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Chin Strap posted:Probably talked to at least 30 dealers only one said they don't do market adjustments at all but they just don't have any GT lines right now. Every single one of the rest said they won't consider removing the adjustment. Told them all to call me back when they will. The waiting game begins. This is the one where you wait until you can't wait any longer and then pay the "market adjustment", right?
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cruft posted:This is the one where you wait until you can't wait any longer and then pay the "market adjustment", right? Nah apparently it is the one where I stop relying on truecar and start just going down area dealers. Dealer 4th closest to me an hour away is selling me one they have on their lot for MSRP + TTL saying they never do market adjustments. Of course this dealer wasn't in truecar. So I'm buying one now just won't be receiving it until I sell the kia. Going to try a week or two with Tred to sell it and if that falls through Ill just trade it in at the dealer for whatever they'll give.
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Feb 19, 2022 19:03
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Chin Strap posted:Nah apparently it is the one where I stop relying on truecar and start just going down area dealers. Dealer 4th closest to me an hour away is selling me one they have on their lot for MSRP + TTL saying they never do market adjustments. Of course this dealer wasn't in truecar. Get offers from Carvana, Vroom and, if you’ve got a local one, Carmax as well.
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Feb 19, 2022 19:15
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DoomTrainPhD posted:If owning a Tesla and now a Rivian have taught me anything, it’s that dealerships are complete and utter trash and should be abolished as quickly as possible.  Cannot be said loudly or often enough.
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Feb 19, 2022 19:26
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Indiana_Krom posted:Don't let lovely politics limit your options. Not that I don't frequently wish Musk would shut the gently caress up, but ultimately you can't really buy anything or go anywhere without directly or indirectly supporting douche CEOs. The other automaker CEOs are also jerks, but they are quiet about it thanks to PR and marketing departments keeping their traps shut. Now even if I agreed all sides are equally evil which I don't, having a company that knows not to post Nazi memes seems like a bare minimum bar of competency for a company that makes dangerous machines that people risk their lives in (or really any company.) I think this attitude is loving lazy and selfish and while this isn't the thread for this conversation I am sick of people trying to abdicate any moral responsibility as a consumer so they don't have to make any "sacrifice" (not buying/feeling slightly worse about buying the car they want, or game, or whatever). Morality isn't just "politics". Like sure they are connected but you don't just get to say oh that's just politics and ignore it. I mean I guess you do because you did but whatever. Whelp I'm a sucker for derails where everything is connected and I just have to let people know the proper way to think. I'll stop now. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Feb 19, 2022 |
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Feb 19, 2022 19:27
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Come on Millenials/Zoomers, kill that poo poo
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Feb 19, 2022 19:28
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I don’t really know what the solution is for keeping inventory on hand if dealerships go away. Not everyone wants to, or can, wait months for a car.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I don’t really know what the solution is for keeping inventory on hand if dealerships go away. Not everyone wants to, or can, wait months for a car. Really? You can have corporate owned locations that have a few models to test drive. Then once you’ve decided you like it, you go inside and the rep pulls up a list of in stock models at some giant regional lot. If you like one, they have it brought in for a final looksee, or if you want a custom order you place it and wait for it to arrive.
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Feb 19, 2022 19:39
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I don’t really know what the solution is for keeping inventory on hand if dealerships go away. Not everyone wants to, or can, wait months for a car. Tesla keeps inventory when they have spare capacity, any corporate owned "dealer" type location could do it. Doesn't require the current franchise model.
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Feb 19, 2022 19:40
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Ya the issue isn’t the physical form factor of the dealer, it’s that dealer success is mostly disconnected from OEM success. There are frequently financial incentives for the dealers to undermine the OEM.
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Feb 19, 2022 19:49
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DoomTrainPhD posted:If owning a Tesla and now a Rivian have taught me anything, it’s that dealerships are complete and utter trash and should be abolished as quickly as possible. I bought a Polestar 2 which was technically a direct-sale but I still had to deal with a Volvo finance guy for the trade-in. He couldn't get any of the numbers consistent on any of his paperwork (he tried telling us our trade was worth $5k and not the $13k we were quoted) and called my wife "naive" and said she was "accusing him of fraud" whenever she called out the discrepancies. He even followed us out to the car to hand us a receipt and keep giving us poo poo. Can't escape these guys, man.
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Feb 19, 2022 19:53
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SpaceCadetBob posted:Really? Yea, and I’m saying that a lot of people don’t want to place an order for a car, they want to walk into a lot and buy a car the same way they walk into a store and buy a TV. Maybe that’s not actually the preference and people would adjust to the idea or ordering and waiting but I’m not so sure. Instant gratification is a powerful motivator. sanchez posted:Tesla keeps inventory when they have spare capacity, any corporate owned "dealer" type location could do it. Doesn't require the current franchise model. No manufacturer is ever going to keep the same amount of inventory if they have to warehouse it vs if someone else will take on the cost of storage and the financial risk of it sitting unsold. It’s going to be limited inventory and an attempt at JIT production to anticipate demand. It’s certainly not impossible, it’s just a big departure from how most people buy cars and I’m not sold on the idea that the majority of car buyers, at least in the US, would actually prefer the Tesla model. And getting OEMs to ever buy into taking on the risk they currently offload to dealers is a whole other can of worms.
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Feb 19, 2022 20:09
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Indiana_Krom posted:Don't let lovely politics limit your options. Not that I don't frequently wish Musk would shut the gently caress up, but ultimately you can't really buy anything or go anywhere without directly or indirectly supporting douche CEOs. The other automaker CEOs are also jerks, but they are quiet about it thanks to PR and marketing departments keeping their traps shut. Douchey is one thing, which is why I test drove a model 3 months ago when Musk just seemed kind of douchey. Douchey is fine. Agitating for the overthrow of elected governments is something else entirely and I think that you understand that
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Feb 19, 2022 20:50
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Yeah normally I just ignore the Musk chat but that was over the top
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QuarkJets posted:Douchey is one thing, which is why I test drove a model 3 months ago when Musk just seemed kind of douchey. Douchey is fine. Agitating for the overthrow of elected governments is something else entirely and I think that you understand that "We'll coup whoever we want! Deal with it" or is it only bad when it's a white liberal party and okay when it's an indigenous socialist party?
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Speleothing posted:"We'll coup whoever we want! Deal with it" It's bad when public figures are expressing pro-fascist views, end of sentence. Why is this controversial The point is that it's relevant to this thread, whereas posting about SpaceX probably wouldn't be.
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QuarkJets posted:It's bad when public figures are expressing pro-fascist views, why is this controversial Because I like car and don't want people to make me feel bad about giving money to racist poo poo man 
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Maybe a compromise can be found, like no muskchat but you can only refer to one of the cars as an "Apartheid 3" or similar?
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we can discus the many crimes of Tesla’s leadership, but we cannot address Musk directly by name instead we must obliquely refer to “a heretofore unnamed C-Suite executive we will be calling ‘Apartheid Clyde”
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Isn't the solution, if you *really* want a Model 3 or whatever, to just get a used one?
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Kirios posted:Isn't the solution, if you *really* want a Model 3 or whatever, to just get a used one? If you want to buy a Tesla and don’t especially care about Musk being an irredeemable piece of poo poo then buy one, just be prepared to deal with people judging you for buying a car from the Hitler meme Bitcoin car company. If you’re uncomfortable with people assuming you’re a prick because of the car you drive then perhaps you can talk to a BMW driver about how to handle the experience.
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Chin Strap posted:"The 7500 tax credit will help offset the 10k market adjustment though!" Jesus gently caress off with that garbo logic. I'm sad for the number of folks that must work on though. Yeah, Ford dealer tried to play all that bullshit with me. "It's only 5k, other dealerships are marking it up 10k!" "I'm not paying 10% markup on a car" "It's not 10%, it's only 5k" "Dude, seriously, I can do the mental math on 5k on a $50k car, this isn't differential algebra."
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YOLOsubmarine posted:If you want to buy a Tesla and don’t especially care about Musk being an irredeemable piece of poo poo then buy one, just be prepared to deal with people judging you for buying a car from the Hitler meme Bitcoin car company. If you’re uncomfortable with people assuming you’re a prick because of the car you drive then perhaps you can talk to a BMW driver about how to handle the experience. Sitting comfortably while grinning and driving along in your own smug happy bubble is natural shielding from such things. Maybe the Tesla judgement bubble is malfunctioning or not powered by a long history of vehicular badassery  - A BMW Driver
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In my area for a while it seemed like Audi drivers had overtaken BMWers for the “biggest d-bags on 4 wheels” crown and it remains hotly contested to this day 
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priznat posted:In my area for a while it seemed like Audi drivers had overtaken BMWers for the “biggest d-bags on 4 wheels” crown and it remains hotly contested to this day Speaking of, took home the e-tron GT today!  Stopped on the way home and picked up some dinner and some extra electrons - EA charger took 2 tries but wasn't too bad. Only regret is that I used Android Auto nav to the charger instead of the built in nav so there was no was no preconditioning of the battery (I think Audi does this?), so I only was charing at 75kw or so, but I only needed 15 minutes of juice to give a little buffer for the rest of the trip home anyway. 
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You chose the correct color. Congratulations!
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Awesome. Gonna need some more pics.
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priznat posted:In my area for a while it seemed like any pickup truck driver had overtaken BMWers for the “biggest d-bags on 4 wheels” crown and it remains hotly contested to this day FTFY
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NJ Deac posted:Speaking of, took home the e-tron GT today! Gorgeous. Blue car club represent!
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On the EV6: My wife is still a dumbphone user by her own choice. So if she needs to use a public charger in the states, does she have to rely on there being a credit card option? Or remember to bring her 4g tablet with her every time? Or is there a way to initiate charging straight from the kia software itself? How often are stations just app only?
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Chin Strap posted:On the EV6: You're going to want a credit card with the tap logo. And then hope the credit card reader hasn't been smashed up like the only CHAdeMO stall at the EA charger in Albuquerque is. You can also sign up for special network cards from ChargePoint and Blink, probably more, that you link to your credit card, and they get you the lower member rate. At the Blink charger between Albuquerque and Santa Fe, which Blink customer support doesn't think they run, the card is the only way to pay: the app doesn't work. But, yeah, she should be able to get by okay.
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Yeah, I know that ChargePoint will send you a little RFD card. I expect other networks do that too.
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Ok figured out that for both Charge point and EVGo they have cards. Are there any other big companies I should be signed up with in the states? Edit: what's the best app that aggregates available stations across different companies? Plugshare still?
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cruft posted:Gorgeous. Blue car club represent! Blue is best. Also, that's a drat good looking car.
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I definitely would’ve gotten a blue Niro had one been available. Got a red one instead, which I like too. At least it’s not silver like my last two cars. 
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The plan to trickle charge the e-tron at home for a few weeks has hit a snag. Apparently plugging in the car in the garage amplifies some kind of latent electrical fault that previously rarely caused the kitchen lights to barely flicker every once in a while. With the car plugged up in the garage, one of the kitchen lights strobes like we're at a rave. Guess that means trying to find an electrician to come out sooner rather than later so I don't burn my house down charging the car at 2 miles an hour.
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The kitchen light is an LED? Edit: I saw this in a video where they were trying out the generator on an F150 and intentionally overloaded it. Not sure if that's too much voltage drop then or insufficient amps, somebody brainy with electricity will chime in I'm sure Kia Soul Enthusias fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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Charles posted:The kitchen light is an LED? Yeah, the flickering bulb is an LED, and a different brand than the other LEDs on the same circuit. I'm assuming it's less tolerant of deviations from spec or voltage droop or whatever is happening than the other ones.
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Ok Comboomer posted:we can discus the many crimes of Tesla’s leadership, but we cannot address Musk directly by name Elon Musk is anagram of Lemons UK. Use this information for any needed clandestine discussions
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