, of which russian is not one
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Feb 16, 2022 23:03
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XMNN posted:https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1493984457371570181?t=_LryQUvTMlTnQ8oGCnBLKA&s=19 seems the real invasion is the loans the west foisted upon the Ukraine, legitimized by the war terror we created
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Feb 16, 2022 23:06
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Ardennes posted:Also, Russia and Belarus are already part of Union state and have been progressively when growing closer anyway. I'm pretty sure it's driven more by Russiagate grivances and living in a Beltway world than any coherent strategy combined with panic on the domestic front. Even a strategy attempting to fight a two front war would at least try to allocate attention and resources towards easy winnable fights rather than picking a fight with both and giving Russia and China good reasons to stay buddy buddy with each other.
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Feb 16, 2022 23:13
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TipTow posted:Typical American. Always thinking the world revolves around you. please station thousands more of your troops in my country of less than 2 million Yeah this is always my favorite reaction. Cool, go to war with Russia yourselves without our help, dipshits.
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Feb 16, 2022 23:13
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Fleetwood posted:seems the real invasion is the loans the west foisted upon the Ukraine, legitimized by the war terror we created its pretty much like an abusive domestic relationship, the US just ranting and raving insanely at Ukraine, paranoid they're going to be dumped and left for Russia then creating an environment of hostile paranoia so that Ukraine depends on the US even more *destroys Ukraines economy and forces them to take billion dollar loans* you make me do this! i only do this because i love you!
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Feb 16, 2022 23:19
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Danann posted:I'm pretty sure it's driven more by Russiagate grivances and living in a Beltway world than any coherent strategy combined with panic on the domestic front. Even a strategy attempting to fight a two front war would at least try to allocate attention and resources towards easy winnable fights rather than picking a fight with both and giving Russia and China good reasons to stay buddy buddy with each other. I would say also the issue is just devoting so much time and effort to what is to be honest, a minor “front.” Even if DC has a dream of putting intermediate missiles into Ukraine, I have no idea who in NATO would back them on the issue and the real battle is being loss in Asia anyway. The US is simply pivoting itself into circles at this point.
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Feb 16, 2022 23:19
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Why crying wolf is good and necessary The true lesson of The Boy Who Cried Wolf is that tragedy would've been averted if the villagers took all the shepherd boy's claims at face value.
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Feb 16, 2022 23:21
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Ardennes posted:I would say also the issue is just devoting so much time and effort to what is to be honest, a minor “front.” Even if DC has a dream of putting intermediate missiles into Ukraine, I have no idea who in NATO would back them on the issue and the real battle is being loss in Asia anyway. Did they devote a lot of time and effort? Did they even do anything except cry into a microphone and drop a few tons of RPGs?
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Feb 16, 2022 23:22
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The other thread has convinced me eastern-eurodogs are incapable of self governance
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Feb 16, 2022 23:25
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Terminal autist posted:The other thread has convinced me eastern-eurodogs are incapable of self governance I've learned to hate Latvia
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Feb 16, 2022 23:27
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The true lesson of The Boy Who Cried Wolf is that tragedy would've been averted if the villagers took all the shepherd boy's claims at face value. Nah the actual lesson is that you can Cry Wolf if you're able to flood newspapers with propaganda that the wolves are about to eat you in the indeterminate future. Shepard boy should've just bootstrapped and brought a printing press smh.
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Feb 16, 2022 23:27
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Regarde Aduck posted:I've learned to hate Latvia He's definitely made me readjust my European nationality tier list
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Feb 16, 2022 23:35
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Regarde Aduck posted:I've learned to hate Latvia "Eh, can we be like ASEAN countries who knows to shut the gently caress up about geopolitics and make mucho money" "No."
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Feb 16, 2022 23:40
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Ardennes posted:I would say also the issue is just devoting so much time and effort to what is to be honest, a minor “front.” Even if DC has a dream of putting intermediate missiles into Ukraine, I have no idea who in NATO would back them on the issue and the real battle is being loss in Asia anyway. there's sure a lot of flailing and pussyfooting around from a supposedly invincible nation with twice the budget alone spend on cops than the entire Russian military
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Feb 16, 2022 23:44
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It's also potentially (but not necessarily) indicative of media consumption. Moscow-oriented media sticks with the pejorative usage, so folks who are quick to downplay Russia's belligerence while centering complaints about the West and Ukraine will often go with the language they hear most.
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Feb 16, 2022 23:47
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Ardennes posted:I would say also the issue is just devoting so much time and effort to what is to be honest, a minor “front.” Even if DC has a dream of putting intermediate missiles into Ukraine, I have no idea who in NATO would back them on the issue and the real battle is being loss in Asia anyway. so much time and resources are dedicated to this minor front because the US feel they can bully them with little consequence. whereas doing the same to China would most definitely produce a response they wouldnt like. its purely political theatre for domestic consumption leading up to the US mid terms
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Feb 16, 2022 23:48
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sexpig by night posted:It's also potentially (but not necessarily) indicative of media consumption. Moscow-oriented media sticks with the pejorative usage, so folks who are quick to downplay Russia's belligerence while centering complaints about the West and Ukraine will often go with the language they hear most. Where did they get this bullshit psychoanalysis?
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Feb 16, 2022 23:49
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genericnick posted:Did they devote a lot of time and effort? Did they even do anything except cry into a microphone and drop a few tons of RPGs? It is tying naval assets and now some land assets as well, admittedly I don’t think Russia wouldn’t be able to handle them but it is resources that may be tied up in the long term. That said, the bigger deal is probably rifts in NATO itself which are going to have far greater repercussions. Palladium posted:there's sure a lot of flailing and pussyfooting around from a supposedly invincible nation with twice the budget alone spend on cops than the entire Russian military Admittedly, it speaks more to how bloated police budgets are in the US than Russian capabilities. Russia’s military is clearly in much better shape than it once was and could do what the West fears…it just doesn’t make sense for them to do so. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 23:53 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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Feb 16, 2022 23:50
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the US is just throwing a tantrum because they thought Russia was done forever and here they are doing a show of force and all they can do shout "sanctions!" cuz sleepy joe can't risk a single drop of troop blood for the ukraine in the leadup to the midterms
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Feb 16, 2022 23:51
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Lostconfused posted:Where did they get this bullshit psychoanalysis? deep deeeeeeep in their own assholes. See, everyone who says maybe Russia isn't gonna blitz Ukraine must be too stupid because they just watch Russian media, who of course loves to insult noble and sweet Ukraine. It all makes sense! I'm not the idiot, you're just all in a conspiracy against me!
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Feb 16, 2022 23:51
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Raskolnikov38 posted:dont miss the education section which legalizes only EU languages for education, of which russian is not one There's also the fact that nearly half the country has just openly outlawed Russian music/video media/written literature entirely, it's nearly impossible to legally produce Russian language literature in the country and illegal to import Russian books on a commercial scale at all, and every year they outlaw on the national level more and more Russian books which they justified by starting with Dugin, fair enough, but have expanded to basically any random thing they can claim is undermining Ukrainian identity. Like the memoirs of Vladimir Vysotsky, a Soviet musician famous for building relationships with foreign musicians whose family were Kiev natives, specifically those compiled by his Armenian film-making/drinking buddy. I'm not sure how precisely they think its destroying Ukraine, but I'm also not an ethno-fascist.
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Feb 16, 2022 23:53
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joe was one of the main architects of rusophobic 'containment policy' and Russia being able to show they have an army they can wave around and don't give a poo poo about his threats while making deals with China just shows what an utter farce his foreign policy strategy re eastern europe was
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Feb 16, 2022 23:54
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thatfatkid posted:so much time and resources are dedicated to this minor front because the US feel they can bully them with little consequence. whereas doing the same to China would most definitely produce a response they wouldnt like. The thing is there are trying to “bully” their way and it is making a complete mess of things to the point they are actively putting themselves in a weaker position. I don’t think it is having that much of an effect on polling either, especially since inflation is going to be continue to be brutal though 2022.
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Feb 16, 2022 23:54
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Ardennes posted:The thing is there are trying to “bully” their way and it is making a complete mess of things to the point they are actively putting themselves in a weaker position. I don’t think it is having that much of an effect on polling either, especially since inflation is going to be continue to be brutal though 2022. I can solve inflation to my heavily import dependent country by raising tensions with a major world exporter of goods to the 11 I are also very smart
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Feb 16, 2022 23:57
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Conspiratiorist posted:joe was one of the main architects of rusophobic 'containment policy' and Russia being able to show they have an army they can wave around and don't give a poo poo about his threats while making deals with China just shows what an utter farce his foreign policy strategy re eastern europe was He was one of the big brains behind Georgia's poorly thought out attempt to seize South Ossetia. 100% record of gently caress ups and losses on foreign policy.
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