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So the only thing is: If they don't intend a military action, why were they rounding up teens for duty in the territories. Also, why are they playing the Soviet anthem?
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CommieGIR posted:So the only thing is: If they don't intend a military action, why were they rounding up teens for duty in the territories. That seems to be Russian anthem to me. They only changed the lyrics when the USSR fell.
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CommieGIR posted:Also, why are they playing the Soviet anthem? Because it's the same as the Russian anthem? As far as I can tell that's the lyrics from the chorus of the Russian one.
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There is a worrying lack of posters telling us that Putin is rational in wanting buffer states and it is the evil (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Randarkman posted:Because it's the same as the Russian anthem? As far as I can tell that's the lyrics from the chorus of the Russian one. Oh man I'm amazed I never noticed. Just something I never looked up.
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Imagine being an official dragged into Putin's post-apocalyptic wasteland of an office, forced to mumble something about your opinions on the current crisis to let everybody know your knees are so bent your heels are digging into your skull, and then watching as the man who made you prostrate yourself before him goes on to poo poo his pants on air and completely throw away all credibility he, his country, and you ever had, or ever hoped to possess in the future. Just incredible.
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CommieGIR posted:Oh man I'm amazed I never noticed. Just something I never looked up. They switched the anthem at first, then brought the Soviet one back with new lyrics.
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CommieGIR posted:Oh man I'm amazed I never noticed. Just something I never looked up.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Market is not looking great (this is from Financial Times market data); Does anyone remember the name of the site with the relaxing music, calming imagery in the background and a ticker of current ruble exchange prices and Russian currency reserves?
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I am kinda regretting that I didn't learn Russian to watch the original. This was kinda amazing.
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Grouchio posted:I probably just asked you this half an hour ago - but now that we know of Putin's ramblings do you think his war goal has shifted from the Donbass to Kiev or beyond? I don't think that I could read it. At best, Putin just sends military units into Donbass. At worst its a distraction. That was not a speech that can be easily read intentions wise.
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Discendo Vox posted:Does anyone remember the name of the site with the relaxing music, calming imagery in the background and a ticker of current ruble exchange prices and Russian currency reserves? https://zenrus.ru/
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Xarn posted:There is a worrying lack of posters telling us that Putin is rational in wanting buffer states and it is the evil Everyone's reeling their best friend Putin is anti-communist.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Everyone's reeling their best friend Putin is anti-communist. Imagine learning from the Savior of the world from imperialism himself that the hated Ukrainian Nazi was actually birthed from the very loins of Vladimir Lenin. It takes some time to reckon with this knowledge.
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Xarn posted:There is a worrying lack of posters telling us that Putin is rational in wanting buffer states and it is the evil They are in the gulag known as CSPAM Also I'm mad we had that argument over the letter then putin the next day says he will just do whats in that letter.
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steinrokkan posted:Imagine learning from the Savior of the world from imperialism himself that the hated Ukrainian Nazi was actually birthed from the very loins of Vladimir Lenin. That's why you stick to classics and blame Austr-Hungarian General Staff. No one likes them.
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i think it's fairly safe to assume the summit with macron and biden is off the table because i have no idea how you negotiate with the man that everyone just saw on screen
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QuoProQuid posted:i think it's fairly safe to assume the summit with macron and biden is off the table because i have no idea how you negotiate with the man that everyone just saw on screen I think that's a safe bet. Nobody is going to negotiate in good faith with that mess.
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CommieGIR posted:I don't think that I could read it. At best, Putin just sends military units into Donbass. At worst its a distraction. That was not a speech that can be easily read intentions wise. After mulling it over for a bit, unless he has completely lost the plot, I'd venture that the most sensible target audience for that speech was Putin himself. That's essentially what a man trying hard to convince himself he's doing the right thing, despite all evidence to the contrary, exactly sounds like. In either case: "No one has any clue what happens next" is indeed probably a safe bet at the moment. Aramis fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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Aramis posted:After mulling it over for a bit, unless he has completely lost the plot, I'd venture that the most sensible target audience for that speech was Putin himself. That's essentially exactly what a man trying hard to convince himself he's doing the right thing, despite all evidence to the contrary, sounds like. Maybe its a bluff to get concessions.
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Aramis posted:After mulling it over for a bit, unless he has completely lost the plot, I'd venture that the most sensible target audience for that speech was Putin himself. That's essentially what a man trying hard to convince himself he's doing the right thing, despite all evidence to the contrary, exactly sounds like. Agreed, but its more concerning because it shuts a lot of doors that the West had left open for Russia to defuse this. Like, slammed shut. Conspiratiorist posted:Maybe its a bluff to get concessions. There were so many other ways to bluff that to basically shut the door on a possible peaceful resolution to the Donbass occupation. Its probably the worst bluff because nobody is going to enter negotiations with a guy who not only shot the geopolitical hostage, but is also saying all the others are already dead and invalid.
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https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1495848959335706630 Poor poor Eddie
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Conspiratiorist posted:Maybe its a bluff to get concessions. NATO could officialy admit that Lenin was a Nazi.
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Where can I watch the speech with subtitles
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Ukraine v Russia: Putin admits Lenin was a Nazi
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GABA ghoul posted:If anyone in Europe with even half a braincell left didn't think that we have a Putin problem on our hands, they certainly do now. Diversification away from Russian gas probably starts tomorrow morning 6 am
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https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1495856986478583812?s=20&t=Ru3ztTGZ4TCCsVcFqttKsA Only report on this I've seen. My eyesight is damaged after seeing just how unprepared the EU seemed to be for this. I suppose if you buy into rational actor theory then this is all part of some big game and not a man losing his mind. Oh and Mission Accomplished: https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1495858031220961292?s=20&t=U_PY2V30teFvBEn2QBhD2g
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Count Roland posted:Where can I watch this period? Sputnik stream with live english translation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJl6u13LqeQ&t=1367s Same in text by someone who livetweeted it, no quarantees in accuracy: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1495833306784575488.html
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