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Field Mousepad posted:Oh hey a show based on a video game! Those always go well Yellowstone is complete trash and I can’t help but love it.
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I didn't see a thread for it but the new Netflix show Murderville is very good (depending on your affinity for Will Arnett and improv). Basically, it's a half hour comedy where Will Arnett is a detective who is paired with a detective trainee guest star and they have to solve a murder. Everyone has a rough script except the guest star so there's a lot of improv. Guests like Conan O'Brien and Kumail Nanjiani do as good a job as you'd expect but if you just watch one episode, watch the Marshawn Lynch ep. You'd never expect a former football player to be as loving natural and funny on camera as Lynch is. He's also got more charisma than George Clooney and Obama put together. It's a good time.
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Field Mousepad posted:Oh hey a show based on a video game! Those always go well I think shows based on video games do a lot better than movies based on video games fwiw. I have no faith in the Halo show though, Cuphead comes out soon.
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regulargonzalez posted:I didn't see a thread for it but the new Netflix show Murderville is very good (depending on your affinity for Will Arnett and improv). Basically, it's a half hour comedy where Will Arnett is a detective who is paired with a detective trainee guest star and they have to solve a murder. Everyone has a rough script except the guest star so there's a lot of improv. Marshawn is a goddamn national treasure
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So I want to watch something Sherlock Holmes related. Are there any good shows? I know "Sherlock" is highly rated but I watched this video which made it seem...not good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkoGBOs5ecM But it's Youtube so they may exaggerate. Field Mousepad posted:Marshawn is a goddamn national treasure I wouldn't go that far, but he is far more charismatic and a natural than you'd expect. He's mid-tier in terms of guests which is incredible considering that he isn't an actor or comedian.
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Finished Dollface. There were a few repeat story beats from season one, mainly that characters insecurities prevent them from being honest with eachother and then they make up by the end of a 2 ep arc. Feels like forced conflict when the characters should grow into new challenges. Not that they didn’t grow tremendously (over the few episodes we got) in other ways. So maybe it’s just a limitation on the medium. Maybe better as a book? Anyways it did not feel not as fresh as Man Seeking Woman did at the time. Mostly comparing humor style and subject matter here overall the cast nailed it and the jokes were funny
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regulargonzalez posted:I didn't see a thread for it but the new Netflix show Murderville is very good (depending on your affinity for Will Arnett and improv). Basically, it's a half hour comedy where Will Arnett is a detective who is paired with a detective trainee guest star and they have to solve a murder. Everyone has a rough script except the guest star so there's a lot of improv. I watched this and thought it was pretty funny, then I heard it's based on a BBC show called Murder in Successville. Most of that is on YouTube so I checked them out and it's a lot funnier IMO, not even close.
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A Proper Uppercut posted:I watched this and thought it was pretty funny, then I heard it's based on a BBC show called Murder in Successville. Most of that is on YouTube so I checked them out and it's a lot funnier IMO, not even close. I think the reason the original is funnier is because its less formulaic and they let the main detective just made a complete idiot of himself, with stupid punchlines that he even laughs at. They break character a lot, and it really works. For example there was a scene where one of the background characters was tied up and gagged with his head under a hood, and he made murmuring sounds whenever someone said his character's name, so they could identify who he was. After this happened twice naturally the guest star caught on and called attention to it, and started purposely using the name to elicit the response. They then, instead of moving on with the plot, spent some time to make fun of the tied up guy, breaking the fourth wall and mentioning how they didn't get a real actor for the tied up part, because this was supposed to be "a two minute scene". Playing with the idea that this whole thing isn't real and all rather ridiculous made it even better. Plus, as much as I like Will Arnett, the original detective is a much more fun character. Instead of leaning into the goofball loser aspect that they have going with Arnett, they sort of go full stereotypical "hard-rear end" loose cannon detective, but he's secretly a loser. Murder in Successville is also a LOT harder to solve the mysteries, to the point where I think I got two or three fully correct out of the 8 or so we've watched. The only thing that's hit or miss to me is the "bad celebrity impression" aspect, which is silly and a memorable gimmick but doesn't add a lot, and I think makes some aspects of the show kind of awkward.
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Superrodan posted:I think the reason the original is funnier is because its less formulaic and they let the main detective just made a complete idiot of himself, with stupid punchlines that he even laughs at. They break character a lot, and it really works. For example there was a scene where one of the background characters was tied up and gagged with his head under a hood, and he made murmuring sounds whenever someone said his character's name, so they could identify who he was. After this happened twice naturally the guest star caught on and called attention to it, and started purposely using the name to elicit the response. They then, instead of moving on with the plot, spent some time to make fun of the tied up guy, breaking the fourth wall and mentioning how they didn't get a real actor for the tied up part, because this was supposed to be "a two minute scene". I agree on all those points. I was literally wheeze-laughing at some of the character breaking. Murders definitely more difficult, I don't think I've got any so far. The celebrity impressions are absolutely hit or miss, though I love the police captain as Gordon Ramsay, he just nails it. A Proper Uppercut fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I want to watch something Sherlock Holmes related. It’s been years since I watched it, but there’s a lot to not like about BBC Sherlock. It’s really uneven and I’d probably agree (without watching that video) that it’s generally bad That said, I think it has some good poo poo going for it. Like the few Moriarty episodes are pretty funny. Holmes is written as an asexual and terminally autistic, and Moriarty by contrast is a flamboyantly gay psychopath BBC Sherlock is more episodic than serialized and there were multiple episodes (such as the painfully self-aware, tumblr fan-serving premiere after the Reichenbach finale) I straight up tapped out of bc I wasn’t down w the monster of the week or whatever, but the format lends itself well to that. I’d say give it a shot if you’re interested in the source material As an aside, my last name is Moriarty, and for my entire life I’ve gotten Kerouac / Conan Doyle poo poo from strangers, although in the post-BBC and Guy Ritchie era it’s almost exclusively been the latter. I travel a lot for work and if I check in at hotel early, it’s about an even money bet the clerk will autistically harangue me about their love of BBC Sherlock. It’s insane to me how often this happens. My life is Hell. So I’m massively biased against the source material, and probably the show could be better than I’m willing to give it credit for e: if you haven’t seen it, I think Luther is a better bad BBC show about a detective, fwiw eighty-four merc fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I want to watch something Sherlock Holmes related. I would say the first two seasons are worth a watch. The third season seemed cartoonishly over the top and I had no desire to watch season four aferwards. The show's got its problems, but especially the first season is a relatively grounded interesting new take on the character.
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A Proper Uppercut posted:I watched this and thought it was pretty funny, then I heard it's based on a BBC show called Murder in Successville. Most of that is on YouTube so I checked them out and it's a lot funnier IMO, not even close. Yeah I checked out Murderville as I'm a massive fan of MIS and never get tired of recommending it to my friends. Murderville is fine enough but MIS at its funniest is incapacitating, tears-in-eyes funny. I think a big problem is that Murderville recruited celebrities either far too charismatic or far too experienced to be phased by the improv, there also seemed to be bizarrely little actual improv from the supporting actors. At times it just appears scripted as nothing seems to be spontaneous and no one in the scene bats an eyelid at the stuff that is. MIS frequently goes completely off the rails as already outlined above, usually because they rarely recruit an actual experienced comedian or actor to play the celebrity instead choosing minor reality tv personalities or radio hosts. Their bewilderment and nervousness adds to the chaotic energy and produces some sublime comedy. A good example of what I'm talking about is that Murderville does the "Seattle uses an earpiece to tell the celebrity what to say" in every episode but in MIS it's used exactly once in the first episode, and the scene is honestly one of the funniest things I've ever seen. DI Sleet is forcing the celebrity to say the most insane and nonsensical poo poo, the celebrity can barely get a word out without creasing and the two supporting actors can barely look him in the eye from laughing so hard. But yeah, MIS is amazing and if on Youtube definitely check it out. Superrodan posted:Murder in Successville is also a LOT harder to solve the mysteries, to the point where I think I got two or three fully correct out of the 8 or so we've watched. The only thing that's hit or miss to me is the "bad celebrity impression" aspect, which is silly and a memorable gimmick but doesn't add a lot, and I think makes some aspects of the show kind of awkward. Yeah this bugged me a lot about Murderville too. The mysteries were way too easy and they practically beat the celebrities over the head with the clues. I really missed the gimmick of the celebrity has to shoot who they think the murderer is to death rather than just arrest them. The chief being Gordon Ramsay (helped by how amazing the actor playing him is) was the only time the impressions gimmick worked, never got tired of him yelling "WHAT'S THAAAAAAAAT" at the end of episodes and his exasperation when the celebrity got the solution wrong was always great. SHARON OSBORNE WASN'T EVEN A SUSPEEEEEEEEEECT!! Adrianics fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I want to watch something Sherlock Holmes related. I'd have to agree that Sherlock gets very dumb very quick. Instead, you might enjoy Elementary. It's not high art, but a competently done case-of-the-week procedural where everybody puts in a solid performance. It's particularly nice that Lucy Liu's Watson actually gets to do things. edit: Also just watched Kimi and had a really good time with it. The climax was just  . Not entirely sure how to feel about the whole the weirdo who's been lowkey stalking you is actually cool and your friend subplot, but the rest is good.
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Sherlock is one of those shows thats pretty good in S1-2 and then becomes so bad that it retroactively makes you dislike everything about it to the point where you can't remember what was ever good about it. I've never seen it but I've heard Dexter is similar in that way? Hbomberguy's video is super over the top about it (one of his main complaints is that mystery shows should be about you being capable of solving the mystery yourself which to me is less important than just being an entertaining drama/etc) so its not really a good indicator of what you may love or hate about it, it's more a video for people who suffered through all four seasons and just want some kind of catharsis
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I don't think I've ever actually seen a mystery show where you could logically solve it alongside the detective. If you could, it would probably be really dumbed down for the average viewer and then it wouldn't be much of a mystery.
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Wolfsheim posted:Sherlock is one of those shows thats pretty good in S1-2 and then becomes so bad that it retroactively makes you dislike everything about it to the point where you can't remember what was ever good about it. I've never seen it but I've heard Dexter is similar in that way? Dexter, Game of Thrones, Westworld, Sleater-Kinney's last album
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Perestroika posted:Instead, you might enjoy Elementary. It's not high art, but a competently done case-of-the-week procedural where everybody puts in a solid performance. It's particularly nice that Lucy Liu's Watson actually gets to do things. They even stuck the landing with a satisfying finale. Twice, since they got renewed for a full final season they didn't expect.
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Field Mousepad posted:Oh hey a show based on a video game! Those always go well Oh boy I have good news for you https://twitter.com/NetflixGeeked/status/1493631216788066310?s=20&t=LNzFcdWcyeMWGI3rR0K0dg Arcane reset my hopes for these sorts of projects, which is real bad because they're definitely going to be poo poo.
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GoT still had some high points even in the later seasons, so I don't regret finishing it. Also I am able to still appreciate the show overall despite the greatly mishandled final season. Off the top of my head my picks would be Weeds, Sherlock, Sons of Anarchy, Westworld, Dexter, True Blood, and The Walking Dead. I will say I do have some fond memories still of True Blood and Dexter (to me it peaked with Doakes and it was already going downhill despite the excellent Trinity Killer arc).
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every now and then i have to check Netflix to make sure i didn't fever-dream the entire last season of Sherlock... it's one of those things that absolutely must be seen to be believed as regards how stupid it is
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regulargonzalez posted:Dexter, Game of Thrones, Westworld, Sleater-Kinney's last album I only really saw the first two and last two seasons of Game of Thrones, which was amazing because it was almost like two completely different genres that just happened to have the same actors and character names But I don't think one tarnishes the other, the first couple seasons stand alone as this uniquely interesting thing, and the last two are basically what it would look like if they remade some trashy fantasy show like Xena with a 5000% bigger budget
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I heard I should start with the 1980s British show, but that seems too “retro” for me. I wish Netflix would give Sherlock the Lupin treatment.kazil posted:If you could, it would probably be really dumbed down for the average viewer and then it wouldn't be much of a mystery. Like Murderville?
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So I've watched the first two episodes of Murder in Successville and yeah it's literally Murderville before Murderville. That said the show is much harder to follow and is just "too British" for me. The humor doesn't appeal to me.
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Field Mousepad posted:Marshawn is a goddamn national treasure Take care of your mentals, take care of your chickens
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Everyone ignored my Beforigners post so I assume no one else is watching it but you should. It's good even though it gets silly at the end of the second season.
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mcmagic posted:Everyone ignored my Beforigners post so I assume no one else is watching it but you should. It's good even though it gets silly at the end of the second season. I loved the first season. I'll get around to season 2 eventually. The show is crazy under-rated. Not surprising though as only Netflix seems to have confidence with marketing foreign series.
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Paramount Plus has been doing The Real World Homecoming where they reunite the casts of former seasons in the original house they filmed in. So far they've only done seasons 1 (New York) and 2 (LA), and it was unclear where they would go from here. Danny Roberts from season 9 (New Orleans) just confirmed that his cast filmed season 3 of Homecoming last fall, and that it will air later this year. As a gay elder millennial, Danny was a gay awakening for closeted 16 year old me, and over the years I've talked to many of my friends who felt the exact same way about him. I am very excited to see this one.
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Love is Blind Japan is devastating in a way the US version is not at all. I think because the Japanese contestants seem to put much less emphasis on the physical side of their relationships, so when things inevitably fail it's because of deep emotional issues that they know they have and haven't been able to overcome. The loneliness of this show is palpable, it's so good.
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Just saw Vivarium on Prime and thought it was pretty good. Creepy horror without resorting to jump scares.
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It seemed that Kimi got some decent praise in this thread, but I found it really boring. Didn't realise it was a Steven Soderbergh film until the credits -- it was just not elevated at all for me (well maybe the camerawork when she eventually leaves her apartment). Maybe it was because I have a real bugbear around characters making dumb decisions constantly. I was at least hoping for a decent twist. At least it was short.
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Amarcarts posted:Just saw Vivarium on Prime and thought it was pretty good. Creepy horror without resorting to jump scares. oh yeah, that one slaps
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Honest Thief posted:the moment kanye plays all falls down to rocafella employees and no one's having it lol jeen-yuhs had better get some awards if the remaining two parts are as good as the first.
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Put me in the Sherlock was only good the first two series camp. By the end, they tried to put in so many twists and turns that they didn't realize the noose around their neck that they made. Hell it made Elementary look good at the end and that's as procedural as milk just the way CBS likes it.
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I only watched the first two seasons of Sherlock and in retrospect I think I can only say I liked the very first episode. The Moriarty stuff was dull and the Irene Adler episode was embarrassing to watch. The other two unconnected mysteries were also pretty mediocre.
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Flying Zamboni posted:I only watched the first two seasons of Sherlock and in retrospect I think I can only say I liked the very first episode. The Moriarty stuff was dull and the Irene Adler episode was embarrassing to watch. The other two unconnected mysteries were also pretty mediocre.
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