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Paladinus posted:It's even worse/better. Pasechnikov's video was in D:\Бросок мангуста\ЛИ\Untitled.prproj Holy poo poo I was right CommieGIR posted:Adobe 2014. How much you want to bet pirated? Don't humanize them.
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Complete amateur hour, but when the charade is for your own sake, I guess it doesn't matter.
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So is there already some convoluted explanation of why it's all nazi propaganda or will they just pretend nothing's going on? The best I can come up with is they decided to record it in advance just like Bloomberg with their article on Russian invasion.
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Trump posted:Complete amateur hour, but when the charade is for your own sake, I guess it doesn't matter. masterclass in Username-post combo here I guess maybe they will wait for the Olympics to be over. At the very least I hope they'll give the Donbass residents a few days to get out of the way of the warzone Putin's about to kick off.
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Paladinus posted:Interestingly, doesn't look like it. Here are exif dumps for the two files Probably just scheduled recording then, in the form of VK PM with “bro read this on camera”.
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Paladinus posted:So is there already some convoluted explanation of why it's all nazi propaganda or will they just pretend nothing's going on? The best I can come up with is they decided to record it in advance just like Bloomberg with their article on Russian invasion. No need for convoluted, the far right runs Ukraine so everything they put out is nazi propaganda. Putting out some nonsense about false flags allows the US and friends to drag this poo poo out for another week. Looking forward to hearing why Russia hasn't invaded this time. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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White House press briefing has started. Cyberattacks topic atm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HycneIX8Zos
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Regarde Aduck posted:No need for convoluted, the far right runs Ukraine so everything they put out is nazi propaganda. Putting out some nonsense about false flags allows the US and friends to drag this poo poo out for another week. Looking forward to hearing why Russia hasn't invaded this time. So, uhm, are you doing a bit right now? If not, you do realise that you can literally download the files from the telegram channels that are listed on official websites of Pushilin and Pasechnikov, and easily verify the discrepancy with file creation date? By the way, I'm still not convinced Russia is going to invade.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:White House press briefing has started. Cyberattacks topic atm: This sign interpreter is great
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Ah, how lovely: https://twitter.com/qwest__/status/1494740586867396609 (To those that don't speak Russian: Rostov residents not so happy with notion of refugees. Of course, it probably won't be any better for Ukrainian refugees in Europe).
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CommieGIR posted:I suspect that is an accurate thing to blame. Part of why Russia was pushing Nordstream 2 so hard to completion. https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/any-eu-sanctions-russia-should-not-hit-energy-draghi-2022-02-18/
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Even if they want to divest from Russian gas and oil Europe would still be pretty hosed if the supplies stopped right away.
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Regarde Aduck posted:No need for convoluted, the far right runs Ukraine so everything they put out is nazi propaganda. Putting out some nonsense about false flags allows the US and friends to drag this poo poo out for another week. Looking forward to hearing why Russia hasn't invaded this time. What is it that makes you so sure that nothing is going to happen?
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Private Speech posted:Even if they want to divest from Russian gas and oil Europe would still be pretty hosed if the supplies stopped right away. "...and therefore they have no choice but to let Ukraine burn to the ground" is the implication of that, and Russia knows it.
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KillHour posted:"...and therefore they have no choice but to let Ukraine burn to the ground" is the implication of that, and Russia knows it. And where is Russia's economy if they suddenly overnight weren't selling oil and gas to Europe because they didn't roll over on Ukraine? I'm guessing not in a good place.
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KillHour posted:"...and therefore they have no choice but to let Ukraine burn to the ground" is the implication of that, and Russia knows it. That card may get overplayed here. If there's one thing Europeans hate more than higher gas prices, it's refugees.
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Morrow posted:That card may get overplayed here. If there's one thing Europeans hate more than higher gas prices, it's refugees. That's a win-win for Russia if the EU won't sanction their gas exports and are also pressured to quickly broker a ceasefire that throws Zelensky under the bus rather than risk the ensuing refugee crisis from a protracted conflict.
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Filming my own war crimes to own the libs. https://twitter.com/liveuamap/status/1494758792575078407
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Sanguinia posted:And where is Russia's economy if they suddenly overnight weren't selling oil and gas to Europe because they didn't roll over on Ukraine? I'm guessing not in a good place. I'm not saying I agree with it but, that's the dogwhistle at play for sure around why nobody can possibly do anything to stop Russia from kicking the puppy.
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Paladinus posted:It's even worse/better. Pasechnikov's video was in D:\Бросок мангуста\ЛИ\Untitled.prproj By the way, is that a Cuba reference or am I missing some fresh meme.
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golden bubble posted:https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/any-eu-sanctions-russia-should-not-hit-energy-draghi-2022-02-18/ This is pretty meaningless when Szholz have already confirmed his commitment to follow US sanctions.
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Trump posted:This is pretty meaningless when Szholz have already confirmed his commitment to follow US sanctions. Sanctioning NS2 doesn't mean that Europe is going to stop buying the natural gas coming through other pipelines.
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Very convenient for Zelensky to leave the country tomorrow for some conference.
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BoldFace posted:Very convenient for Zelensky to leave the country tomorrow for some conference. It's an annual security conference.
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TipTow posted:It's an annual security conference. It is, but it is also unfortunate timing. I think if things go down it will still be a few days to give the refugees a chance, but striking tomorrow while Ukraine's president is out of country and busy in a meeting would both put Zelensky in an extra difficult situation for responding, and make it seem to some that he had in fact fled, regardless of the validity of his trip. seems Biden has the same thoughts on the matter.
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https://twitter.com/alexmazuka/status/1494719630816030727 This account has a bunch of tweets that are rather contradictory to the evacuation narrative that’s being spun elsewhere (about 20km traffic jam on Russian border), but I’m not familiar with their work in general. https://twitter.com/alexmazuka/status/1494759065620295683
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GaussianCopula posted:Sanctioning NS2 doesn't mean that Europe is going to stop buying the natural gas coming through other pipelines. It still appears like a desperate and a bit tonedeaf message, after France, Germany, the UK (Not EU, but still) and the nordic countries have all said nothing is off the table.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://twitter.com/alexmazuka/status/1494719630816030727 In a region of 2 million people, I guess both narratives here could be technically true.
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Big explosion in Luhansk just as Biden is about to speak. https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1494783686235115522
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Trump posted:It still appears like a desperate and a bit tonedeaf message, after France, Germany, the UK (Not EU, but still) and the nordic countries have all said nothing is off the table. For Germany that's code for "we will touch NS2" - a pipeline that will in any case not be allowed to operate for another 4-8 month. Cutting off all natural gas coming from Russia is simply not a viable option for many European countries at this point.
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Pipeline that just exploded is reportedly the southern Druzhba line, so that doesn't bode well for Central Europe  supply:edit: I can't make this geography work. That line doesn't seem to go near Luhansk. second edit: here's a pipeline map showing a more likely candidate that's not Druzhba 
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A major gas pipeline explosion that derails energy supply to central and western Europe would be a great false flag for invading, imo.
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HonorableTB posted:A major gas pipeline explosion that derails energy supply to central and western Europe would be a great false flag for invading, imo. Maximum Putin Chaos option: 17 different types of false flags, people spend the next 30 years trying to figure out if any of them were real
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Orthanc6 posted:It is, but it is also unfortunate timing. I think if things go down it will still be a few days to give the refugees a chance, but striking tomorrow while Ukraine's president is out of country and busy in a meeting would both put Zelensky in an extra difficult situation for responding, and make it seem to some that he had in fact fled, regardless of the validity of his trip. It's a little awkward that they are pushing it at the same time as intelligence (?) claims that Russia is going to assassinate a bunch of Ukrainians.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:In a region of 2 million people, I guess both narratives here could be technically true. Also true, the actual video footage we’ve seen amounts to a few thousand people maybe.
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https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1494788414205579265 Ukraine sure has bad timing in waiting to strike the separatists until the exact moment that Russia has a solid majority of their military right outside their borders.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:Pipeline that just exploded is reportedly the southern Druzhba line, so that doesn't bode well for Central Europe gas supply: Druzhba is not a gas pipeline. It’s an oil pipeline.
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