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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I'm a little vague on the details now, because I'm not sure if the police raiding their offices came before or after this - but the eXile ran a joke insinuating that Putin was gay. There was a story in Russian press about Putin's wife telling the Russian version of Liberace to "stay away from him," so they published the gay joke. One of the more powerful goons in United Russia took that as his cue to try and impress the big man and went on a radio show, where he dropped all sorts of innuendo that sounded like exactly what's said about every other journalist in Russia who ended up being assassinated. So Mark didn't take any chances and fled back to America. Thanks for the explanation. In what probably wasn't meant to humanize Putin, one of the Gerard de Villiers books begins with one of Putin's advisors telling him to look at a website because it'll make him mad. The website is designed to piss him off and he indeed gets mad. What separates him from the common man is that he then orders the plutonium-laced death of the oligarch who finances the website
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 05:56 |
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i say swears online posted:it's a blindspot and i'm increasingly frustrated that they do not. north, west, east, central, south, pick a region, contact a professor, set up an interview. again their last biafran expert had a british accent. i want someone to scoff at john as oyinbo i liked the al-shabaab episode they did if you just call up a rando professor you risk getting someone with whom you just absolutely don't gel or who has weird crank ideas. may be preferable to tapping whatever affluent expat you can get your hands on, but it's got some risks attached
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 10:45 |
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There are a few conflicting stories about how The Exile died. From the Vanity Fair article that's over a decade old:quote:he demise of The Exile began, as so many demises have in Russia, with an official letter. Faxed to the offices of the newspaper late on a Friday afternoon the spring before last from somewhere within the bowels of Rossvyazokhrankultura, the Russian Federal Service for Mass Media, Telecommunications, and Cultural Heritage Protection, it announced the imminent “conducting of an unscheduled action to check the observance of the legislation of the Russian Federation on mass media.” The Exile, a Moscow-based, English-language biweekly, stood accused of violating Article Four of that legislation by encouraging extremism, spreading pornography, or promoting drug use. The letter scheduled the unscheduled action to take place between May 13 and June 11. This being Russia, it wasn’t faxed until May 22. That tends to be Ames's view on how things ended. Some of the investors in the paper had a different take: quote:After Taibbi left, Ames became The Exile’s sole editor in chief and its lead reporter, writing investigative pieces on covert U.S. involvement in Georgia and on oil disputes in the Caspian Sea and, in a painful Socratic episode, covering the trial and incarceration of Edward Limonov, in what may be the best work of his career. Jake Rudnitsky filed excellent dispatches from Siberia and the Urals. John Dolan moved to Moscow and started a first-rate literary column in which he was an early outer of faux memoirist James Frey. But The Exile was never much of a business, and Moscow was changing. It had become expensive and clean and was taking on an ominous neo-Soviet flush. The expats had gone home, and journalists, including Americans, were being killed. Forbes Russia editor Paul Klebnikov, whom Ames knew, was gunned down in 2004. “Even the snow seemed archaic and doomed,” says Dolan, who left in 2006. The Exile nearly collapsed in 2007, before a group of private investors bailed it out. So Ames might be embellishing some to ignore the fact that the paper's financials were bad shape. Hard to say, but if you want to read all the dirty details the article is [url=https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/02/exile-201002]here[/url.] One highlight is the author meets up with Matt Taibbi for coffee. Matt throws the coffee in the journalist's face after he tells him the Exile book wasn't very good.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 11:14 |
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the basic account seems straightforward, though - ames got visited by the feds, people got spooked, paper died. i can certainly imagine that they didn't really earn enough to justify further investment, especially in the new, more repressive russia and that ames himself didn't handle the stress very well, but it's natural to not want to blame oneself when something one's fought pretty courageously for fails if there are other credible culprits available
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 11:21 |
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Yeah it's really just about the dirty details. Missing context from those quotations (that's elsewhere in the article) is that before that Ames went back to the states to do research for Going Postal, Taibbi took over as editor, got addicted to heroin, and ran the paper into the ground. That's the story anyway.
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# ? Feb 23, 2022 03:32 |
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quote:John Dolan moved to Moscow and started a first-rate literary column in which he was an early outer of faux memoirist James Frey. That one was an all-time banger, given how popular that stupid book was at the time. http://exiledonline.com/a-million-pieces-of-poo poo/
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# ? Feb 23, 2022 04:06 |
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i absolutely forgot about that, holy poo poo lmbooooooooooo
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# ? Feb 23, 2022 04:51 |
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Nothus posted:That one was an all-time banger, given how popular that stupid book was at the time. quote:But then Frey is no expert observer, as he proves in one of the funniest scenes from his nature walks, when he meets a “fat otter”: “There is an island among the rot, a large, round Pile with monstrous protrusions like the arms of a Witch. There is chatter beneath the pile and a fat brown otter with a flat, armored tail climbs atop and he stares at me.” lmao
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# ? Feb 23, 2022 05:47 |
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can't wait for the next ep lol
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 08:11 |
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TenementFunster posted:can't wait for the next ep lol It'll be recorded well before today.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 09:43 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It'll be recorded well before today. i hope so at any rate. there isn't going to be any good information coming out of there for a few days at least.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 09:47 |
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massive four-hour ep on how the cia's increasingly hysterical deadlines and putin's border maneuvers was all posturing; john has a layover in lvov on the way to canada but he's not worried. he's heard the restrooms open and close very sensibly
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 09:47 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It'll be recorded well before today.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 09:48 |
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TenementFunster posted:no, they said on patreon that there will be an emergency ep, presumably where Mark Ames apologies to all the natsec libs he spent his entire career making GBS threads on Mark Ames prepared to offer apology to The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 09:51 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Mark Ames prepared to offer apology to The Boy Who Cried Wolf. hasan went loving prostrate today lol
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 09:59 |
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i say swears online posted:hasan went loving prostrate today lol Yeah, he's a moron. The intelligence community has made the wrong calls every step of the way, even claiming that the peacekeeping mission is what they meant by invasion all along. The Biden admin changed its tune on the peacekeeping mission within a day. Even when they were right they got it wrong. It's incredible.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 10:02 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Mark Ames prepared to offer apology to The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Pener Kropoopkin posted:Yeah, he's a moron. The intelligence community has made the wrong calls every step of the way, even claiming that the peacekeeping mission is what they meant by invasion all along. The Biden admin changed its tune on the peacekeeping mission within a day. Even when they were right they got it wrong. It's incredible.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 10:03 |
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TenementFunster posted:lol come on dude I will come on no dudes, sir.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 10:04 |
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If you put it all on black and keep doubling your stake each time you lose eventually you'll come out ahead. doesnt mean you knew where the wheel would stop.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 10:48 |
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Good idea. I think I'll call my bank for a little proposition...
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 10:52 |
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The existence of the single green number means this will never work on a long enough timescale. Dunno what that means for the metaphor. Edit: It means Possad was right, lets drop some nukes baby! Yadoppsi has issued a correction as of 13:27 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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How's John Dolan doing right now. Are his years studying the Fulda Gap flooding back to him.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 16:47 |
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John admits he was wrong as well. https://twitter.com/TheWarNerd/status/1496877833041457155?t=zl_4-xdkOL_6woiZ6nuVQg&s=19
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 17:01 |
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apologize to the audience not the libs
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 17:05 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It'll be recorded well before today. he posted this on facebook on tuesday quote:Gary Brecher i know that mark had a tweet yesterday 10 minutes before poo poo kicked off that was one of his "all of these analysts have been promising this for n weeks", but it looks like it's the rare situation where a big event doesn't happen immediately after the episode gets recorded.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 17:24 |
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Phone posted:he posted this on facebook on tuesday Don't say that. gently caress.
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 18:29 |
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At the current rate of RWN predictions this will turn into a nuclear conflict shortly after the next episode. "So John how you doing?" "Got some radiation from nearly being nuked and my leg hurts but otherwise you know, ok. Got turned away from the fallout shelter for reasons we still don't understand but we're hoping to catch a raft to Galway to pursue the Irish citizenship thing again."
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 18:34 |
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Mark Ames on Facebook posted:
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 18:37 |
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mark and John are good men
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# ? Feb 24, 2022 23:33 |
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being wrong but being able to explain why is a lot more compelling than being right and not having any actual reasons for your claim, which is definitely what most of the punditry were doing.
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 03:39 |
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Dreylad posted:being wrong but being able to explain why is a lot more compelling than being right and not having any actual reasons for your claim, which is definitely what most of the punditry were doing. even being contrite about being wrong is more than any pundit has ever done
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 04:00 |
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That’s the thing. To get to the point where they were right, they made a lot of mistakes and were wrong about a lot of stuff. I think the amount of false alarms they registered overall made people think an invasion wouldn’t happen. I didn’t think it would happen but I thought NATO and the Americans would make some concession and they didn’t. That’s the thing this time, they are fighting in a non NATO country so the stakes are lower and the refugees will be soaked up by the newcomers to NATO so the price won’t be paid by the major powers in NATO.
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 04:32 |
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Dreylad posted:being wrong but being able to explain why is a lot more compelling than being right and not having any actual reasons for your claim, which is definitely what most of the punditry were doing. ames made fun of people for leaving the country just a few days ago!
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 05:25 |
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TenementFunster posted:sure but when you’ve been spiking the ball on other people for getting things wrong, it’s time for a lot of introspection when you are the one who is owned that seems to be what those posts are about, ames and his russian contact circle all have to re-evaluate things.
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 05:29 |
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TenementFunster posted:sure but when you’ve been spiking the ball on other people for getting things wrong, it’s time for a lot of introspection when you are the one who is owned I think every single one of them felt like they ran through a brick wall when they heard
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 05:35 |
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Shadowboxing mark and john in the radio war nerd thread.
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 14:46 |
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Shadowboxing mark and john in the radio war nerd thread.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Shadowboxing mark and john in the radio war nerd thread. He's actually posting about it in all the politics podcast threads
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 14:55 |
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The Russian move into Ukraine is odd and not sure what their long play is but I'm looking forward to learning about it.
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# ? Feb 25, 2022 16:04 |
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It makes no sense to me, I obviously don’t know much about the region but from what I do know I can’t see any way this doesn’t backfire on Putin.Pener Kropoopkin posted:on the peacekeeping mission lol
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