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lmao, big UIGHUR GENOCIDE hit piece being pushed by the largest national tabloid today did you know the number of innocent victims kept in horrific ccp death camps is now up to three million?
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Feb 17, 2022 22:35
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Al-Saqr posted:why is anyone surprised that chiang Kai sheks son would run for office? this happens all the time. I don't think it's surprise as much as "hey look at this amusing thing in China". Which this thread has been lacking in, because of this stupid invasion scaremongering that just won't stop.
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Feb 17, 2022 22:37
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sexpig by night posted:No, this int about more wealth. Its about cronies unable to access their castles due to sanctions. They paid millions and cant access the property. Second is Putin loves to be a chessmaster, its a meme how he hates to deal with Rusdian internal isdues such as rabid dogs attacking a child or even grown man (a real thing that ru internal news talk a lot about) but is giddy moving pieces around the map lmfao
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Feb 17, 2022 22:38
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Frosted Flake posted:But still, if you must report me, remember that I’m bravely standing against covid and heroically divulged my identity. Please send all complaints to HQ BTY, CFAS, GAGETOWN, NB. Hold the Line, Honk Honk, etc. It's really heartening to hear that NATO militaries have self selected into being useless against a peer enemy thanks to capitalism
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Feb 17, 2022 22:39
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Comrade Koba posted:lmao, big UIGHUR GENOCIDE hit piece being pushed by the largest national tabloid today Lol isn't that more than the entire uighur population?
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Feb 17, 2022 22:40
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Comrade Koba posted:lmao, big UIGHUR GENOCIDE hit piece being pushed by the largest national tabloid today if you can't see them that proves they're there!
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Feb 17, 2022 22:40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLpgY6AGUls
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Feb 17, 2022 22:41
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Lol isn't that more than the entire uighur population? The Uighur population of Xinjiang is about 12 million. If 1/4 of your population disappears, then people are gonna notice.
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Feb 17, 2022 22:42
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Maximo Roboto posted:https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1494374550972223493 The best KMT can do nowadays is picking up some local mayor wins. If Tsai let that Health minister to run for taipei mayor for DPP, failgrandson has a decent chance.
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Feb 17, 2022 22:42
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Uighur population of Xinjiang is about 12 million. If 1/4 of your population disappears, then people are gonna notice. yea it's actually a way crazier lie than 'that's impossible'. If you give an obviously fake number you can make an excuse for it but claiming a loving quarter of people in a province have vanished is something that literally is impossible to hide
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Feb 17, 2022 22:53
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The more I think about it, the problem seems to be this: Israel can afford all of these Iron Dome launchers and reloads to deal with an artillery threat because it’s not their money, and ideologically they aren’t required to accurately evaluate the threat or the effectiveness of Iron Dome. It costs a tonne of money, it doesn’t work that well, all it’s being asked to engage is sporadic firing of a handful of trash rockets. Doesn’t matter, it will be reported as 100% effective against an overwhelming threat, and again, that may be a poor justification for the cost, but Iron Dome exists in a world where money doesn’t exist. Does that seem about right? Similarly - Trophy. For those that don’t know, Trophy is an Active Protection System, also by Israel’s Rafael. The idea is the same kind of invincibility through technology no matter what the cost (or real effectiveness) thing. It’s a very complicated and expensive unit that uses sensors to detect rockets or shells fired at an armoured vehicle and shoot them down. Again, it’s been reported as 100% effective against an overwhelming threat, but again it costs hundreds of times more than the antiquated RPG rockets it’s shot down, there’s no evidence that it would work it a real conventional high threat environment. And again the USMC trialed them on Abrams, the Army on Abrams and Bradleys, based on that idea that this is something you can just scale up, and it failed trials. The idea that you can just spend your way to invincibility through technology, again, it’s like all defence thinking is focussed on Israel as the example, but Israel is able to do stupid poo poo because it’s not their money, so cost is no issue, and has, I don’t know if you’d call it permission, but wildly over reports the threat and the effectiveness of the solution and it’s never examined. It’s taken at face value and enters the Defence lexicon. So the effectiveness of technology is detached from reality, and cost is not even a consideration, does that make sense? Rather than idk not giving billions to Rafael so Israel has never met a military problem it can’t buy a technology to sort-of-but-not-really-solve, there’s this pervasive thought that that’s the perfected approach. I’ll give you an example: I was at a Canadian trial of the Tavor. Not as a C7 replacement, but IMI wanted to do a demo for our brass. The whole lead up was that this is the perfect small art. Israel is brilliant, look at their technology, wow it’s the rifle of the future. This is what a rifle should be, because it’s what the Israelis use, and it’s new, technology sophisticated (and expensive). It’s… fine. Honestly, it’s alright. It’s not trash, but… that was my first inkling that there’s this… idk gap. It was an adequate rifle that I thought was comparable to the C7. Now we had heard that oh wow Israel replaced all their M16s and M4s with Tavors, and I went from thinking “oh okay, that must mean its so much better” to understanding that because money is no object to them, they can do things like replace their entire inventory of service rifles with a new one. It doesn’t matter if it’s better - it’s branded as technologically sophisticated and modern. If Israel uses it and it’s technologically sophisticated and modern, everyone will treat it as being an incredible advancement, because that would justify the cost, but as the cost was never theirs to bear, the whole calculation is off. It’s off and yet so much thinking is based around that. I’m sure there’s more at work here that I’m missing, but nearly every mention of UAVs in a professional publication I have read lately mentions Israel - despite them operating in an environment with no threats and unlimited funds. The proposal that Canada adopt the Spike ATGM was based on Israel - despite them operating in an environment with no threats and unlimited funds. We were looking at 120mm mortars and the reaction was that we were stupid and/or crazy when the Finnish Tampella seemed much better than the Israeli Soltam, or even that we had considered anything but the Israeli offering. I don’t think this is an Israel Lobby/Zionism thing, maybe it’s just that everybody has bought into all these myths about Israel since 1973 and ignored the 2006 invasion of Lebanon?
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Feb 17, 2022 22:56
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You really have to be a special kind of idiot to think that a gay avatar is some sort of own in CSPAM. Like, you know there is a megathread called "Cum warriors" on the front page, right?
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Feb 17, 2022 22:58
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sexpig by night posted:yea it's actually a way crazier lie than 'that's impossible'. If you give an obviously fake number you can make an excuse for it but claiming a loving quarter of people in a province have vanished is something that literally is impossible to hide yea but it doesn't matter. No one is fact checking these claims, there are no consequences for false reporting. It's just part of the carpet bombing of false information whose only purpose to to make people think "eew evil Chinese".
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Feb 17, 2022 23:00
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imagining a french medieval general berating italian mercenaries: "you got the serrated steel crossbow bolt tips?! they don't even do anything!"
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Feb 17, 2022 23:02
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1494419711618080782?s=20&t=xclJUNixLKL8EJ5PtRNWOA sounds not good.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:06
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holy poo poo don’t tell me america is literally going to force the Ukrainians to pull a Saakashvili and make them do something insanely stupid to drag Russia into a war.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:10
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Frosted Flake posted:Similarly - Trophy. For those that don’t know, Trophy is an Active Protection System, also by Israel’s Rafael. The idea is the same kind of invincibility through technology no matter what the cost (or real effectiveness) thing. It’s a very complicated and expensive unit that uses sensors to detect rockets or shells fired at an armoured vehicle and shoot them down. Again, it’s been reported as 100% effective against an overwhelming threat, but again it costs hundreds of times more than the antiquated RPG rockets it’s shot down, there’s no evidence that it would work it a real conventional high threat environment. From my understanding, the other big problem with active defense systems is it makes it impossible to move with supporting infantry. Bursting an RPG or ATGM in mid-air turns it into an antipersonnel weapon. The only way to effectively use it is in a standoff position where you're a kilometer or two away from the enemy - which is enough distance for the APS to track and neutralize incoming fire. It can also just be overwhelmed by multiple coordinated attacks. I noticed these problems during the last Gaza war, because despite the alleged invincibility of the Merkava they were too afraid to bring them close to Hamas ATGM teams - so there was never a real possibility of them invading Gaza again like they did before. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 23:15 on Feb 17, 2022 |
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Feb 17, 2022 23:11
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Just the trophy system itself firing is going to hit the infantry near the tank.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:14
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Al-Saqr posted:holy poo poo don’t tell me america is literally going to force the Ukrainians to pull a Saakashvili and make them do something insanely stupid to drag Russia into a war. the line now is that Saakashvili did nothing wrong https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/1493991852684595206?s=20&t=xclJUNixLKL8EJ5PtRNWOA https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1491445374409588737?s=20&t=xclJUNixLKL8EJ5PtRNWOA https://twitter.com/achkhikvadze/status/1492552104128434185?s=20&t=xclJUNixLKL8EJ5PtRNWOA
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Feb 17, 2022 23:19
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Frosted Flake posted:I don’t think this is an Israel Lobby/Zionism thing, maybe it’s just that everybody has bought into all these myths about Israel since 1973 and ignored the 2006 invasion of Lebanon? It has more to do with Israel's status as a laboratory of colonialism. We keep adopting Israeli-designed platforms because they were made with anti-insurgency work in mind. They're meant to be used by a military that primarily operates as an occupying police force. The United States dumps tons of R&D funding into Israeli weapons firms for this purpose, and that feeds back into the First World buying up Israeli designs of questionable utility.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:21
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The other thing I considered is that every old publication I read evaluating the Soviets, or new ones built on those to evaluate the Russians used the Arab-Israeli Wars as the basis of knowledge for Soviet Tactics, Doctrine, Organization and Effectiveness, every comparison of hardware as well. Canadian Centurions would perform X well against facing DDR T-55s because Israeli Centurions had been Y effective against the Syrians. It’s entirely possible that looking at Israel as The Western Military engaged in combat against The Enemy that gives us Combat Experience because nothing is happening in the Fulda Gap, that’s just carried over into now. More importantly, Did we goad the Ukrainians into acting like Georgia? That would explain what’s going on now, predictions about the date and the extremely dark and suspicious stuff about Russian disinformation purporting to show Ukrainian troops on the attack, as well as war crimes and mass graves.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uD84dG-JAY lol
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Feb 17, 2022 23:22
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How is it strawmanning? I've openly demonstrated that Nazis being involved in this conflict is a both sides issue, and doesn't even begin to address anything with Russia's demands other than trying to legitimize Russian action as "necessary" because "Here be Nazis" as if the Azov Battalion represents the entirety of Ukraine. Otherwise, why are you bringing up the Azov Battalion? What does knowing they are present demonstrate in regards to the threat of Invasion? I seriously want to know, that's not rhetorical. (USER WAS MADE MODERATOR FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 17, 2022 23:25
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That's some bad CGI for 2017. Edit: Holy poo poo those are some Starship Troopers effects.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:26
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Cpt_Obvious posted:You really have to be a special kind of idiot to think that a gay avatar is some sort of own in Im more annoyed that oval office got rid of my sick Mao av
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Feb 17, 2022 23:26
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thatfatkid posted:Im more annoyed that oval office got rid of my sick Mao av Your next one should be this handsome young man. 
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Feb 17, 2022 23:28
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oh my god lol
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Feb 17, 2022 23:30
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Motherfuckers are making their own false flag operations and trying to crib them as russian ones lol lol it's so blatant
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Feb 17, 2022 23:30
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it's a false false false false false false false flag!!!!
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Feb 17, 2022 23:31
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Fly Molo posted:How is it strawmanning? I've openly demonstrated that Nazis being involved in this conflict is a both sides issue, and doesn't even begin to address anything with Russia's demands other than trying to legitimize Russian action as "necessary" because "Here be Nazis" as if the Azov Battalion represents the entirety of Ukraine. The difference is it's impossible to conceive of a Nazi coup in the Kremlin, but Kiev is on extremely shaky ground and could get overthrown at any moment. The more you pump weapons and money into these stay behind networks, the weaker the government gets.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:34
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Your next one should be this handsome young man. I like the way you think
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Feb 17, 2022 23:37
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This is worse quality animation than what Dahir Insaat would come up with.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:38
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:That's because "Judeo-Christian values" are bourgeois values. They barely even conceal it. Even the Evangelicals whose greatest desire is to bring the apocalypse to Israel also worship money higher than God, and think you can do business with Jews. It's the Muslims who can't be trusted, because they're so inscrutable and have all these inconvenient prohibitions against usury. Yuck. The Chinese are a threat because they're better at managing capital than we are, which throws a wrench into the whole world order led by the Washington Consensus. drat
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Feb 17, 2022 23:39
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The difference is it's impossible to conceive of a Nazi coup in the Kremlin, but Kiev is on extremely shaky ground and could get overthrown at any moment. The more you pump weapons and money into these stay behind networks, the weaker the government gets. if you were zelensky what would you do? i'd probably be starting a quiet life in the sleepy suburbs of reston virginia by now
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Feb 17, 2022 23:39
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The difference is it's impossible to conceive of a Nazi coup in the Kremlin, but Kiev is on extremely shaky ground and could get overthrown at any moment. The more you pump weapons and money into these stay behind networks, the weaker the government gets. well if there’s one thing the US loves, it’s funding and arming stay behind networks full of nazis surely they haven’t spend the last 70 years planting and watering the seeds of fascism all over the world
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Feb 17, 2022 23:41
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i say swears online posted:if you were zelensky what would you do? i'd probably be starting a quiet life in the sleepy suburbs of reston virginia by now King. Michael’s. Coup. Zelensky could be a world historic figure.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:42
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It really is their only option for a future, but Zelensky has several options for his future.
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Feb 17, 2022 23:53
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lol i just read that romania gave michael back a few royal properties in the last couple decades. rip, got an award from stalin and was exiled two years later because he couldn't stop monarching
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And after all that they can dump it on the Indian armed forces for more money.
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