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KomradeX posted:I feel like whenever discussing LOGH or even Gundam the problem is these universe's are stuck in a repeating cycle of useless corrupt liberalism vs fascism because no one's ever heard of Karl Marx or invented class politics. So you get protagonists that know both of these systems don't work, but repeatedly trying to make them work because there's no alternative most of modern society is stuck in this useless cycle so the shows are extrapolating this as well. you’re correct to say that the protagonists aren’t communist revolutionaries building a coalition and basis for a workers revolution, just well meaning libs or petty extremists LOGH is extremely class conscious imo, the same way Planetes is, but both shows are in a non ideal neoliberal order which the shows don’t paint as some kind of sorkinesque ideal. I’m not sure that’s even a “problem” with the shows
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I may have undersold how good Planetes is when it came up before, but it's so loving GOOD!!!
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Gundam, LOGH, Planetes, all emphasize that these powerful long standing social hierarchies built on excess aren’t inherently good or evil as a whole but will always crush, de-prioritize, and take advantage of common people.
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Mr. Lobe posted:I love LOGH but I can see how it would turn some people off. It's a slow burning, character-focused political drama set in a science fiction future. Not everyone is going to like that.
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a cyberpunk goose posted:LOGH is extremely class conscious imo, the same way Planetes is, but both shows are in a non ideal neoliberal order which the shows don’t paint as some kind of sorkinesque ideal. I’m not sure that’s even a “problem” with the shows Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 23:24 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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axe fights in space is pretty badass tho
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https://twitter.com/gomanga/status/1494071736429654025?s=20&t=OhVKjQzQpk7k-zXNrRBhGQ Ran 1994 to 2006, never got an official english translation. It's an amazing Iyashikei and one a lot of posters here might enjoy.
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Oh man, I read YKK scans a decade ago and loving loved it. It's such a good series. That is a day one buy for me
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YKK hasn’t been licensed until now?! how the gently caress did it survive the 00’s manga boom without one?
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Julias posted:Ran 1994 to 2006, never got an official english translation. It's an amazing Iyashikei and one a lot of posters here might enjoy. It's my favorite post apocalyptic story ever. I would actually suggest watching the OAV before reading the manga. There's only two works of film/tv media that have such compelling depictions of nature they triggered my sensory memory. One was Tarkovsky's Stalker, and the other was the hand-drawn YKK OAVs. Lostconfused posted:A bourgeois revolution is also a class concussion revolution, against nobility. The LOGH ending is a happy one because while the current situation is not ideal the constitutional monarchy allows for a future of liberty and democracy. The Free Planets Alliance doesn't exist but there is no longer a need for a democratic beacon of freedom because the Empire it self has began to transform into one. I wouldn't exactly call it a happy ending so much as optimistic. It's to the story's credit that it didn't present Reinhard as the actual savior he appears to be. If Reinhard had his way, there would be no democracy whatsoever in the empire moving forward. It'd have been a liberal technocratic nightmare. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 03:43 on Feb 17, 2022 |
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Julias posted:https://twitter.com/gomanga/status/1494071736429654025?s=20&t=OhVKjQzQpk7k-zXNrRBhGQ never watched the anime but the soundtrack is amazing
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There's not much to the OAVs. They're a very short watch, and a perfect teaser for the manga.
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skipmyseashells posted:never watched the anime but the soundtrack is amazing
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Doc Hawkins posted:did you know? they translated all ten of the original LoGH novels. go read 'em. Excuse me this is the anime thread.
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TenementFunster posted:you should watch and read YKK. if you say so 
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This was my desktop background for years
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Tokyo 24th Ward got delayed, new episode releases next Wednesday. It's pretty good
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Also watch YKK if you haven't, it's a classic ghibli level series about gay robots. Great music, story, vibes. I have a pic of the main character set as my phone background, found somewhere. Wish I could source it again 
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https://youtu.be/en6YIcNjb3Q I’ve listened to the soundtrack for 12 years now and never once thought of watching or looking at the anime
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I wrote a paragraph about why I love YKK so much that I'll spoil, even though it's not even explicit in the manga. It's all hinted at and implied, but never explicit so it can't totally ruin the experience like a plot spoiler could. I used to be a really big fan of post apocalyptic fiction, and still am in a lot of ways, but my favorite post apocalyptic story of all time is Yokohama Shopping Log. It's one of the only works I've ever seen that could be described as post apocalyptic optimism. For most stuff the best you can hope for is a dark world where the hero is restoring hope through bla bla yaddy yadda - but Yokohama doesn't have any heroes or villains. It's a meditation on death and its acceptance. Humanity is for the large part ok with its gradual decline and almost certain extinction, because the androids represent the continuation of a legacy that's more essentially human than the literal propagation of the species. The essential glue that holds society together is the certainty that their efforts aren't in vain.
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skipmyseashells posted:https://youtu.be/en6YIcNjb3Q For the curious, here's a playlist of the 2nd OVA. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQL9Xn8Zhxqs_JqsipJkZIncIRLd6wboK
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Julias posted:https://twitter.com/gomanga/status/1494071736429654025?s=20&t=OhVKjQzQpk7k-zXNrRBhGQ this is the anime thread, jules
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manga is anime by other means
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manga is anime in its larval stage
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Lmao
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Julias posted:https://twitter.com/gomanga/status/1494071736429654025?s=20&t=OhVKjQzQpk7k-zXNrRBhGQ holy poo poo yesssssssssssss 
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i guess I have something old to watch this yokohama show and mango have been under my radar i never even knew about the ost!
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reading ykk now. thankyou thread, it's very sweet.
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wolfs posted:i guess I have something old to watch
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:manga is anime in its larval stage anime is the fruiting body of manga
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i still don’t understand why alpha needed a gun
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TenementFunster posted:i still don’t understand why alpha needed a gun I never finished the series, but maybe it was just to highlight that she didn't need one?
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The way that the catastrophe reshapes flora & fauna is completely unpredictable, so even if there's nothing to fear from the human element there's no telling if some weird mutant could come out of nowhere and dismantle her.
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Orb Crabmelt posted:I never finished the series
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what was up with the "sea god" or whatever- the human...rock...thing with a brainwave?
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bitmap posted:what was up with the "sea god" or whatever- the human...rock...thing with a brainwave? The water god being described as marble w/ quartz may be too literal of a translation. It's more likely that they're describing its color. Later on in the manga there are fungal blooms that also eerily mimic human features & physiology, so it's likely that the water god is an early form of human-like mutation.
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TenementFunster posted:i still don’t understand why alpha needed a gun I thought in the first OVA, she dropped the gun in favor of a camera
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TenementFunster posted:i still don’t understand why alpha needed a gun What series is this?
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