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Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Oh and now the nuTSR dipshits are also getting into NFTs lmao

Liquid Communism posted:

It's fascinating to see how eager they are to burn years of accumulated goodwill.

I hope whoever sold the c-suite on blockchain bullshit gave them a poo poo load of money to offset the massive opening they're creating to let someone else swoop in and eat up their market share without needing to do anything better than them beyond saying 'we're not involved in blockchain scams'.

This has all the hallmarks of a decision that was made by upper management without anyone else's input, so I assume they'll be similarly insulated from the consequences thereof.

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potatocubed
Jul 26, 2012

*rathian noises*

Kai Tave posted:

They do in fact still exist, and make what I would describe as "mid-tier" board and card games. No more L5R, that went to FFG (I dunno what's up with it now that FFG is getting turned into a husk)

Asmodee have a division called Edge Studios, who are developing RPGs based on their properties including L5R.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Adun posted:

It’s not really about improving Hasbro’s health. The idea is there are some people to want to invest in a fast growing collectible card company (Wizards) and some people who want to invest in a toy company (Hasbro ex-Wizards) and that the two separately are worth more than the sum of the parts

It really makes sense looking at it this way; a company's subsidiary has gotten big doing what turns out to be a rather different kind of business that doesn't really necessarily gel with what the main company is doing. Both from an investor perspective and possibly also from a management perspective. It saves the hassle of Hasbro having to manage two very different types of products from a production perspective.

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Well, I for one, look forward to the glorious return of Spellfire!

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Robert Facepalmer posted:

Well, I for one, look forward to the glorious return of Spellfire!

Only if they use old art/commission new old art.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Kickstarter COO Sean Leow was interviewed by Comics Beat regarding their blockchain move.

Excerpt from early on:

quote:

The Beat: Why did Kickstarter decide to move to blockchain? And what are some of the issues with the current platform that blockchain would address?

Sean Leow: I want to clarify upfront that we haven’t moved to blockchain. A lot of what we are trying to communicate today is that we’re exploring this path, and we’re excited about some of the possibilities to come.

Always reassuring when the first thing you have to say is that actually, you're not sure you're going to do it.

quote:

...So the question is, what is holding back people from actually using a tool like crowdfunding to make their ideas into reality?

When we think about that, about the problems, we think about that people don’t feel confident that their project is actually going to reach all the potential backers that it could, because you’ve got this really short 30-day window. You have to find everybody who’s interested in your one niche thing, about sci-fi anime in Japan, and bring your audience. How are you going to make sure that it reaches all the potential people around the world? That’s one core challenge.

Another core challenge is that people aren’t always sure they’re receive their rewards[1]. Sometimes rewards are late, or they’re never delivered, or they arrive, but at a low quality. So backers don’t trust in the model of crowdfunding.

Proceeds to just spew out buzzwords. No explanation of how their "protocol" is going to solve this problem, other than basically having other people do it for them? (Which they are already doing!)

No actual answers to questions, although Beat has some good ones.

Just embarrassing.

Lurks With Wolves
Jan 14, 2013

At least I don't dance with them, right?
You know how one big warning sign on Kickstarters is when you ask what the risks to their project are and they just start listing off the risks for crowdfunding as a concept?

That Old Tree
Jun 24, 2012

nah


Absurd Alhazred posted:

Kickstarter COO Sean Leow was interviewed by Comics Beat regarding their blockchain move.

Excerpt from early on:

Always reassuring when the first thing you have to say is that actually, you're not sure you're going to do it.

Proceeds to just spew out buzzwords. No explanation of how their "protocol" is going to solve this problem, other than basically having other people do it for them? (Which they are already doing!)

No actual answers to questions, although Beat has some good ones.

Just embarrassing.

Great to see a Top Man explain some of the problems with his platform that he's in charge of are some things that aren't mandatory or just completely under their control but they just don't want to do them.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Literally just buy and/or merge with Backerkit. But that would actually solve issues that people really have with your platform instead of not solving them, but ON THE BLOCKCHAIN.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
That Comics Beat interview is brutal.

Darwinism
Jan 6, 2008


Kai Tave posted:

That Comics Beat interview is brutal.

I think my favorite exchange is

quote:

THE BEAT: Much of what you’re saying is focused on decentralization, the idea we can have different parts of Kickstarter that are outside of Kickstarter’s control. Yet, in the FAQ, it says that Kickstarter still plans to process all of the payments themselves – there’s no plan to accept crypto currency, and all transactions still go through Kickstarter and Stripe. If Kickstarter is centralizing payments, isn’t Kickstarter still in control, regardless of where data is stored?

LEOW: Right now, Kickstarter controls all of the payment processing with Stripe, our main partner. We’re thinking two to five years into the future.

We don’t know exactly what parts of the payments we might be processing, versus how a protocol might be processing those payments. There is definitely a world where, with a protocol, we aren’t processing the payments. But there are a lot of questions to answer before then to do that in a secure, reliable way where people can feel like they’re not going to be scammed, or that their funds are not going to be stolen by somebody.

And those are problems that we need to answer and feel confidant in before we actually roll out a solution. In the near term, like there are no plans to force people to use cryptocurrency or to fully move our payment system over. But that is, you know, a possibility as we move into a world where there’ll be progressively parts of the system that might be decentralized.

We're thinking of the incredible, dizzying futurescape of two to five years from now, and who can say how payment is gonna work then, huh? It could be that this turns out to be a good idea!

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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This is transparently being pushed by investors and the c-level guys who have no idea what they’re talking about but are tripling down.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Darwinism posted:

I think my favorite exchange is

We're thinking of the incredible, dizzying futurescape of two to five years from now, and who can say how payment is gonna work then, huh? It could be that this turns out to be a good idea!

Or the idiot is saying that the deal with Stripe ends in the next 2-5 years and if they’re going to change vendors, might as well see if they can build a better* solution to replace the vendor and it’s fees. I don’t know why they would be so public about it, other then as a ploy to arm twist a lower fee from the existing vendor?


*they can’t.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Mors Rattus posted:

This is transparently being pushed by investors and the c-level guys who have no idea what they’re talking about but are tripling down.

"Phase one we need a name for the product"

"Uh that's actually the last step, you've got the transparencies out of order"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmQxzBHmWjs&t=486s

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Dawgstar posted:

"It's unregulated! IT'S UNREGULATED!" I scream as I flee into the night, having never dealt with the IRS in my entire lifetime.

there's a really fun (by the standards of tax law, anyways) court case about whether stolen money is taxable. the answer is yes. IRS doesn't give a gently caress, income is income

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

there's a really fun (by the standards of tax law, anyways) court case about whether stolen money is taxable. the answer is yes. IRS doesn't give a gently caress, income is income

Right after laundering, "paying your taxes" is one of the best ways to legitimize otherwise illegitimate income.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Kai Tave posted:

Right after laundering, "paying your taxes" is one of the best ways to legitimize otherwise illegitimate income.

My source is a podcast so grain of salt unless you track down my source to confirm*, but some people actually take the fifth amendment on their tax forms : it's better and easier for some criminals to just put down their income and write in "I'm a drug dealer, go gently caress yourself if you want to know more" because otherwise you could just wind up committing tax crimes on top of your other crimes.


*It was a semi-recent episode of Knowledge Fight where a lawyer was a guest.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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There’s a special form for illegal sources of income. I imag8nebitbtriggers audits a lot, but legally they can’t arrest you for using it.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Mors Rattus posted:

There’s a special form for illegal sources of income. I imag8nebitbtriggers audits a lot, but legally they can’t arrest you for using it.

This is impressive.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

I’ve been researching and interviewing for an article on whatever happened to starship troopers, and run into a bit of a roadblock that no one seems able (or possibly willing) to give a straight answer to. I have interviewed games writers and company people, but one of the recurring mysteries is issues around the license to make the game based on the movie, cartoon and book.

Apparently mongoose publishing lost the starship troopers license as part of a dispute between the Heinlein estate and Sony at some point between 2006 and 2008. I can’t find anything about the dispute, can’t find anything referring to the license at all, and there was apparently an LA court summons in the mix and can’t find anything about that either. What happened seems to be a complete mystery even to many of the people involved, but I’m sure it must be on the internet somewhere.

Everyone I’ve asked, and I mean everyone, has either no idea about it or is quite vague on the details. Anyone know where I should be looking?

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Xiahou Dun posted:

My source is a podcast so grain of salt unless you track down my source to confirm*, but some people actually take the fifth amendment on their tax forms : it's better and easier for some criminals to just put down their income and write in "I'm a drug dealer, go gently caress yourself if you want to know more" because otherwise you could just wind up committing tax crimes on top of your other crimes.


*It was a semi-recent episode of Knowledge Fight where a lawyer was a guest.

The IRS gives zero fucks about how you make your money. And they have a form for that purpose. With the exception of drug dealers, they won't report criminal income to law enforcement. If the cops want that info they need a warrant. So it can be an attractive option for some people like escorts to report their income. It legitimizes the money and local law enforcement tends to be too lazy to try to get that info.

MadDogMike
Apr 9, 2008

Cute but fanged

Mors Rattus posted:

There’s a special form for illegal sources of income. I imag8nebitbtriggers audits a lot, but legally they can’t arrest you for using it.

There's not a special form to my knowledge as a tax preparer, you just put it on either Schedule 1 as other income (if you just commit crimes as a hobby) or Schedule C as a sole proprietorship business (if you've got a well honed drug dealing setup or similar). Though while you have to declare illegal income you CAN'T claim illegal expenses; no writing off bribe money or ammo for your drive by for example. This sort of thing actually comes up more than you'd think because marijuana sales, even in a state where it's legal, are subject to these rules since it's still illegal federally as a Schedule 1 drug. Those guys can claim cost of goods and services (i.e. they can write off the purchase price of the actual MJ they buy) but nothing else a regular business would deduct like advertising, wages, etc.

On a side note I appreciate the continuing ed class I took to learn this stuff used "Blazing a Trail in Marijuana Taxation" as part of the title. The people who make these classes try to make it as dry as possible, seeing them hit a situation where even THEY can't resist making jokes is always amusing :D.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

It's important also to have it on the books that yes the IRS can go at you for unreported criminal income because of the important little case precedent of Al Capone. Like this is something people have loved to bring up for years, but apparently never thought through the implications of how that actually functions beyond that?

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Admiral Joeslop posted:

This is impressive.

Touch typing with an iPad isn’t easy, y’know.

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

lenoon posted:

Apparently mongoose publishing lost the starship troopers license as part of a dispute between the Heinlein estate and Sony at some point between 2006 and 2008. I can’t find anything about the dispute, can’t find anything referring to the license at all, and there was apparently an LA court summons in the mix and can’t find anything about that either. What happened seems to be a complete mystery even to many of the people involved, but I’m sure it must be on the internet somewhere.

I believe this is common knowledge due to Mongoose Matt posting about it on Mongoose's own forums (and I also dimly remember posts on TT industry places, maybe Dakkadakka?). If it did make it into court or court filings, the silence is likely due to a sealed settlement agreement.

You may have better luck finding the court documents.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018
Are there any websites that are actually going "yes! more!" with this whole "NFTs in gaming" thing? The video game side has an NFT champion in Dean Takashi, formerly known works include kissing Bobby Kotick's rear end and being terrible at cuphead, and calling Warhammer 40,000 a Gears of War rip-off. I haven't seen any of the major tabletop sites jump into how NFTs are a good thing, so that's nice? I'm waiting for you to ruin my day, though, thread!

potatocubed
Jul 26, 2012

*rathian noises*

lenoon posted:

Apparently mongoose publishing lost the starship troopers license as part of a dispute between the Heinlein estate and Sony at some point between 2006 and 2008. I can’t find anything about the dispute, can’t find anything referring to the license at all, and there was apparently an LA court summons in the mix and can’t find anything about that either. What happened seems to be a complete mystery even to many of the people involved, but I’m sure it must be on the internet somewhere.

All I can tell you is that I left Mongoose in late 2008 or early 2009 and they were still turning out (or maybe just planning?) pre-painted plastic minis for the Starship Troopers wargame at that point.

That doesn't mean they hadn't lost the license, just that they were acting like they still had it.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Loxbourne posted:


You may have better luck finding the court documents.

Yes he’s posted about it, and I interviewed him as well, but there’s no detail (even a date) forthcoming. The timeline is important to working out what happened - at the moment it makes no sense, lots of stuff happening in 06 is explained as down to the license issue, but then it was yanked in 08? The court documents are the thing to find, I guess - but you’d think the heinlein estate taking on Sony TriStar would be around and easy to find out about, right? The silence is deafening - did it even happen?

potatocubed posted:

All I can tell you is that I left Mongoose in late 2008 or early 2009 and they were still turning out (or maybe just planning?) pre-painted plastic minis for the Starship Troopers wargame at that point.

That doesn't mean they hadn't lost the license, just that they were acting like they still had it.

Now THAT is interesting - the plot thickens!

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


lenoon posted:

I’ve been researching and interviewing for an article on whatever happened to starship troopers, and run into a bit of a roadblock that no one seems able (or possibly willing) to give a straight answer to. I have interviewed games writers and company people, but one of the recurring mysteries is issues around the license to make the game based on the movie, cartoon and book.

Apparently mongoose publishing lost the starship troopers license as part of a dispute between the Heinlein estate and Sony at some point between 2006 and 2008. I can’t find anything about the dispute, can’t find anything referring to the license at all, and there was apparently an LA court summons in the mix and can’t find anything about that either. What happened seems to be a complete mystery even to many of the people involved, but I’m sure it must be on the internet somewhere.

Everyone I’ve asked, and I mean everyone, has either no idea about it or is quite vague on the details. Anyone know where I should be looking?

Starcraft Brood War maps.

Thanlis
Mar 17, 2011

Mors Rattus posted:

This is transparently being pushed by investors and the c-level guys who have no idea what they’re talking about but are tripling down.

They don’t really have that excuse. Kickstarter never took a serious VC round. Their angel investors include people like Matt Haughey, who dislikes crypto, and Jack Dorsey, who … likes it. But I think this is just a really bad CEO idea; some people drink the koolaid.

potatocubed
Jul 26, 2012

*rathian noises*
My understanding is that Jack Dorsey also runs the crypto company that KS has chosen to retain for this ill-fated project. I'd bet money that this is a VC thing meant to lend legitimacy to Cube or whatever it's called by having it be the engine behind a bigger website.

NC Wyeth Death Cult
Dec 30, 2005

He lost his life in Chadds Ford, he was dancing with a train.

Mors Rattus posted:

This is transparently being pushed by investors and the c-level guys who have no idea what they’re talking about but are tripling down.

Buzzwords are a tremendous pain in the rear end because once investors latch onto it that's all they hear. I was involved with tech startups around the time The Social Network came out and if you didn't get past the email filter if you tried to pitch anything that didn't have a friends list and social media elements. Graphic designers who were working from 2005 to 2015 probably still wake up screaming and hearing "make it look more like Apple" echoing in their heads.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

NC Wyeth Death Cult posted:

Buzzwords are a tremendous pain in the rear end because once investors latch onto it that's all they hear. I was involved with tech startups around the time The Social Network came out and if you didn't get past the email filter if you tried to pitch anything that didn't have a friends list and social media elements. Graphic designers who were working from 2005 to 2015 probably still wake up screaming and hearing "make it look more like Apple" echoing in their heads.

Can confirm. Also "it needs more blue" because blue is the color of social networking, which is vitally important for my church newsletter template.

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

I was a media designer for a local Red Cross chapter around then. Yes indeed, I heard make it more Apple-y, make it bluer, just bold all the text, you name it. My favorite were the people that absolutely would not let go of wanting to do stuff visually with the cross. Put little pictures in it! Have it cast a shadow so it looks like an X marks the spot where our building is! And of course no one was willing to so much as consider that there may be a style guide on my desk.

My least favorite was one boss who couldn't describe what we wanted for poo poo, and just kept saying "make it more upscale!"

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



theironjef posted:

My least favorite was one boss who couldn't describe what we wanted for poo poo, and just kept saying "make it more upscale!"

That sounds like an invitation to charge more. :v:

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

Midjack posted:

That sounds like an invitation to charge more. :v:

If I had been a contractor sure. That was a salaried at-will job, I couldn't bargain for poo poo. I'd just go throw another filter on it.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009
In other industry news: https://www.polygon.com/interviews/22944837/roll20-2022-roadmap-new-ceo-feature-improvements-stability

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
https://twitter.com/doctorcomics/status/1496277758770814978

UrbanLabyrinth
Jan 28, 2009

When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence


College Slice

https://twitter.com/doctorcomics/status/1496277768493215747

This is a pretty damning accidental comment on the state of the industry.

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Gray Ghost
Jan 1, 2003

When crime haunts the night, a silent crusader carries the torch of justice.

I’m super interested to see what usability improvements they make; would love them to start with the god-awful jukebox implementation.

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