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Vitruvian Manic
Dec 5, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

Mister Kingdom posted:

Is there any man in any branch of the entertainment world who isn't a horrible monster?

I always like the weird personality cults. Like how in Russia there is a cult that worships Gadget and in America there is a cult that worships that guy from Home Alone 2.

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Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



PharmerBoy posted:

Was this supposed to be a pun?

...just a bit.

Edit: ^^^ Gadget? That guy in Home Alone 2?

...I have a feeling I may not want to know...

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Samovar posted:

Edit: ^^^ Gadget? That guy in Home Alone 2?

...I have a feeling I may not want to know...
I don't know who Gadget is, but I assume the guy from Home Alone 2 is Donald Trump.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Gadget is the female chipmunk in Rescue Rangers. Apparently there's this group in Russia that formed a religion around her:

https://www.trendhunter.com/trends/gadget-hackwrench



The guy from Home Alone 2 is...well

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Actually they were talking about Rocky Horror fans.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.


He's trying to play "My theory doesn't have to explain everything that gravity does, only the parts I want to argue about".

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Neito posted:

He's trying to play "My theory doesn't have to explain everything that gravity does, only the parts I want to argue about".

Technically he's right, he doesn't have to explain everything gravity does. He just looks like an idiot if he doesn't.

tgacon
Mar 22, 2009

AceOfFlames posted:

Gadget is the female chipmunk in Rescue Rangers. . .



CHIP AND DALE ARE CHIMPMUNKS, GADGET AND MONTERREY JACK ARE MICE; furthermore . . (1/24)

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
apparently Rescue Rangers is a getting a new movie. Wonder if that cult still exist and has opnions on it.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008


Hey its that guy who sold frozen steaks and bankrupted a casino in Long Island!

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



PhazonLink posted:

apparently Rescue Rangers is a getting a new movie. Wonder if that cult still exist and has opnions on it.

I'm honestly torn on the new movie. On the one hand, I would love a new cartoon like they did with the Duck Tales reboot. On the other hand, it very much looks like it's set in the same "universe" as Who Framed Roger Rabbit, so...

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

The big problem in general with Disney "Ducksverse" is that American Disney does not seem to get the idea that Barks-Rosa-canon is the one, and the only one EU people tend to follow, not the old Duck Tales one. The new talent in Europe tends to follow that at least to some degree. Or do Duck Avenger which is basically Marvel, but with Donald Duck.

Its a sort of miracle that the new Ducktales is fairly close to the Barks-Rosa, and isn't doing stupid stuff to contradict it or bend it backwards.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Yeah, it's always baffling to me to see people in the US see Scrooge as this 100% honest moral paragon while in the comics kids in Europe read, more often than not, Scrooge is portrayed as your run of the mill rich psychopath who is willing to let his family die to protect his fortune.

I remember reading this sketchy theory that claimed this characterization came from neo-realist Italian writers who happened to have day jobs writing the Italian Donald Duck comics and thus this was their way of inserting their socialist beliefs into their work. I dunno if that's really true but I WANT it to be.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I met Don Rosa at a convention once. Nice man.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
I had no idea that duck canon is a thing, but its not surprising it exists.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Der Kyhe posted:

The big problem in general with Disney "Ducksverse" is that American Disney does not seem to get the idea that Barks-Rosa-canon is the one, and the only one EU people tend to follow, not the old Duck Tales one. The new talent in Europe tends to follow that at least to some degree. Or do Duck Avenger which is basically Marvel, but with Donald Duck.

Its a sort of miracle that the new Ducktales is fairly close to the Barks-Rosa, and isn't doing stupid stuff to contradict it or bend it backwards.

The new duck tales is also trying to be sold in the US too and nobody in the US knows who barks and Rosa are. Don Rosa’s from and still lives in my not particularly large city where one guy became a local celebrity by dressing goth and walking around outside with a pet snake around his neck. He is completely and totally unknown here. gently caress Ive probably run into him at some point and not realized it.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

AceOfFlames posted:

Yeah, it's always baffling to me to see people in the US see Scrooge as this 100% honest moral paragon while in the comics kids in Europe read, more often than not, Scrooge is portrayed as your run of the mill rich psychopath who is willing to let his family die to protect his fortune.

I remember reading this sketchy theory that claimed this characterization came from neo-realist Italian writers who happened to have day jobs writing the Italian Donald Duck comics and thus this was their way of inserting their socialist beliefs into their work. I dunno if that's really true but I WANT it to be.

I mean, Donald Duck is a big enough deal in Italy that Italy's best motorcycle racer used his nickname for a while. So that seems plausible to me.

Valentino Rossi posted:

Why Valentinik?
“The name Valentinik comes from a cosmic strip featuring Donald Duck (in Italian he is known as Paperino). In the story, he turns into Super Donald (or Paperinik), sporting a mask and cape. But he’s not a super-hero like Superman – actually, he’s doesn’t have any luck and wreaks havoc everywhere, but he is really funny and likeable. So that’s how “Valentinik” came into being”.

Left "cosmic strip" in there because :allears:

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

AceOfFlames posted:

Yeah, it's always baffling to me to see people in the US see Scrooge as this 100% honest moral paragon while in the comics kids in Europe read, more often than not, Scrooge is portrayed as your run of the mill rich psychopath who is willing to let his family die to protect his fortune.

I remember reading this sketchy theory that claimed this characterization came from neo-realist Italian writers who happened to have day jobs writing the Italian Donald Duck comics and thus this was their way of inserting their socialist beliefs into their work. I dunno if that's really true but I WANT it to be.

In Barks-Rosa he used to be the rear end in a top hat tycoon who drove his family away, reconciled with his immediate family or what was left of it after living in isolation for several years, and became this Indiana Jones-adventure grandpa (who is still stingy as poo poo) but in the end does the right thing, usually reluctantly.

Italians have their entire own thing, I am talking about Dutch/Germany/Belgium/Nordics. For example, the Duck Avenger used to be all Italian.

Der Kyhe has a new favorite as of 22:23 on Feb 18, 2022

Vitruvian Manic
Dec 5, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

Randalor posted:

I'm honestly torn on the new movie. On the one hand, I would love a new cartoon like they did with the Duck Tales reboot. On the other hand, it very much looks like it's set in the same "universe" as Who Framed Roger Rabbit, so...

I trust lonely Island.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmrqVjZLWWI

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Yeah, it being a Lonely Island movie kept me from writing it off.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

There is also another interesting tidbit about Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck comics; European markets used to be, and still are, very divisive between these two. For example in Nordics Donald is the everyman who despite his problems with his rear end in a top hat neighbor, and Scrooge giving him low pay, always delivered no matter what, and provided living for himself and the three children he had to take care for. He was a role model despite his shortcomings.

Mickey Mouse was the allways-right do-gooder who was morally uptight, never broke any rules and was a holierthanthou rear end in a top hat. In some countries Donald was so much more popular that he became the local Disney figure, Mickey was the Mormon missionary who shows up at your doorstep on Sunday morning at 07 AM and gives you a lecture on morals and ethics.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

The new duck tales is also trying to be sold in the US too and nobody in the US knows who barks and Rosa are. Don Rosa’s from and still lives in my not particularly large city where one guy became a local celebrity by dressing goth and walking around outside with a pet snake around his neck. He is completely and totally unknown here. gently caress Ive probably run into him at some point and not realized it.

You do know he is a superstar in Nordic countries, Benelux area and in Germany, right? When he was signing the books for "Quest for Kalevala" in Finland the entire government and the President of the Republic at that time were at the airport to greet him, and the line for meet-and-sign caused a major traffic problem in Helsinki, because people traveled from all around country to meet the guy.

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
Let's do the hotdog dance

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Der Kyhe posted:

You do know he is a superstar in Nordic countries, Benelux area and in Germany, right? When he was signing the books for "Quest for Kalevala" in Finland the entire government and the President of the Republic at that time were at the airport to greet him, and the line for meet-and-sign caused a major traffic problem in Helsinki, because people traveled from all around country to meet the guy.

I thinkm that’s why they said in the US which despite what they try to do is not in those areas

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Der Kyhe posted:

You do know he is a superstar in Nordic countries, Benelux area and in Germany, right? When he was signing the books for "Quest for Kalevala" in Finland the entire government and the President of the Republic at that time were at the airport to greet him, and the line for meet-and-sign caused a major traffic problem in Helsinki, because people traveled from all around country to meet the guy.

yes and in louisville I think I may have asked him for directions to the bathroom at an antique mall but i can't be sure.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

moonmazed posted:

tts is some 4chan era garbage. the definition of media that didn't age well

Even as a teen I never really liked it. Always seemed aimed towards people who read about 40k on 4chan or wikis instead of people that have looked into themselves

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Der Kyhe posted:


Mickey Mouse was the allways-right do-gooder who was morally uptight, never broke any rules and was a holierthanthou rear end in a top hat. In some countries Donald was so much more popular that he became the local Disney figure, Mickey was the Mormon missionary who shows up at your doorstep on Sunday morning at 07 AM and gives you a lecture on morals and ethics.


This is why, as a kid, I preferred Looney Tunes. I can't recall liking any Disney cartoons to the same degree as Bugs and company.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Mickey Mouse definitely has the 'the good china that gathers dust in the cupboard til grandma dies and it goes straight to the thrift store' problem. Like literally the only interesting things he's done in the last decade are are a handful of shorts barely anyone's seen, and Kingdom Hearts.

Der Kyhe posted:

In Barks-Rosa he used to be the rear end in a top hat tycoon who drove his family away, reconciled with his immediate family or what was left of it after living in isolation for several years, and became this Indiana Jones-adventure grandpa (who is still stingy as poo poo) but in the end does the right thing, usually reluctantly.

This is pretty much what the new DuckTales straight rolls with from the start, since it mixes the DuckTales lore with the Barks-Rosa stuff and a few original things. (like the triplets' mom actually featuring. There's a whole Gravity Falls style myth arc)

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀


Good old McDonald's Trump.

Wonder what ever happened to him.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Mickey Mouse definitely has the 'the good china that gathers dust in the cupboard til grandma dies and it goes straight to the thrift store' problem. Like literally the only interesting things he's done in the last decade are are a handful of shorts barely anyone's seen, and Kingdom Hearts.

A lot of people have seen them and Disney built a ride based on those shorts. They're also genuinely good and Mickey is actually funny in them.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




PhazonLink posted:

I had no idea that duck canon is a thing, but its not surprising it exists.

There isn't. Don Rosa himself have said that his comics are just one version of the Ducks and that other versions are just as valid.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Mickey Mouse definitely has the 'the good china that gathers dust in the cupboard til grandma dies and it goes straight to the thrift store' problem. Like literally the only interesting things he's done in the last decade are are a handful of shorts barely anyone's seen, and Kingdom Hearts.

The thing about Mickey Mouse is that he really doesn't have any personality, he's a good design but little else.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Donald Duck is great because he gets furious and is all 'wakwakwakwakwak!' and does idiotic things, thus he is all of us.

Mickey is charming in the Sorceror's Apprentice where he actually does mischief but Disney is so terrified of loving up their Perfect Child that they never let him be even that interesting any more, it's a real waste of an awesome design.

e: I keep meaning to try a Kingdom Hearts because I am assured that Donald flips his poo poo in those games sometimes

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

HopperUK posted:

Donald Duck is great because he gets furious and is all 'wakwakwakwakwak!' and does idiotic things, thus he is all of us.

Mickey is charming in the Sorceror's Apprentice where he actually does mischief but Disney is so terrified of loving up their Perfect Child that they never let him be even that interesting any more, it's a real waste of an awesome design.

e: I keep meaning to try a Kingdom Hearts because I am assured that Donald flips his poo poo in those games sometimes

Without context, Donald Duck is the most powerful and angriest wizard in all of Final Fantasy

This is canon

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Burkion posted:

Without context, Donald Duck is the most powerful and angriest wizard in all of Final Fantasy

This is canon

Also Goofy is basically the smartest member of the core cast. Sora isn't so much a person as a blunt weapon, if you point him at someone, that person is GOING to die because he will be easily convinced that they are bad, no matter what else he is told.

I liked Epic Mickey's version of Mickey because he's a total screwup who destroys a world by accident, and spends the rest of the game completely awkward and guilt ridden about it as he tries to fix it. Because Oswald is being SO nice to him and at least at first doesn't realise the disaster was directly his fault.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

HopperUK posted:

Donald Duck is great because he gets furious and is all 'wakwakwakwakwak!' and does idiotic things, thus he is all of us.

Mickey is charming in the Sorceror's Apprentice where he actually does mischief but Disney is so terrified of loving up their Perfect Child that they never let him be even that interesting any more, it's a real waste of an awesome design.

e: I keep meaning to try a Kingdom Hearts because I am assured that Donald flips his poo poo in those games sometimes

The recent Disney shorts are basically going back to that 'Mickey is a lazy jackass who generally makes his own trouble'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBKgPmS5Fyw

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

ishikabibble posted:

The recent Disney shorts are basically going back to that 'Mickey is a lazy jackass who generally makes his own trouble'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBKgPmS5Fyw

Weirdly enough that seems like an excellent way to describe Disney in general for years at this point.


BioEnchanted posted:

Also Goofy is basically the smartest member of the core cast. Sora isn't so much a person as a blunt weapon, if you point him at someone, that person is GOING to die because he will be easily convinced that they are bad, no matter what else he is told.

I liked Epic Mickey's version of Mickey because he's a total screwup who destroys a world by accident, and spends the rest of the game completely awkward and guilt ridden about it as he tries to fix it. Because Oswald is being SO nice to him and at least at first doesn't realise the disaster was directly his fault.

Apparently the plot of at least one Kingdom Hearts game is that the bad guys keep trying to confuse and distract Sora and make him question himself, but because he honestly has no idea what the gently caress their vague ominous rambling is even about he just charges in and wrecks their poo poo anyway, and sometimes the bad guys have already torn themselves apart through infighting and betrayal by the time Sora even gets there.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Daisy Duck is my favorite, she's such a basic bitch

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


ishikabibble posted:

The recent Disney shorts are basically going back to that 'Mickey is a lazy jackass who generally makes his own trouble'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBKgPmS5Fyw

I would say they've moved him more to the Spongebob Squarepants model of "such a do-gooder it becomes a personality flaw and causes trouble"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeRYuMEM_4k

Zombie Dachshund
Feb 26, 2016

ishikabibble posted:

The recent Disney shorts are basically going back to that 'Mickey is a lazy jackass who generally makes his own trouble'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBKgPmS5Fyw

Wow, that was the first time I’ve ever laughed at a Mickey Mouse cartoon! I didn’t think the character was supposed to be funny

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Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
This is one of the best episodes to showcase what a weirdo they let Mickey be in those shorts

https://youtu.be/2r5gue2yogk

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