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Taear posted:This is because it was all negative threads to be fair, most of the criticisms were pretty poo poo takes because, redditors
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You know how every week people who watch Discovery on their second screen make complaints along the lines of "Why did [thing explicitly explained on screen] happen, it makes no sense"? Imagine that happening on a board with 40,000 posters instead of 40
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bltzn posted:to be fair, most of the criticisms were pretty poo poo takes because, redditors Every so often I'm reminded that there's a weird insane Twitter account that'd dedicated to endless all caps raging about Star Trek: Discovery and occasional bouts of harassing actors, writers, directors, producers or other crew members involved with the show. The person behind it is straight up Internet Insane.
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Seemlar posted:You know how every week people who watch Discovery on their second screen make complaints along the lines of "Why did [thing explicitly explained on screen] happen, it makes no sense"? Discovery has deep, gaping flaws, but the constant “we don’t even know the redhead robot-eyed chick’s name!!” was massively annoying. And that was going on well into season three.
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Penitent posted:So on the subject of Star Wars, who remembers that time Discovery and Enterprise launched hundreds and hundreds of one-man fighters and did a riff on the Battle of Endor? That was more aping Battlestar Galactica, really. Especially with the whole rings of explosions to emulate the Galactica flak barrier. 
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Mr. Apollo posted:Out of curiosity I had a look at the Discovery Reddit and they have a “no criticism” rule. You’re only allowed to post criticisms in a specific “criticisms thread”. It makes sense, otherwise you would have threads all over the place where people miss basic plot points because they are too busy hate watching instead of just having them all in one
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MikeJF posted:That was more aping Battlestar Galactica, really. Especially with the whole rings of explosions to emulate the Galactica flak barrier. This is making me all nostalgic.
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MikeJF posted:That was more aping Battlestar Galactica, really. Especially with the whole rings of explosions to emulate the Galactica flak barrier. I mean if we're just posting porn now... 
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This season really feels like 2-3 episodes of story stretched out across an entire season Absolutely nothing has been accomplished. This entire 4 episode or so subplot of Book going AWOL with a weapon ended with a wet fart. I do think that the episodes as a whole have been better, but the entire thing is just not engaging at all.
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Feb 20, 2022 05:47
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I honestly don't know which i prefer, the Season 1 script method of "we need to go from A to C and we can skip B" or the current method of "We need to get from A to C and make it slow, use some numbers in-between or something"
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Once again the show did the fakeout of making us think that some of the bridge crew members were going to get something to do, and then NOPE
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Seemlar posted:You know how every week people who watch Discovery on their second screen make complaints along the lines of "Why did [thing explicitly explained on screen] happen, it makes no sense"? Better made shows don't have this problem. It's easy to follow what's happening when characters make clever choices that work within the established rules of the setting. Discovery doesn't do that. Instead it tosses the audience contrived bits of dialogue to explain why a character is about to do something that doesn't make sense given the stakes involved, their motivation, what we know they're capable of, or the available technology. In the last episode, Tarka said they couldn't beam the weapon into the DMA because they would have to drop their shields, allowing Discovery to beam them aboard, presumably before they could initiate their own transporter. Alright, fair enough. But then, after Book agrees to surrender, Tarka flicks his wrist and in a split second the shields drop and the weapon is beamed into the DMA, faster than anyone on the Discovery can react. Asking "why didn't he do that in the first place?" doesn't mean you weren't paying attention. It means the show is lazy and bad. Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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Typical Pubbie posted:Better made shows don't have this problem. "I acquit"
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Typical Pubbie posted:Better made shows don't have this problem The rest of TV/IV indicates otherwise...
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Penitent posted:I mean if we're just posting porn now... It really is incredible that 15-20 years on the cgi stands up that well.
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FlamingLiberal posted:This season really feels like 2-3 episodes of story stretched out across an entire season
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DaveKap posted:Snowpiercer The plot summary sounds ridiculous, so if this show is actually good it must be very interesting. Gonna check it out.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:The plot summary sounds ridiculous, so if this show is actually good it must be very interesting. Gonna check it out. It is very good, especially when it gets up to steam. Let's just hope they keep it up and the plot doesn't derail at some point.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Once again the show did the fakeout of making us think that some of the bridge crew members were going to get something to do, and then NOPE
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Carbon dioxide posted:It is very good, especially when it gets up to steam. 
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Typical Pubbie posted:"why didn't they just do that in the first place" Because 1) Discovery's guard was down after Book agreed to surrender and 2) Tarka was desperate and out of options. Discovery's writing is bad for other reasons, but this wasn't too difficult to follow imo. e: Typical Pubbie posted:So they just forgot that Tarka, the man who instigated all this, was on the ship and, more importantly, that he hadn't agreed to surrender? yeah that was dumb bltzn fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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bltzn posted:Because 1) Discovery's guard was down after Book agreed to surrender and 2) Tarka was desperate and out of options. Discovery's writing is bad for other reasons, but this wasn't too difficult to follow imo. So they just forgot that Tarka, the man who instigated all this, was on the ship and, more importantly, that he hadn't agreed to surrender?
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Does anyone get punished for anything in this show, its not just Burnham disobeying orders. I swear its the Discovery having spore drive privilege that starfleet let's them get away with it all, someone arrest this insane captain and her crew of fanatics
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There was a moment in this episode where Dadmiral said something to Burnham about how 'she's never let him down'. Which is absolutely wrong if you have seen Season 3 when she disobeyed direct orders and ended up getting demoted (although this of course basically didn't end up mattering at all).
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Penitent posted:I mean if we're just posting porn now... Still holds up perfectly.
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Tiberius Christ posted:Does anyone get punished for anything in this show, its not just Burnham disobeying orders. I swear its the Discovery having spore drive privilege that starfleet let's them get away with it all, someone arrest this insane captain and her crew of fanatics Given how they're duplicating the spore drive now why is this crappy 800-year antiquated piece of poo poo even still flying. There's only so much a refit can do.
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MikeJF posted:Given how they're duplicating the spore drive now why is this crappy 800-year antiquated piece of poo poo even still flying. There's only so much a refit can do. As far as I know there's still only 2 people who can operate the fuckin thing. Of course that makes the poo poo from a few episodes ago where Cronenberg said he'd have removed Stamets from the ship if he didn't get along with Zora even dumber As to the refit thing, the typical limitations of a refit would usually be the limitations of thr spaceframe itself which would no longer be an issue when you have a construction method that lets you rebuild the entire frame without compromising structural integrity Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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Charity Porno posted:As far as I know there's still only 2 people who can operate the fuckin thing. So reassign Stamets to a modern ship and plug a spore drive into it.
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Penitent posted:I mean if we're just posting porn now... I went back and watched a few bits after you posted that and it's so weird after recent sci-fi to see things where the space stuff is actually, like directed with thought instead of just flashy shots? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjgG_f35vZY
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In the year 4,000 every starship has a Stamets core floating in a macabre tank of viscous fluid
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They should start churning out transporter clones of Stamets and get a whole fleet of spore drives rolling.
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MikeJF posted:I went back and watched a few bits after you posted that and it's so weird after recent sci-fi to see things where the space stuff is actually, like directed with thought instead of just flashy shots? That is so true. The recent Star Wars and Star Trek outings have forgotten the craft involved in directing the action we see on screen. There was so much cinematography talent that went into scenes like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZigWFyK2o Now, most science fiction action on screen feels like CGI thrown into a blender.
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FlamingLiberal posted:There was a moment in this episode where Dadmiral said something to Burnham about how 'she's never let him down'. Which is absolutely wrong if you have seen Season 3 when she disobeyed direct orders and ended up getting demoted (although this of course basically didn't end up mattering at all). I'm still always a little caught off guard when he keeps being the dadmiral when for so many eps that first season I was waiting for him to basically be a less-mild version of President, who herself could stand to be a little more oppositional. Half the time Burnham scoffs at whatever the admiral or president are having her do before they finish their sentence and it's basically what Burnham wanted all along anyway or would be totally cool with. Mariner gets away with a lot but even she faces consequences and setbacks along the way or after. Burnham's whole career since she mutiny'd has been like a discovery-camera-carousel of burnham spinning between brazenly disobeying orders, dramatically agreeing to tearfully follow orders only after making it clear she's doing it because she wants not because you told her to, and getting punished with a promotion or circumstance that allows her to do whatever she wants all along.
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Yeah they made it seem like she was going to butt heads with the Federation President more this season, but after the first three or so episodes that mostly stopped
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Khanstant posted:I'm still always a little caught off guard when he keeps being the dadmiral when for so many eps that first season I was waiting for him to basically be a less-mild version of President, who herself could stand to be a little more oppositional. Half the time Burnham scoffs at whatever the admiral or president are having her do before they finish their sentence and it's basically what Burnham wanted all along anyway or would be totally cool with. The cartoon character kind of seems more self-aware than Michael too. Discovery is a weird show, and I think Michael should've been promoted to captain in a series finale, with the show working its way to proving she deserved it. Saru is a more interesting captain.
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think of it this way, we are seeing her journey of being promoted to Queen Bitch of the Universe like Kerrigan.
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Typical Pubbie posted:Better made shows don't have this problem. It's easy to follow what's happening when characters make clever choices that work within the established rules of the setting. Discovery doesn't do that. Instead it tosses the audience contrived bits of dialogue to explain why a character is about to do something that doesn't make sense given the stakes involved, their motivation, what we know they're capable of, or the available technology. Perhaps he didn’t do that earlier because Discovery was explicitly watching for that to happen and would have stopped him, and then did it at the end out of desperation since his other option was complete failure? These aren’t particularly hard things to work out.
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Penitent posted:So on the subject of Star Wars, who remembers that time Discovery and Enterprise launched hundreds and hundreds of one-man fighters and did a riff on the Battle of Endor?
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