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That speech is not unhinged. if the kremlin translation is to be trusted, it's a pretty tame declaration of war.
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Bedshaped posted:That speech is not unhinged. if the kremlin translation is to be trusted, it's a pretty tame declaration of war. I think people are using 'unhinged' here in the way it was rambling and rather incoherent. It was a Trump quality speech.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:19 |
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CommieGIR posted:I think people are using 'unhinged' here in the way it was rambling and rather incoherent. It was a Trump quality speech. My understanding is that transcripts often clean up Trump speeches, especially in translation, so he comes off as less of a lunatic to people who read them too, so that checks out to me. Plus obviously going into a hundred year old series of recriminations against Ukraine existing at all really doesn't sound like someone who's only interested in the political rights of tiny slivers of breakaway territory.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:24 |
Count Roland posted:Are there reliable print transcripts of the speech around yet? I found I didn't much want to watch Putin as he spoke. The official one linked above seems to be reliable, but it doesn’t appear to be finished yet.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:24 |
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cinci zoo sniper posted:The official one linked above seems to be reliable, but it doesn’t appear to be finished yet. Yes the ones I saw last night all had "to be continued" for some reason. I guess I'll have to subscribe to the next season to get the full details? What a rip off.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:33 |
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https://twitter.com/UkrWarReport/status/1496115178018152450
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:38 |
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:42 |
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"We're a pariah state now. You better believe it when we say we aint sayin poo poo"
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:44 |
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All hail the First Galactic Donbass
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Sinteres posted:My understanding is that transcripts often clean up Trump speeches, especially in translation, so he comes off as less of a lunatic to people who read them too, so that checks out to me. Lmao, reading transcripts made Trump sound even more like a sociopathic rear end in a top hat. Same with Vlad.
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https://twitter.com/islingtonchap/status/1496051046938034176?s=21
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:53 |
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Does anybody have that list of charities in Ukraine that was posted earlier in the thread? I forgot to save it and I have friends and family asking what they can do to help.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:55 |
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Landlords getting hosed over seems like win, win, win.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:55 |
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Oh no, those poor landlords
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 14:58 |
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What a tragedy that would be
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:00 |
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thats_bait.gif also, boris pls
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:00 |
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Yeah that's someone doing a bit.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:01 |
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Navalny had a response on social media, sorry about Instagram, but that's where I saw it https://www.instagram.com/p/CaR4GuwtOqE/?utm_medium=copy_link
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:03 |
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"WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE LANDLORDS?!" No
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:07 |
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I think that one was yesterday.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:08 |
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Count Roland posted:Yes the ones I saw last night all had "to be continued" for some reason. I guess I'll have to subscribe to the next season to get the full details? What a rip off. Yeah it was a late night. Here's the original Russian which looks complete. http://kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/67828 And the section about hunting down people. That was a pretty misleading tweet. Damned if you have editors and they write your headlines, damned if you don't and you write your tweets yourself. Putin posted:Невозможно без содрогания вспоминать о страшной трагедии в Одессе, где участники мирной акции протеста были зверски убиты, заживо сожжены в Доме профсоюзов. Преступники, которые совершили это злодеяние, не наказаны, их никто и не ищет. Но мы знаем их поимённо и сделаем всё для того, чтобы их покарать, найти и предать суду.
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Nitrox posted:Navalny had a response on social media, sorry about Instagram, but that's where I saw it Here's the twitter version: https://twitter.com/navalny/status/1496098720076767236 Alexey Navalny posted:Yesterday I watched the “session of the Security Council”, this gathering of dotards and thieves (it seems to me that our Anti-Corruption Foundation has done investigations into the corruption of every single one of them).
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:11 |
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How does that even work unless all of London housing is owned by Russian oligarchs?
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:11 |
Bedshaped posted:That speech is not unhinged. if the kremlin translation is to be trusted, it's a pretty tame declaration of war. I would say it is unhinged in what it’s says (the entire history revisionism part) not why it says that. It’s also worth noting that translations - and text transcripts especially - do not convey exact meaning of words, or the body language, or various mannerisms like dramatic pauses or exhales. Similarly, if it’s a foreign language, you just see it as a something removed - many foreign speakers will swear rather liberally in English, gently caress this gently caress that, but not in their native languages.
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Solaris 2.0 posted:How does that even work unless all of London housing is owned by Russian oligarchs? 1) It's a joke. The punchline is even "declare war" so it's not exactly subtle. 2) House prices can go down if even a small subset of owners are forced to sell. 3) It's a joke.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:16 |
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That's clearly shot in the summer time
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:23 |
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Somebody's feeling a bit trollish this morning: https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1496115593149358081?s=20&t=GCZfCKx6XcS9dOaYaQ70hQ
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:24 |
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Its worth mentioning but about 65% of a houses price is land speculation. Commercial buildings and highrises usually have more towards intrinsic value but that's because they are massive and made of sterner stuff. It's worth remembering a 300k house is usually a 60k house on a 240k lot. And cities can inflate that lot value even more. So a sudden glut can really drop the price.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:25 |
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CommieGIR posted:I think people are using 'unhinged' here in the way it was rambling and rather incoherent. It was a Trump quality speech. No. Trump speeches are famous for being incoherent. Putin's speech followed a basic structure of cycling through three topics: - Current problems and Russian grievances prompted by NATO actions. - Ukrainian incompetence or corruption they need to be saved from. - Historical claims to the Ukraine*, going back further each time. It's being called unhinged for the content, since not only was it very atypically aggressive rhetoric and coming directly from a head of state with a ready army in war footing, but also involved a whole lesson in historical interpretation touching on topics that you aren't supposed to in our modern rules-based international order. *Contextual emphasis, not endorsement.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:25 |
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Just gonna say that I don't think US embassies should be posting poo poo like that.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:25 |
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Deteriorata posted:Somebody's feeling a bit trollish this morning: Begun, the Meme wars have.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:28 |
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Sinteres posted:Just gonna say that I don't think US embassies should be posting poo poo like that. Embassies meme at each other all the time. It's been the standard for over a decade.
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CommieGIR posted:Begun, the Meme wars have. Star Trek's A Taste of Armageddon is the future we deserve.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:30 |
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Conspiratiorist posted:Embassies meme at each other all the time. It's been the standard for over a decade. Just speaking as an American I think it's hugely embarrassing for my country to be putting out troll memes that insult an entire nation (as opposed to just its political leadership) in the middle of a serious crisis, and I don't care if other countries do it too.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:31 |
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Kamrat posted:Ukrainians will have an easier time integrating into society because of their whiteness, Ukrainians will maybe get away with some nasty remarks every now and then until it's forgotten and they're integrated properly. This is something that middle easterners can never properly do because no matter what they do they're perceived as others because of the colour of their skin. This is the difference between Visible Minority and not. Not the difference between "experiences discrimination" and "experiences no problems at all". Western Europe has a long and storied career of being prejudice against EE people (and SE people! Who by NE standards often do count as visible), and betting against that is a good way to lose money.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:32 |
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Sinteres posted:Just gonna say that I don't think US embassies should be posting poo poo like that. I generally don't mind, but it feels awkward when they are less US Embassy Kyiv and more US Embassy Part-time Lviv part-time some I am sure totally lovely town in Poland the name of which escapes me.
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:34 |
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if enough people show up at once they will be seen as a threat because they'll embody change and change always makes people feel threatened and prejudice against them will develop even if none existed before
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:35 |
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I thought the new thread title said big sacrifice for not a lot of grain
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# ? Feb 22, 2022 15:35 |
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Sinteres posted:Just speaking as an American I think it's hugely embarrassing for my country to be putting out troll memes that insult an entire nation (as opposed to just its political leadership) in the middle of a serious crisis, and I don't care if other countries do it too. What was insulting about it? It seems pretty factual to me. It's just showing that Kiev was a prosperous civilization before Moscow was even a thing. It's a visual counter argument to Putin's assertions in his speech.
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