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Outrail posted:I really don't think that knob switches between night and day. No, but it does switch between NIGHT OFF and DAY, which is the same thing
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Feb 21, 2022 00:37
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Captain Hygiene posted:I secretly miss the little slideout keyboard on one of my older phones. Duck swiftkey Same but not secretly. Shame that no one makes phones with physical keys anymore.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:26
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Sagebrush posted:The fundamental problem there is that a flashlight does not need to have that many God drat options. Nobody on the planet will use them. They exist entirely for tacticlol spergs who for some reason have decided that a flashlight is a symbol of their manhood. Congratulations on finding the only UI option worse than the single button.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:43
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Bluetooth everything everywhere and offload it to smartphone apps and voice control Doorknobs are for pansies and why the gently caress do I have to push a button at all
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Feb 21, 2022 04:20
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Platystemon posted:Congratulations on finding the only UI option worse than the single button. it's absolutely fine to offload nitpicky settings that you'll only ever change once to an external configuration tool. if i were forced by a horrible idiot manager to design a flashlight that had all of those functions controlled by a single button, i would at the very least split it into two interfaces: 1) default mode when turned on; click button to cycle between bright, dim and off 2) stupid garbage configuration mode; hold button down for 10 seconds while it's off to enter this mode, where you can do whatever dumb poo poo you want. at least that way anyone can just pick up the flashlight and use it. lmao i can't believe they call people who aren't in their group "muggles." here is a fantastic podcast episode about them btw https://thefpl.us/episode/273
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Feb 21, 2022 04:40
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DarkHorse posted:Bluetooth everything everywhere and offload it to smartphone apps and voice control My Osmo Action had an app for configuration (even though the device itself has a full touch screen, go figure) that stopped working when I updated my Android phone. As an added bonus, I couldn't use the camera at all until I downloaded their app and made an account (even though it does absolutely nothing and doesn't pair with your phone as a part of normal operation). Smartphone apps to do things the device ought to do on its own are a terrible idea since they introduce a pretty significant point of failure.
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Sagebrush posted:it's absolutely fine to offload nitpicky settings that you'll only ever change once to an external configuration tool. I don’t want to plug my flashlight into my computer and install software to mess with the settings, and even if I did, my ability to do so may be compromised in five years by ever‐shifting hardware and software landscape. Sagebrush posted:if i were forced by a horrible idiot manager to design a flashlight that had all of those functions controlled by a single button, i would at the very least split it into two interfaces: Yeah that could work. I’ve used a number of devices with simple numeric displays that have similar configuration menus. The numbers only mean something when decoded using a table in the manual or stuck to the side of the device.
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Ensign Expendable posted:My Osmo Action had an app for configuration (even though the device itself has a full touch screen, go figure) that stopped working when I updated my Android phone. As an added bonus, I couldn't use the camera at all until I downloaded their app and made an account (even though it does absolutely nothing and doesn't pair with your phone as a part of normal operation). Smartphone apps to do things the device ought to do on its own are a terrible idea since they introduce a pretty significant point of failure. I forgot to include the parenthetical "wait why can't I get into my house anymore" It was intended entirely sarcastically, like that commercial of the hyper-modern house that locked the owner out because he got stung by a bee (the swelling rendering his fingerprints, voice, and facial recognition inoperable)
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Sagebrush posted:if i were forced by a horrible idiot manager to design a flashlight that had all of those functions controlled by a single button, i would at the very least split it into two interfaces: The only thing guaranteed to produce a UI worse than a horrible idiot manager is open source software, and guess what this is! Whether the on-device configuration is "hold down for n seconds" or "click n times" is about the same I'd say. Normal usage of the flashlight is still just press once to turn on, once more to turn off. The biggest crime of that diagram is feature overload.
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Flashlight people are insane and still I really like the idea of flashing the firmware of flashlights so I can have a better UX lol. The f plus had an episode on flashlight people and I want to say someone was asking what ui to install on the flashlight they were giving their 6 year old kid or something.
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NFX posted:Whether the on-device configuration is "hold down for n seconds" or "click n times" is about the same I'd say. Normal usage of the flashlight is still just press once to turn on, once more to turn off. The biggest crime of that diagram is feature overload. I'd say that "click n times" is worse because you could easily do that unintentionally. Nobody is holding down the flashlight button for 10 seconds by accident.
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Big fan of "press power button three times to format the memory card" on that dashcam one.
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Sagebrush posted:I'd say that "click n times" is worse because you could easily do that unintentionally. Nobody is holding down the flashlight button for 10 seconds by accident. idk it might be in a bag with something pressing against it
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Big fan of "press power button three times to format the memory card" on that dashcam one.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Big fan of "press power button three times to format the memory card" on that dashcam one. Same reason cops bodycams are so easy to turn off.
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Outrail posted:Do any major chains give official discounts to cops like vets? I'm sure lots of small businesses do. Phy posted:Nobody blinks at the Calgary Flames, but if they'd stayed where they started out, in Atlanta... Karia posted:Turn on for eight seconds. Then, turn off for two seconds. Turn on for eight seconds. Turn off for two seconds. Turn on for eight seconds. Turn off for two seconds. Turn on for eight seconds. Turn off for two seconds. Turn on for eight seconds. Turn off for two seconds.
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Platystemon posted:Congratulations on finding the only UI option worse than the single button. Neither of us would be affected either way because we wouldn't be using those dumb features, but if hunting down the manual and poring over state machine diagrams is less onerous to you than hooking it to a computer and using a lovely application--even if you have to crack open loving dosbox to run the thing--you lead a very different life than I do.
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I feel like it'd be easier to do something like have jumper pins inside the battery compartment or something.
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most of the suggestions to make it easier are very good ideas but add more than you might think to the cost of a unit even the 'use a computer to configure it' idea, which sounds bad for all of the times I am not at a computer, involves either a USB socket (and a common wear-n-tear failure point) or Bluetooth (and battery drain), and those aren't cheap if you want to avoid those parenthetical downsides Design of a device should, imo, avoid requiring a PC or phone unless it adds functionality that the computer can do and the device can't (i.e. online firmware updates)- my mouse has lights that have to be configured thru software, and the mouse is connected to the PC 24/7, and it's still obnoxious- but that's just, im, ho, I'm sure that paradigm works for some ppl idk my 'fanciest' flashlights don't get much more complicated than "off->white->red->red blink->off" but of all the over-engineered one-button arduinoesque devices, that one has a diagram that instantly makes sense to me, but that might just be me genuine kudos for whoever kicked that diagram out
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Peanut Butler posted:most of the suggestions to make it easier are very good ideas but add more than you might think to the cost of a unit My brother went through the process of turning a one-off gadget that he 3d printed into something he can sell, and you're definitely right about how unit cost can get out of control. Sure, it's a buck to add a component, but if you're making 1000, it adds up.
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Bob and George has its place, and that place is 2004
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Neither of us would be affected either way because we wouldn't be using those dumb features, but if hunting down the manual and poring over state machine diagrams is less onerous to you than hooking it to a computer and using a lovely application--even if you have to crack open loving dosbox to run the thing--you lead a very different life than I do. Hunting down the manual: Google <product name> <pdf>, if I haven’t already filed it away myself. Hooking it to a computer: hunt for a FireWire cable in my big box of cables. Give up entirely when I realize that the software only exists on a CD and may not work on anything since Windows XP.
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 What is the appeal of a white car?
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I feel like it'd be easier to do something like have jumper pins inside the battery compartment or something. This is what DIP switches are for, isn't it? Stick a bunch of those in the battery compartment, old-school remote control style.
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I’m the natural car color.ToxicFrog posted:This is what DIP switches are for, isn't it? Stick a bunch of those in the battery compartment, old-school remote control style. Those may be incompatible with the construction or assembly of the product (e.g. all the components are surface‐mount), and even if there’s no technical reason to leave them out, it helps your profit margins.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:
Turkmenbashi legislated that all cars in the capital be white
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white cars dont absorb light as readily as darker colors
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I think they're mostly work vans and fleet vehicles Now, silver and grey (which are the same loving colour) I don't get. Why live your life like that?
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:
I think China really throws off that statistic. Easily 90% of the cars on the road here are white for some reason.
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flavor.flv posted:I think they're mostly work vans and fleet vehicles In my experience those are bought for people who make sales calls to their customers.
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Something about green cars makes me think of the mid 90's to the mid 2000's. I don't know what causes that association.
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in japan, white cars are popular because they're both not a flashy color and highly visible for safety purposes. why they don't just do daytime running lights here i do not know. bet the share of grey, silver and black cars would shoot up a lot if they did.Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Something about green cars makes me think of the mid 90's to the mid 2000's. I don't know what causes that association. 
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I misread it and thought that it was saying 1% of blue cars were deceased. Is there a blue car serial killer on the loose? Is it the same person going after red, silver, and natural cars?
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White cars also look cleaner than color cars. Black shows up dirt way worse than anything else. I regret buying a black car it sucks.
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White cars are also the standard in the middle east for obvious reasons. Also seems to be the most common color for fleet vehicles in Europe as well probably just because it's the most generic. Here's a awful car color chart: 
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Fordite?
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Splicer posted:Fordite? 
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