The Daily Life Of A Certain NEET: It's fine if they think I'm pooping, isn't it?

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Brother Make: Jun 5, 2020; Post more NEET!!!

Brother Make posted:

# ? Feb 16, 2022 23:20

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# ? May 30, 2024 16:12

simplefish: Mar 28, 2011; So long, and thanks for all the ~~fish~~ gallbladdΣrs!

ALFbrot posted:

Are we gonna gently caress, or what

# ? Feb 16, 2022 23:22

Mix.: Jan 24, 2021; Huh? What?

delish

# ? Feb 17, 2022 00:03

Mackerel Cornflake: Mar 26, 2021; Enami was able to
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Unless you're a huge Godzilla fan or have studied Japanese, her last line requires some cultural context in the original language.

She says 「これだから昭和は。」, "Kore dakara Shouwa wa.", "That's why the Shōwa era..." or "That's why [people from] the Shōwa era..."

(It's one of those ambiguous Japanese sentences that ends with a subject particle. In English it kinda comes across as finishing a sentence half-way through your thought, but it's perfectly acceptable in Japanese, which is so context-sensitive that often you can just omit verbs and be perfectly understood. So I'm kinda making a logical leap here to infer what she means, but I'm pretty confident I know what she's getting at.)

Shōwa refers to the years of reign of Emperor Hirohito (1926-1989), whose imperial name was Shōwa. In ye olden tymes, Japan used an imperial calendar system, so instead of having "the year 1600 A.D.", they had "the fifth year of the reign of Emperor Keichō". The imperial calendar system was largely abandoned as Japan entered modernity, but the imperial names themselves persist today as a useful way to divide up historical epochs and criticize the young'uns for "not being as industrious as the Shōwa generation." Or criticize giant monster movies: "The original Shōwa Godzilla films have an energy and sense of fun that the Heisei and Millennium films simply can't replicate."

The Shōwa era covers some of the most turbulent events of Japanese history: Ultra-nationalism, the American Occupation, the Great Economic Miracle, all the way up to the eve of the Bubble Economy Collapse.

So this assistant, in an indirect way, is calling the producer a relic, an old-timer, a dinosaur. In her mind, she's characterizing him as a barking general of the 40s or a heartless industrialist of the 60s. She sees his behavior as unreasonable and out of touch with contemporary Japanese mores, a kind of embarrassing relic of a by-gone era.

So she's kinda saying "Okay Boomer."

Or maybe I'm just projecting too much.

# ? Feb 17, 2022 00:35

Mackerel Cornflake: Mar 26, 2021; Enami was able to
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Too much text. MOAR NEET.

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

# ? Feb 17, 2022 00:43

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

projecthalaxy posted:

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I don't know, if he's going for a Jerry Springer approach you'd expect to ignore criticism and wait for everyone to talk about it the next day.

# ? Feb 17, 2022 01:00

Pham Nuwen: Oct 30, 2010

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

Shōwa refers to the years of reign of Emperor Hirohito (1926-1989), whose imperial name was Shōwa. In ye olden tymes, Japan used an imperial calendar system, so instead of having "the year 1600 A.D.", they had "the fifth year of the reign of Emperor Keichō". The imperial calendar system was largely abandoned as Japan entered modernity, but the imperial names themselves persist today as a useful way to divide up historical epochs and criticize the young'uns for "not being as industrious as the Shōwa generation." Or criticize giant monster movies: "The original Shōwa Godzilla films have an energy and sense of fun that the Heisei and Millennium films simply can't replicate."

Here's a gas tank out of a 1982 Datsun:

The date stamp indicates that it was made in year 56 of Showa era.

# ? Feb 17, 2022 01:13

simplefish: Mar 28, 2011; So long, and thanks for all the ~~fish~~ gallbladdΣrs!

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

Unless you're a huge Godzilla fan or have studied Japanese, her last line requires some cultural context in the original language.

She says 「これだから昭和は。」, "Kore dakara Shouwa wa.", "That's why the Shōwa era..." or "That's why [people from] the Shōwa era..."

(It's one of those ambiguous Japanese sentences that ends with a subject particle. In English it kinda comes across as finishing a sentence half-way through your thought, but it's perfectly acceptable in Japanese, which is so context-sensitive that often you can just omit verbs and be perfectly understood. So I'm kinda making a logical leap here to infer what she means, but I'm pretty confident I know what she's getting at.)

Shōwa refers to the years of reign of Emperor Hirohito (1926-1989), whose imperial name was Shōwa. In ye olden tymes, Japan used an imperial calendar system, so instead of having "the year 1600 A.D.", they had "the fifth year of the reign of Emperor Keichō". The imperial calendar system was largely abandoned as Japan entered modernity, but the imperial names themselves persist today as a useful way to divide up historical epochs and criticize the young'uns for "not being as industrious as the Shōwa generation." Or criticize giant monster movies: "The original Shōwa Godzilla films have an energy and sense of fun that the Heisei and Millennium films simply can't replicate."

The Shōwa era covers some of the most turbulent events of Japanese history: Ultra-nationalism, the American Occupation, the Great Economic Miracle, all the way up to the eve of the Bubble Economy Collapse.

So this assistant, in an indirect way, is calling the producer a relic, an old-timer, a dinosaur. In her mind, she's characterizing him as a barking general of the 40s or a heartless industrialist of the 60s. She sees his behavior as unreasonable and out of touch with contemporary Japanese mores, a kind of embarrassing relic of a by-gone era.

So she's kinda saying "Okay Boomer."

Or maybe I'm just projecting too much.

I really love the translator notes but "lol ok boomer" would be a great speech bubble in panel 2

# ? Feb 17, 2022 01:24

Mackerel Cornflake: Mar 26, 2021; Enami was able to
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through illegal
channels.

Pham Nuwen posted:

Here's a gas tank out of a 1982 Datsun:

The date stamp indicates that it was made in year 56 of Showa era.

That's bitchin'. :cool:

simplefish posted:

I really love the translator notes but "lol ok boomer" would be a great speech bubble in panel 2

I know. I lacked the courage to commit to that one. Felt it would be too egregious. :cry:

I dunno. She's not really being outwardly rude there... you can tell she's kinda nervous to be even thinking it...

edit: Maybe "He's such a Boomer..." or "What a Boomer attitude..." would be appropriate.

Mackerel Cornflake fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Feb 17, 2022

# ? Feb 17, 2022 01:31

Vic: Nov 26, 2009; malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

Unless you're a huge Godzilla fan or have studied Japanese, her last line requires some cultural context in the original language.

She says 「これだから昭和は。」, "Kore dakara Shouwa wa.", "That's why the Shōwa era..." or "That's why [people from] the Shōwa era..."

(It's one of those ambiguous Japanese sentences that ends with a subject particle. In English it kinda comes across as finishing a sentence half-way through your thought, but it's perfectly acceptable in Japanese, which is so context-sensitive that often you can just omit verbs and be perfectly understood. So I'm kinda making a logical leap here to infer what she means, but I'm pretty confident I know what she's getting at.)

Shōwa refers to the years of reign of Emperor Hirohito (1926-1989), whose imperial name was Shōwa. In ye olden tymes, Japan used an imperial calendar system, so instead of having "the year 1600 A.D.", they had "the fifth year of the reign of Emperor Keichō". The imperial calendar system was largely abandoned as Japan entered modernity, but the imperial names themselves persist today as a useful way to divide up historical epochs and criticize the young'uns for "not being as industrious as the Shōwa generation." Or criticize giant monster movies: "The original Shōwa Godzilla films have an energy and sense of fun that the Heisei and Millennium films simply can't replicate."

The Shōwa era covers some of the most turbulent events of Japanese history: Ultra-nationalism, the American Occupation, the Great Economic Miracle, all the way up to the eve of the Bubble Economy Collapse.

So this assistant, in an indirect way, is calling the producer a relic, an old-timer, a dinosaur. In her mind, she's characterizing him as a barking general of the 40s or a heartless industrialist of the 60s. She sees his behavior as unreasonable and out of touch with contemporary Japanese mores, a kind of embarrassing relic of a by-gone era.

So she's kinda saying "Okay Boomer."

Or maybe I'm just projecting too much.

No you were right the first time. Translator's note much appreciated. Depends on if the context will be important later, and in this case I'd guess it's a throwaway reference. You could say "this guy's stuck in the 50s" and the reader knows it's Japan in this context. Boomer is a distinctly American idiom. Conveys the era, but not necessarily the stereotype. Boomers are hella nazi-fashy though so idk.

# ? Feb 17, 2022 01:53

simplefish: Mar 28, 2011; So long, and thanks for all the ~~fish~~ gallbladdΣrs!

yeah no you made the right call i think, the tone of "boomer" wouldnt really fit with her facial expression

# ? Feb 17, 2022 01:53

simplefish: Mar 28, 2011; So long, and thanks for all the ~~fish~~ gallbladdΣrs!

Vic posted:

Boomer is a distinctly American idiom.

not really tbh, its anywhere english speaking i think.

# ? Feb 17, 2022 01:55

Greggster: Aug 14, 2010

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

Unless you're a huge Godzilla fan or have studied Japanese, her last line requires some cultural context in the original language.

She says 「これだから昭和は。」, "Kore dakara Shouwa wa.", "That's why the Shōwa era..." or "That's why [people from] the Shōwa era..."

(It's one of those ambiguous Japanese sentences that ends with a subject particle. In English it kinda comes across as finishing a sentence half-way through your thought, but it's perfectly acceptable in Japanese, which is so context-sensitive that often you can just omit verbs and be perfectly understood. So I'm kinda making a logical leap here to infer what she means, but I'm pretty confident I know what she's getting at.)

Shōwa refers to the years of reign of Emperor Hirohito (1926-1989), whose imperial name was Shōwa. In ye olden tymes, Japan used an imperial calendar system, so instead of having "the year 1600 A.D.", they had "the fifth year of the reign of Emperor Keichō". The imperial calendar system was largely abandoned as Japan entered modernity, but the imperial names themselves persist today as a useful way to divide up historical epochs and criticize the young'uns for "not being as industrious as the Shōwa generation." Or criticize giant monster movies: "The original Shōwa Godzilla films have an energy and sense of fun that the Heisei and Millennium films simply can't replicate."

The Shōwa era covers some of the most turbulent events of Japanese history: Ultra-nationalism, the American Occupation, the Great Economic Miracle, all the way up to the eve of the Bubble Economy Collapse.

So this assistant, in an indirect way, is calling the producer a relic, an old-timer, a dinosaur. In her mind, she's characterizing him as a barking general of the 40s or a heartless industrialist of the 60s. She sees his behavior as unreasonable and out of touch with contemporary Japanese mores, a kind of embarrassing relic of a by-gone era.

So she's kinda saying "Okay Boomer."

Or maybe I'm just projecting too much.

Projecting or not, this is incredibly interesting and I appreciate you for going those extra miles to properly explain your train of thought when translating <3

# ? Feb 17, 2022 02:04

Vic: Nov 26, 2009; malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

simplefish posted:

not really tbh, its anywhere english speaking i think.

When you say Boomer without context you mean G.I. veteran benefits, suburbs, post-great depression and post-ww2 optimism in United States. Nobody thinks of Jamaica or New Zealand. I'm not talking about the actual generation as there was a baby boom all across the world, but the war was very different for Japanese obviously, as it was for the whole rest of the world. Either way it's tied to a different culture, language and country.

# ? Feb 17, 2022 02:23

simplefish: Mar 28, 2011; So long, and thanks for all the ~~fish~~ gallbladdΣrs!

When you say it in the US, sure it has some us-specific connotations

But the "your generation benefited in terms of housing/environment/global exploitation/cheap education/etc" is p universal as a sentiment when calling out boomers

# ? Feb 17, 2022 02:26

Vic: Nov 26, 2009; malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

simplefish posted:

When you say it in the US, sure it has some us-specific connotations

But the "your generation benefited in terms of housing/environment/global exploitation/cheap education/etc" is p universal as a sentiment when calling out boomers

uhhh

not in most of the world

Vic fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Feb 17, 2022

# ? Feb 17, 2022 02:29

simplefish: Mar 28, 2011; So long, and thanks for all the ~~fish~~ gallbladdΣrs!

ok, can't speak to your experience, only from mine

# ? Feb 17, 2022 02:44

Dandywalken: Feb 11, 2014

Greggster posted:

Projecting or not, this is incredibly interesting and I appreciate you for going those extra miles to properly explain your train of thought when translating <3

# ? Feb 17, 2022 05:22

Shadow0: Jun 16, 2008; If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.; Grimey Drawer

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

The imperial calendar system was largely abandoned as Japan entered modernity

Japan finally entered modernity?! O.O I was there recently, and you could still buy floppy disks in major stores.

I feel like "largely abandoned" might be a bit strong; it still sees some use. At the very least, when filling out forms, I sometimes had to select an era when entering my birthday. This was a few years ago though.

# ? Feb 17, 2022 07:09

Brother Make: Jun 5, 2020; Post more NEET!!!

Brother Make posted:

# ? Feb 17, 2022 07:10

Devils Affricate: Jan 22, 2010

"It is frankly astounding how little of a gently caress I give about this guy"

# ? Feb 17, 2022 07:15

Slimy Hog: Apr 22, 2008

Brother Make posted:

Sounds like neet is curious alright...

Isn't there a sticker you can get from that sticker pack that has Izawa with a bunch of hearts around him?

# ? Feb 17, 2022 07:17

Haifisch: Nov 13, 2010; Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!; Taco Defender

Shadow0 posted:

Japan finally entered modernity?! O.O I was there recently, and you could still buy floppy disks in major stores.

The US is technically a modern country even though our banks keep implementing things decades after the rest of the world did(and usually in a worse way than everyone else did), or (insert literally anything about our internet companies here). :shrug:

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

Too much text. MOAR NEET.

It hit me what feels so weird about this: So this is basically like if someone on a reality show in the US suddenly went "HOME FLIPPING SHOWS ARE FAAAAAAAAKE" and it freaked everyone on the station the gently caress out because they're 100% convinced it will result in a huge backlash against that show genre. Instead of it being a thing most people know already and that the people who watch the shows either don't care about or don't believe.

# ? Feb 17, 2022 08:25

Devils Affricate: Jan 22, 2010

I think with stuff related to superstition/spirituality it's felt as more of a personal attack on the audience, because people incorporate these things into their honestly held beliefs about the world. Claiming that house flipping shows are fake just exposes dishonesty in the entertainment industry. House flipping itself is a real thing and you could theoretically make a show about it, it's just easier to make a fake one, so that's what you're watching. Claiming that a superstition is fake targets the viewer for having a fundamentally incorrect belief.

# ? Feb 17, 2022 08:44

DrPossum: May 15, 2004; i am not a surgeon

Brother Make posted:

# ? Feb 17, 2022 13:55

projecthalaxy: Dec 27, 2008; Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son

Brother Make posted:

Not to reveal myself as a lout with no cultural knowledge but... no?

# ? Feb 17, 2022 17:06

Shadow0: Jun 16, 2008; If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.; Grimey Drawer

Notice me, ~~senpai~~ kouhai.

Shadow0 fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Feb 17, 2022

# ? Feb 17, 2022 17:08

Space Kablooey: May 6, 2009

i dunno what's on NEET's chopsticks but it looks like a clump of wet hair

# ? Feb 17, 2022 17:18

AARD VARKMAN: May 17, 1993

I think NEET just needs to chug that beer or they need some shots

# ? Feb 17, 2022 17:30

Mackerel Cornflake: Mar 26, 2021; Enami was able to
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Shadow0 posted:

I feel like "largely abandoned" might be a bit strong; it still sees some use.

You're right. I should've picked a better a choice of words.

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

# ? Feb 17, 2022 21:12

Brother Make: Jun 5, 2020; Post more NEET!!!

Brother Make posted:

# ? Feb 17, 2022 21:20

Umbreon: May 21, 2011

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

You're right. I should've picked a better a choice of words.

What was "rather ballsy" 's original translation? I'm assuming there's no direct word for that in Japanese

# ? Feb 18, 2022 01:18

DrPossum: May 15, 2004; i am not a surgeon

Brother Make posted:

oh well, might as well :neet:

# ? Feb 18, 2022 01:25

Xenocides: Jan 14, 2008; This world looks very scary....

Brother Make posted:

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Same here Tohru. Same here.

# ? Feb 18, 2022 01:42

Mackerel Cornflake: Mar 26, 2021; Enami was able to
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Umbreon posted:

What was "rather ballsy" 's original translation? I'm assuming there's no direct word for that in Japanese

厳しい, kibishii, "difficult, tricky, intense" but when used to describe a person or action can give the impression of "strict, rigid, or doggedly tenacious".

You can tell by the way Oda's speaking that he has a kind of admiration and respect for someone who could put on a shitshow like they just witnessed. So "ballsy" immediately came to mind.

"Rather" is just a qualifier I snuck in because it fit and sounded nice.

It's kinda a stretch. But it sounds like something Oda would say and it's more colorful than simply saying "difficult to pull off".

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

# ? Feb 18, 2022 02:10

Aino Minako: Dec 16, 2007; Perpetual rage elemental

Mackerel Cornflake posted:

We know the artist can draw very fine looking hands, so it must be a deliberate choice to give Oda this grotesque mitt. This is what 40 years of manga illustration does to a person.

# ? Feb 18, 2022 05:34

Haifisch: Nov 13, 2010; Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!; Taco Defender

Aino Minako posted:

We know the artist can draw very fine looking hands, so it must be a deliberate choice to give Oda this grotesque mitt. This is what 40 years of manga illustration does to a person.

Don't forget the careful formation of his snot carpet.

# ? Feb 18, 2022 06:59

Brother Make: Jun 5, 2020; Post more NEET!!!

Brother Make posted:

# ? Feb 18, 2022 08:17

Devils Affricate: Jan 22, 2010

Brother Make posted:

Normally I'd be able to sympathize with this situation, but in this case Tohru and Izawa just went through the same ordeal together, and the whole thing was wrapped in mystery and uncertainty. Seems like something you'd want to talk about!

# ? Feb 18, 2022 09:27

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# ? May 30, 2024 16:12

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Brother Make posted:

�So why don�t we unionize?�

# ? Feb 18, 2022 10:39

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