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Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Rah! posted:

the survivor is this guy:



That's my boy!

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Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Ruggan posted:

Yeah it’s sort of ironic that we as humans in our generation are pretty much powerless to stop this, it was always sort of meant to be this way. For all the free will and power we claim to wield, we as individuals are unable to keep history from advancing the way it has and will continue to do, and we as a species are unwilling to undermine our drive toward maximal reproduction and resource consumption. It’s just the natural path for us as humankind to take given our environment.

Makes me wonder how many times a similar picture has played out this way somewhere else in the vast reaches of space.

well, historically, you might be able to make a meaningful difference in the world, if you were willing to kill a whole lot of people and didn't get killed doing it

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

T-Paine posted:

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1495095875336613889

quote:

Melissa Ostroff of Earthworks worries current rules still make it too easy for companies to walk away should the industry face a downturn. Companies in the state only need to have bonding set aside of $2,500 for shallow “conventional” wells and $10,000 for shale gas, or “unconventional” wells. That’s far below the state’s current estimate of $68,000 for plugging one well. Her group is asking the state to raise those requirements.

Uh, that's a feature, not a bug. In the Alberta (and probably B.C.) system the wells are owned by numbered companies with the real owners hidden under more layers than a Vancouver casino money laundering operation. When it ceases producing the only assets held by the "owners" are the wellhead itself and an abandoned office rented in a Calgary basement.

The tanker industry uses a similar model. Most of the time a tankship is owned by a numbered company holding at most one or two other tankers. In case of a serious incident there are no assets to seize other than the wreck itself. It gets really bizarre when you get in to how a voyage is a joint venture by three companies - the vessel owner, the cargo owner, and the company managing the voyage and trying to squeeze the crew for an extra 50 cents per day each for less/cheaper food.

The classification agencies that certify these vessels' seaworthiness are for profit ventures paid by the vessel owners and compete with each other. I'm sure this is a flawless system that maintains the highest standards.

There will never be another Exxon Valdes. There are currently between 1,200 and 1,500 ships carrying product for Exxon, but only 5 in Exxon's actual fleet.

Capitalism means never having to say you're sorry.

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Cup Runneth Over posted:

well, historically, you might be able to make a meaningful difference in the world, if you were willing to kill a whole lot of people and didn't get killed doing it

it's malthusianism to bring up temujin but don't make me tap the horizontal tick on the planetary energy chart

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Mameluke posted:

it's malthusianism to bring up temujin but don't make me tap the horizontal tick on the planetary energy chart

the planet is going to make that graph go horizontal no matter what we do.

we could try to salvage our species and keep people alive during that period, or we could make some numbers go higher and eradicate most of the life on the surface of our world.

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Ruggan posted:

Makes me wonder how many times a similar picture has played out this way somewhere else in the vast reaches of space.

You might like Star's Reach.

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

The ocean is calling and I must go

Rime posted:

I extremely recommend reading David Graebers The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity, if thread wants a glimpse of how avoidable this all was and how much of our everyday life relies on structural lies and social indoctrination. The book is CSPAM as gently caress and easily the magnum opus of revisionist Anthropology for the 21st century.


Seconding this; it's a really good read

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
https://twitter.com/ZLabe/status/1495257982912778241

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
were you around to see this supposed ice 1,000 years ago?

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.

Rectal Death Adept posted:

were you around to see this supposed ice 1,000 years ago?

it's just a hockey stick. These things happen in nature, doesn't mean it's man made

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

T-Paine posted:

it's just a hockey stick. These things happen in nature, doesn't mean it's man made
it says “reconstructed” right there in the title. they don’t show the natural ice levels because that wouldn’t support the woke agenda!!

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
https://twitter.com/ClimateCentral/status/1495148688699576320

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

TACD posted:

it says “reconstructed” right there in the title. they don’t show the natural ice levels because that wouldn’t support the woke agenda!!
sounds like liberal data science that is focusing on a cherry picked timeframe (500 AD - 2000 AD) to zoom in on what appears to be a startling and unprecedented drop in ice levels



As you can see by this graph we aren't even a blip on the scale of past ice melts an re-glaciations.

You doomers are acting like ice won't be back in a million years or that the baseline climate conditions from 100,000,000 BC coming back on top of our emissions is a bad thing. They already happened in 100,000,000 BC and earth is still here idiots.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005


[Biosphere Collapse] Serious, Salty Trouble

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

littoral anagrams to tortilla

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
Serious, Salty Trouble is about the plummeting birthrate

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
Salty trouble is what I call my balls.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
https://twitter.com/PCarterClimate/status/1495238271177166853?t=HwQ9CkjJLsJG4-S2YGqCvA&s=19

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

It's strange how a raw measurement of the undeniable atmospheric carbon content is at such strangely apocalyptic levels beyond all of our emission estimates.

It's a good thing all of the dumbass Climate Legislation and most types of Activism are all based entirely on those graphs claiming 1.5c by 2050 or whatever.

DynamicSloth
Jul 30, 2006

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Rime posted:

Was I... Was I wrong?!???

E: About the whole "oil is the divine right to rule and governments will subsidize these projects until the last drop is burned" thesis.

Yes. Big clue should have been how prepared they were with that press release. TMX is still full speed ahead they're just letting the market know they're prepared to sell off their equity in a fire sale.

kater
Nov 16, 2010


helluva geocities link in that tweet

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


kater posted:

helluva geocities link in that tweet

i want to sign the guestbook

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

Why homo sapiens had to be an evolutionary dead end, which destroys the species and most/all other species sharing the same biosphere with it?

Yes I know the answer. Just lamenting the fact...

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Ihmemies posted:

Why homo sapiens had to be an evolutionary dead end, which destroys the species and most/all other species sharing the same biosphere with it?

Yes I know the answer. Just lamenting the fact...

Number go up.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Just think, in several million years some other species will rise from the ashes of our civilization and invent number all over again

Bathtub Cheese
Jun 15, 2008

I lust for Chinese world conquest. The truth does not matter before the supremacy of Dear Leader Xi.

Iron Crowned posted:

Just think, in several million years some other species will rise from the ashes of our civilization and invent number all over again

You can count on it!

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
If you have one thing then having two thing is better. If you have billion thing then two billion thing better.

are you fools saying having more thing bad? more thing good

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Ruggan posted:

Yeah it’s sort of ironic that we as humans in our generation are pretty much powerless to stop this, it was always sort of meant to be this way. For all the free will and power we claim to wield, we as individuals are unable to keep history from advancing the way it has and will continue to do, and we as a species are unwilling to undermine our drive toward maximal reproduction and resource consumption. It’s just the natural path for us as humankind to take given our environment.

Makes me wonder how many times a similar picture has played out this way somewhere else in the vast reaches of space.
in the latest ffxiv expansion (big/cosmic spoilers), the ancient antagonist is revealed to be thousands of empathic familiars linked by a hivemind who were sent out into space to meet other cultures only to discover countless dead worlds ruined by their now extinct civilizations and a few actively in the process of collapse and extinction. they unintentionally absorb the trauma of these innumerable peoples to become the literal manifestation of universal despair and nihilism who then embarked on a mission to end what life remains and prevent further beings from coming into existence to spare them suffering

maybe I'm just brokebrained now but the concept doesn't even seem outlandish at this point in our history

tiberion02
Mar 26, 2007

People tend to make the common mistake of believing that a situation will last forever.

Lordshmee posted:

I have reached a conclusion that has been building within me for quite a long while. that Extinction Matrix website sealed the deal for me. we’re not monsters, or some kind of aberration bucking “natural law”, as I’ve been thinking for a long time. No, we’re just like every other lifeform on this planet, in this universe. Driven by eons of of the only directive that ever was: reproduce. maximize reproduction, at whatever means at your disposal. The cosmic joke is that we managed to evolve to be too good at it. we’re so good at maximizing production and reproduction that we’re destroying our environment, and our biological imperative is so strong that we can’t stop doing it. even those of us - the majority at this point - who understand our systems lead to inevitable doom - can’t stop us as a whole from doing it anyway. we really are an evolutionary failure, by definition.

what a loving bummer.

lol

lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8x73UW8Hjk

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Tekne posted:

in the latest ffxiv expansion (big/cosmic spoilers), the ancient antagonist is revealed to be thousands of empathic familiars linked by a hivemind who were sent out into space to meet other cultures only to discover countless dead worlds ruined by their now extinct civilizations and a few actively in the process of collapse and extinction. they unintentionally absorb the trauma of these innumerable peoples to become the literal manifestation of universal despair and nihilism who then embarked on a mission to end what life remains and prevent further beings from coming into existence to spare them suffering

maybe I'm just brokebrained now but the concept doesn't even seem outlandish at this point in our history

Almost like we've howled for our own extinction ever since we realized what combining car and war does.

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
https://twitter.com/KateAronoff/status/1495822128381313031

kater
Nov 16, 2010

I'm watching star trek tng cuz goon.exe and there's an episode where this world gone to poo poo over war and cc signs a pact with the devil to save the planet but sell it to them in 1000 years. This is now my political stance.

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice

kater posted:

I'm watching star trek tng cuz goon.exe and there's an episode where this world gone to poo poo over war and cc signs a pact with the devil to save the planet but sell it to them in 1000 years. This is now my political stance.

tbf this is basically what we did, except the timeframe was much shorter and life was truly only good for a certain percentage of the first world :shrug:

NotPerfect
Sep 29, 2021

Iron Crowned posted:

Just think, in several million years some other species will rise from the ashes of our civilization and invent number all over again

Which species do you think will be uplifted to take humanity's place? I'm personally rooting for otters.

NotPerfect has issued a correction as of 21:06 on Feb 21, 2022

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

NotPerfect posted:

Which species do you think will be uplifted to take humanity's place? I'm personally rooting for otters.

No way are otters making it if we go down.

Jellyfish are the future.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
organic life was clearly a mistake so i'm hoping nature tries something sillicon-based next

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Wow,

Why does your phone not right justify the battery meter?!

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Shyrka posted:

No way are otters making it if we go down.

Jellyfish are the future.

Aquatic animals can't develop electricity.

It's definitely gonna be some kind of bird that invents the next civilization.

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Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


smoobles posted:

Aquatic animals can't develop electricity.

that sounds like landlubber talk to me

u will be sorry when the hyper mantas attack

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