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Alan Smithee posted:Context? https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/q5c2xf/web_media_critical_role_and_orion_acaba_how_to/
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Dragonstoned posted:The only thing he would have brought to the fight was a bunch of mirrors What was the plan for the mirrors anyways? Was he gonna Legend up a way to shine sunlight on Sylas inside the castle or something?
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 13:22 |
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Robobot posted:What was the plan for the mirrors anyways? Was he gonna Legend up a way to shine sunlight on Sylas inside the castle or something? Archimedes death ray
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 14:07 |
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Yeah, I think Percy originally thought it up but very quickly dismissed it because it was impractical as hell, which is when Tiberius shoved his way in.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 14:52 |
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Well that’s way less fun. I’m super glad that character was booted because, and I gotta be honest here, I think a highborn dragonkin mage may have pushed this show juuuuuust a bit too nerdy for me. I like playing table top games. I like cartoons with blood and swearing. I like fantasy settings. But that would have been a bridge too far.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 15:00 |
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Robobot posted:Well that’s way less fun. I’m super glad that character was booted because, and I gotta be honest here, I think a highborn dragonkin mage may have pushed this show juuuuuust a bit too nerdy for me. There is potential in playing a son of a politician and trying to find your spot in the world, whether to follow your parent's path or make a path of your own. It was just that the player behind it had Main Character Syndrome. Percy is the son of nobility. Keyleth is basically a young adult fantasy novel protagonist but doesn't drive herself to be the center of attention. Scanlan, whether you like him or not, has more than just jokes and can be incredibly clever in problem-solving. Grog doesn't go too hard on being dumb. Everyone has a chance at the spotlight but Orion loved to just swerve into everyone's lane. Agaragon posted:Yeah, I think Percy originally thought it up but very quickly dismissed it because it was impractical as hell, which is when Tiberius shoved his way in. Case in point was this scenario. Percy tried to wing what was essentially a magnifying glass with the sun that Matt warned would be really hard to do. He made the rolls, failed and accepted the failure. Tiberius suddenly decided "Wait I'll do it too!" and it was more desperate than clever. There was another scene where Vex had to land a shot on a target and she succeed with a Nat 20 but Tiberius decided to waste a goddamn Telekinesis spell to make sure it hits even when Vex already succeeded and the party pointed that out.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 18:31 |
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The character Tiberius in the hands of any other person would have been good. But he wasn't and isn't and here we are.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 19:41 |
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Dameius posted:The character Tiberius in the hands of any other person would have been good. But he wasn't and isn't and here we are. Yeah as it turns out the trick to playing a character who is an rear end in a top hat is to not be an rear end in a top hat yourself
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 19:53 |
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I'm hoping Season 2 gives us the guest stars that have been waiting in the rafters. Out of all of them, I want to see Mary Elizabeth McGlynn's Zahra. I would have said Patrick Rothfuss's Kerrek but he will probably not be for another season .
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 20:01 |
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DesertIslandHermit posted:I'm hoping Season 2 gives us the guest stars that have been waiting in the rafters. Out of all of them, I want to see Mary Elizabeth McGlynn's Zahra. I would have said Patrick Rothfuss's Kerrek but he will probably not be for another season . I SO want Zahra and Kash, you don’t even know. I can only hope the Vasselheim arc happens in season 2. Please, I NEED it!
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 20:08 |
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Mywhatacleanturtle posted:I SO want Zahra and Kash, you don’t even know. I can only hope the Vasselheim arc happens in season 2. Please, I NEED it! Vax and Hotis just Spider-Man meme point at each other
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 20:27 |
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Every time Keyleth turns into an animal to fight something I'm thinking that's gotta be the least effective move you got when you can literally summon the elements(?) but also in that one ep with the magical armor guys she crushed a metal helmet in her teeth so it must be hella good actually.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 20:37 |
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Pwnstar posted:Every time Keyleth turns into an animal to fight something I'm thinking that's gotta be the least effective move you got when you can literally summon the elements(?) but also in that one ep with the magical armor guys she crushed a metal helmet in her teeth so it must be hella good actually. I hope we get (campaign spoilers) Keteor next season.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 20:42 |
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Pwnstar posted:Every time Keyleth turns into an animal to fight something I'm thinking that's gotta be the least effective move you got when you can literally summon the elements(?) but also in that one ep with the magical armor guys she crushed a metal helmet in her teeth so it must be hella good actually. Well, two things to keep in mind is that in D&D a) she can cast those big girl spells a limited amount of times and b) when she turns into an animal any damage she takes goes into that animal form's health points, so depending on the situation she needs to do it just to survive in the fray.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 20:45 |
Pwnstar posted:Every time Keyleth turns into an animal to fight something I'm thinking that's gotta be the least effective move you got when you can literally summon the elements(?) but also in that one ep with the magical armor guys she crushed a metal helmet in her teeth so it must be hella good actually. It depends on what you're doing, they're oftennweaker than your best spells, but if you dont wanna cast it can be worthwile. Its significantly more useful for its utility, turn into a bird or a spider or something its super useful
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 20:45 |
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DesertIslandHermit posted:There is potential in playing a son of a politician and trying to find your spot in the world, whether to follow your parent's path or make a path of your own. DesertIslandHermit posted:Case in point was this scenario. Percy tried to wing what was essentially a magnifying glass with the sun that Matt warned would be really hard to do. He made the rolls, failed and accepted the failure. Tiberius suddenly decided "Wait I'll do it too!" and it was more desperate than clever. Hieronymous Alloy posted:I think overall my reaction is that this is the first legitimately artistically good adaptation of a D&D campaign that I've ever seen, and I've read a lot of books based on D&D campaigns. I think the difference between this and other "this is my campaign, enjoy" fantasy adaptations is an interesting puzzle to dissect precisely because so many adaptations are either failures or the kind of glaring cheap success you get by paying a quarter into a gumball machine.
*: social media and the cast occasionally combine to get the whole team in the fuckbarrel for reasons that vary from legitimate to ludicrous expectations of overinvested fandom to general contrarianism. During one of the more recent session, a comic artist who'd done work for CR in the past noted that after the kickstarter CR staff and cast feels they've surpassed the podcast and livestream world, comparing and competing with Disney or Henson studios, not the Geek & Sundrys or Nerdists of the world. Which is half true, but hey, limitless optimism is kind of a prerequisite for going from home game to eight figure multimedia empire.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 21:14 |
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Great series. I was curious if they were going to extend the battles a bit, and they certainly did. A pile of crits and walking away would have been 40 seconds of screen time otherwise.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 21:53 |
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I think my favorite Critical Failure moment besides the door in Episode 6 was Grog just straight up getting blasted down the stairs right at the start of the Episode 11 fight and getting KO'd. It was funny but man I can relate to loving up so early in a battle.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 22:42 |
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DesertIslandHermit posted:I think my favorite Critical Failure moment besides the door in Episode 6 was Grog just straight up getting blasted down the stairs right at the start of the Episode 11 fight and getting KO'd. It was funny but man I can relate to loving up so early in a battle. Those barbarian moments when you use your endless health pool to save the party from an acid trap but roll low initiative in the next battle and get one-shot before you can rage to protect yourself. I also just realized that Grog closing his eyes vs. Sylas was a take on Reckless attacks.
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 23:25 |
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i watched all of this and it was ok. it's kinda weird how mega cliche the cast feels but i guess somethin based off a dnd podcast is gonna be like that. scanlon loving sucks dog rear end though ffs he is genuinely awful and actively makes every scene he is in worse grog kinda sucks too but mostly because he's like, too generic? he has literally nothin goin for him besides like default idiot barbarian stuff. it's not like the rest of the cast except percy isn't cliche but grog is like, totally spiceless in every regard. hopefully s2 adds some spice there and lets the chars breathe more
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# ? Feb 19, 2022 23:34 |
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Pwnstar posted:Every time Keyleth turns into an animal to fight something I'm thinking that's gotta be the least effective move you got when you can literally summon the elements(?) but also in that one ep with the magical armor guys she crushed a metal helmet in her teeth so it must be hella good actually. Sometimes she shoots lightning, sometimes she turns into a mountain lion and wrecks house.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 00:47 |
AngryBooch posted:Those barbarian moments when you use your endless health pool to save the party from an acid trap but roll low initiative in the next battle and get one-shot before you can rage to protect yourself. It was actually a fighting technique Travis tried as Grog. Travis as Grog knew that he needed to make eye contact for the charm so he just started swinging wildly with his eyes closed. I don't remember offhand but I suspect Travis used reckless to counteract the disadvantage on each attack, making it a flat roll. So it represented both reckless attack and what Grog did in the game.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 03:25 |
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Fereydun posted:hopefully s2 adds some spice I'm pretty sure it will.
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Paracaidas posted:
Yeah, acceptance of failures and staying relatively true to the stream in spirit and not just detail was definitely a big part of it. I wonder if part of this was just that the streaming format meant they'd taken better notes than most people turning their D&D campaigns into stories. You tend not to remember the failure points but they definitely add necessary strength to the story. Creative control is an interesting puzzle. I did see in one of the streams that they talked about how their first drafts weren't workable and they had a lot of valuable help turning their scripts into viewable shows. So being willing to do second, third, etc drafts and being willing to cede creative control when they knew that was the right thing to do seems like it was part of it too. They didn't all try to draw their own characters and they brought in professional script writers as needed. Fereydun posted:i watched all of this and it was ok. it's kinda weird how mega cliche the cast feels but i guess somethin based off a dnd podcast is gonna be like that. On the other hand this is all true too. Like, the characters are a little deeper and more complicated than the five teenagers in the Dungeons and Dragons tv cartoon from the 1980s, but not THAT much more. They're mostly broad generic types; dumb barbarian, wise-cracking horny bard, naive and self-doubting elf druid, etc. (the most original is basically "hamlet, but with a gun"). On the one hand that gives the audience an easy introduction to the characters, though, so it's not all bad. It's very easy to feel like you know the people at the table because they're playing broad character types that you've probably played yourself or had someone else play across the table from you at some point in the past. Long and short of it I think is that their goal seems to have been communicating what a good D&D session feels like, more than telling a specific story or communicating a specific character. It doesn't have to be the most original thing in the world and it isn't trying to be; it's fun and it feels like friendship. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 15:43 |
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I just want this show to be successful enough that we eventually get a Legend of the Mighty Nein show.
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Hulk Smash! posted:I just want this show to be successful enough that we eventually get a Legend of the Mighty Nein show. Weird thing for me is, I watched like. . . five or six episodes ? of Campaign 2. Long enough for them to pick their party name, anyway. And it just didn't grab me at all. Campaign 1, the little I've watched, had a sort of endearing raw charm, and campaign 3 seems firing on all cylinders, but my main takeaway from what I watched of 2 was "holy poo poo they're spending a lot of money on miniatures." I kinda enjoyed that they used a stand-in mini for The Nightmare King in C3, it was a little less overwhelming with the production values.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 17:22 |
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Here's a dumb hypothetical for you to pass time: If you were to pick a cast of a new CR animated show from the PCs from all three campaigns, who would you pick? Since this is presumably an animation, you can pick multiple characters from the same player. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Weird thing for me is, I watched like. . . five or six episodes ? of Campaign 2. Long enough for them to pick their party name, anyway. And it just didn't grab me at all. Campaign 1, the little I've watched, had a sort of endearing raw charm, and campaign 3 seems firing on all cylinders, but my main takeaway from what I watched of 2 was "holy poo poo they're spending a lot of money on miniatures." I thought C2 had a slow start, as well. I am told it gets more interesting later on.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 17:23 |
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I'm different, I think C2 grabbed me far more from the start, and felt more like organic. These people who got brought together in C2 like didn't have near the like instant friends vibe that C3, it felt like their coalescing as a group of friends was more natural and earned. C2 also felt like far more player driven early on to me than C3 has. C2 also turns it up big after a major plot event. C3 has probably more fun characters, which is nice, but yeah the Nein are probably my favorite character work from them of the 3 seasons so far. C3 might grab me more when it finally opens up. It feels like we've been stuck in a tutorial area forever. I think C2 would probably make for the best animated TV show, as it feels way more like structured with it's plot beats that come up like one.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 17:36 |
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Megazver posted:Here's a dumb hypothetical for you to pass time: Honestly you could boil it down to Jester and Nott the Brave* and just rotate anybody else in and out for me. One of the funniest things Sam ever said was "Oh, there's no comma."
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 18:01 |
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Megazver posted:Here's a dumb hypothetical for you to pass time: I've seen all of C1 and C3 but only a bit of C2. I'd want full-on chaotic crew. Grog, Scanlan, Fearne, Laudna, Jester and Nott. If we can count EXU, I want Dariax. He was my favorite kind of Chaotic Neutral. Not really a selfish rear end in a top hat, just a guy that loves to get into mischief and reassure the party it will be fine.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 18:02 |
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Megazver posted:Here's a dumb hypothetical for you to pass time: In that case, why would I restrict myself to just Critical Role?
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 18:08 |
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Speaking of I'm genuinely surprised there isn't more CR vs TAZ fanart around.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 19:35 |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again (and again and again) I need Laura Bailey, Beth May (Dungeons and Daddies) and Emily Axford (Not Another DnD Podcast) to sit at the same table at some point. Imagine the chaos.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 19:45 |
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Throw Alex Lee from Dragon Friends in there.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 20:16 |
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See the thing is, I don't think people realize how much things can become a slog if everyone is chaotic. Having a voice of reason or straightman character is really important, not only cause it allows some or cohesion to avoid going full "lol random", but it makes the chaotic and funny parts land harder when there's someone there to react to the absurdity. I've played in a number of full chaotic parties before... They don't tend to be that fun, at least not for long.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 20:21 |
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wokow6 posted:
See also doing an "all villain" campaign where everyone is a lazy parody of a serial killer and the plot has no momentum because the players are too busy looking for orphanages to burn down
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 20:26 |
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wokow6 posted:See the thing is, I don't think people realize how much things can become a slog if everyone is chaotic. Having a voice of reason or straightman character is really important, not only cause it allows some or cohesion to avoid going full "lol random", but it makes the chaotic and funny parts land harder when there's someone there to react to the absurdity. The straightman would probably be Orym or Fjord. Fjord tries to teach. Orym is like a tired dad.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 21:18 |
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Fereydun posted:scanlon loving sucks dog rear end though ffs he is genuinely awful and actively makes every scene he is in worse Yeah, Scanlan is the joker of the group, and he has moments every so often. But, in this series he's almost ALWAYS doing goofy poo poo, which was too much. Grog, while not bright, had more wisdom, so he was always doing great things in a dumb way. He wasn't nearly as brain dead as he has been in this show. He really shined in a lot of moments throughout.
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# ? Feb 20, 2022 21:19 |
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Government Handjob posted:I'm pretty sure it will. Spice? It'll have some spice?
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Push El Burrito posted:Spice? It'll have some spice? Spice? Spice? You got some spice?
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