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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Some Guy TT posted:

lol at the mask slipping implication there that wants ukraine to become the next afghanistan the whole country existing for other reason as far as were concerned except to gently caress up our geopolitical enemies

America can’t convince people to wear masks to save a million lives for public health, but wants Ukrainians to fight to the last man.

Christ.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

R. Guyovich posted:

god, the ukraine crisis really is bringing all the nimrods back to this thread

*western historianishly* it's like a human wave attack

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

crepeface posted:

"we are grinding you down," says a frozen icicle with scholz's voice

It's hard for me to take that guy seriously because he's a dead ringer for Colin Robinson from What We Do in the Shadows.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Lyndon LaRouche posted:

Liberals in Canada are sure going way out of their way to compare the trucker convoy to white supremacists and neo-nazis.

Which should really make you question what you think of them if you've been hoodwinked into thinking the truckers represent fascism in any way.

Post/Username combo though

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Flayer posted:

The Russian military sucks poo poo compared to the US military, as does every other military. Take the US out of the equation however and the Russian army is absolutely the worst army to be going up against in a land war. If Russia is hell-bent on taking Kiev whatever the cost it would be fairly quickly achieved.

I'm not so much talking about the Russian Army not being able to beat Ukraine in a fight, but their logistics are completely hosed. Things in Russia are better than they were 20 years ago but anywhere outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg has just not gotten investment. Idk how long they could actually keep up the fight before things started breaking down.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Flayer posted:

That's the point. The best the West can do if they go all out against Russia is win an economic war and degrade Russia's ability to project power but nothing barring full military commitment from the US military is actually able to defeat the Russian military. And that's only a theoretical discussion anyway at current technology levels because nukes exist.

IMO Any economic war would fracture the West because it relies so heavily on Chinese imports that I seriously doubt that they would stand united against China who would obviously buck the sanctions. We've seen what happens when the US tries to saber rattle against China when they had their little boaters for Trump rally in the south china sea recently and the only ones who showed up were the Australians, British, and the Japanese. Europe hosed right off.

More than that, the only weapon the West has is the US dollar and that rapidly circling the drain.

Cpt_Obvious has issued a correction as of 14:29 on Feb 23, 2022

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"

Zeroisanumber posted:

I'm not so much talking about the Russian Army not being able to beat Ukraine in a fight, but their logistics are completely hosed. Things in Russia are better than they were 20 years ago but anywhere outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg has just not gotten investment. Idk how long they could actually keep up the fight before things started breaking down.

- German military intelligence circa 1940

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Frosted Flake posted:

America can’t convince people to wear masks to save a million lives for public health, but wants Ukrainians to fight to the last man.

Christ.

Our public infrastructure is literally collapsing and we have 9/11s everyday. They killed the pitiful infrastructure bill but every bill giving a billion dollars to Israel, the azov battalion, and every other pstcho in the world passes unanimously.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


Every dumbass lib taken in by this poo poo in a fake love for Ukraine, which they never thought about until 10 years ago, should feel ashamed.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Flayer posted:

Economically the West could shatter Russia and grind their army out of existence that way but it would take a few years to bankrupt them and that's disregarding wildcards like India, China, Brazil and Iran who well might continue providing markets for Russia.

I don't really disagree, but what do you think a nuclear power that is on the verge of being "shattered" whose army is being "grinded out of existence" is going to do? Just meekly roll over?

We really have to get over this post-Cold-War arrogance.

Cpt_Obvious posted:

The west couldn't even "grind down" Cuba into oblivion.

This too.

Flayer posted:

And that's only a theoretical discussion anyway at current technology levels because nukes exist.

Yeah. That needs to be the biggest bullet point, though.

PhilippAchtel has issued a correction as of 14:41 on Feb 23, 2022

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

R. Guyovich posted:

god, the ukraine crisis really is bringing all the nimrods back to this thread

Another ableist attack from the genocide denier, this one is a classic

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Kill All Cops posted:

Another ableist attack from the genocide denier, this one is a classic

lmao

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Kill All Cops posted:

Another ableist attack from the genocide denier, this one is a classic

nice projection

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Kill All Cops posted:

Another ableist attack from the genocide denier, this one is a classic

please explain the ableism

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1496477076571967495

thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth

Kill All Cops posted:

Another ableist attack from the genocide denier, this one is a classic

gently caress you're painful, go away. Also lol at still falling for the xinjiang "genocide" bullshit in 2022

thatfatkid has issued a correction as of 14:48 on Feb 23, 2022

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Kill All Cops posted:

Another ableist attack from the genocide denier, this one is a classic

lol

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

edit: nvm, answered on the previous page more than enough.

Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 14:56 on Feb 23, 2022

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

John Charity Spring posted:

please explain the ableism

Do you think a certain homophobic slur actually means a bundle of sticks?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

https://sputniknews.com/20181228/Reporter-Ukraine-Expert-Anti-Semitism-1071082228.html

On Friday, Starr tweeted out a picture from inside a restaurant he visited in Lviv, Ukraine. "I'm at a Jewish restaurant, in Lviv, called ‘At the Golden Rose,' where customers must negotiate the final bill — there are no prices on the menus. If you're ever in Lviv, visit!" Starr wrote in a since-deleted tweet.

At the Golden Rose is "attached to the ruins of the 16th century Golden Rose Synagogue," a report from April 2016 notes. "It's Jewish tradition to haggle and bargain afterwards," a non-Jewish waiter by the name of Vlodymir told reporter Cnaan Liphshiz. The waiter requested to be referred to as "Moishe," a common Jewish name.

The restaurant's menu refers to Jews as "zhids," the Russian equivalent of the English slur "kike." Staff, including Vlodymir, adorned fake peyots, the curly sidelocks traditionally worn by Orthodox Jews.

"So, apparently this restaurant I'm at is very controversial (something I didn't know), so I've deleted the pics. And thanks to the folks who literally gas lit me," Starr tweeted after deleting his previous tweet from inside the At the Golden Rose restaurant

:allears:

loving incredible genius there, holy loving poo poo

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?
How's this for ableist: your dumb!!!

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

PhilippAchtel posted:

Stamping your feet and refusing to give other people what they want only leads to war, a war you are only too happy for other people to fight and die in because you're too dumb to recognize that you'd probably die in this one too.

This is the way 30 years of hegemony have warped your mind.

What do you think diplomacy is, anyway?

This is my thought too. loving millennials with emails jobs calling for either conventional war or insurgency makes me sick.

I got injured during the last, least intense year of Canada’s war in Afghanistan. A friend of mine got hit by a rocket in line for the juice bar on KAF. I know a guy who broke his back, recovered, returned to duty and then had his legs blown off. It is so much worse than any of these Libs think, and to go through that because they’re sad the 90’s are over… I mean, more power to those YOSPOS guys who are apparently enlisting in the CAF. This isn’t an Epic Troop Rant calling out Lib Pussies, I’m genuinely sad and upset that these cloistered people my age want to go through something that genuinely makes me unable to enjoy life back home.

If they want to go soldiering in a war a thousand times more violent and intense than the Stan, far be it from me to stop them, but they should at least know that however many Pashtun farmers we blew up because they were digging wells at night or were taking down raisins in a grape hut, a conventional war in the Ukraine will throw so much ordnance around that it will make that look downright humanitarian.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

goon named kill all cops: y'all are being too ablist

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Kill All Cops posted:

Do you think a certain homophobic slur actually means a bundle of sticks?

this is quite a reach

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

https://sputniknews.com/20181228/Reporter-Ukraine-Expert-Anti-Semitism-1071082228.html

On Friday, Starr tweeted out a picture from inside a restaurant he visited in Lviv, Ukraine. "I'm at a Jewish restaurant, in Lviv, called ‘At the Golden Rose,' where customers must negotiate the final bill — there are no prices on the menus. If you're ever in Lviv, visit!" Starr wrote in a since-deleted tweet.

At the Golden Rose is "attached to the ruins of the 16th century Golden Rose Synagogue," a report from April 2016 notes. "It's Jewish tradition to haggle and bargain afterwards," a non-Jewish waiter by the name of Vlodymir told reporter Cnaan Liphshiz. The waiter requested to be referred to as "Moishe," a common Jewish name.

The restaurant's menu refers to Jews as "zhids," the Russian equivalent of the English slur "kike." Staff, including Vlodymir, adorned fake peyots, the curly sidelocks traditionally worn by Orthodox Jews.

"So, apparently this restaurant I'm at is very controversial (something I didn't know), so I've deleted the pics. And thanks to the folks who literally gas lit me," Starr tweeted after deleting his previous tweet from inside the At the Golden Rose restaurant

:allears:

:thanks:

I'm gonna show this to my whole family.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Frosted Flake posted:

I got injured during the last, least intense year of Canada’s war in Afghanistan. A friend of mine got hit by a rocket in line for the juice bar on KAF. I know a guy who broke his back, recovered, returned to duty and then had his legs blown off.

lol owned, lmao

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Kill All Cops posted:

Do you think a certain homophobic slur actually means a bundle of sticks?

lmfao

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Kill All Cops posted:

Do you think a certain homophobic slur actually means a bundle of sticks?

no but I don't think anyone is being systemically oppressed for not being a great hunter or for being an embarrassing nerd, depending on the meaning you pick

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Smythe posted:

how do ppl know so much weird esoteric stuff about these places n ppl ... ??

it's the internet far shore knowledge syndrome. certain posters acquire a prismatic perfect awareness of places and people they never been anywhere near (more than a 500km radius) once the subject shows up on twitter. suddenly a guy in mccall, idaho has an incomparable understanding of geography, history, sociology, anthropology, linguistics and political economy to talk about it. they are now capable of doing an entire dirge on the donets coal basin even though they had no idea of even its existence two weeks ago

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Kill All Cops posted:

Another ableist attack from the genocide denier, this one is a classic

you come back into this thread every few months to say one of 5 pre-programmed phrases like a buzz lightyear doll

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I reckon it's a semantic issue. Russia can claim that they're only entering the breakaway regions and going no further, so they're not really invading Ukraine. It's ultimately just splitting hairs and doesn't actually matter. A real invasion would mean direct confrontation with the Ukrainian military.

The situation in Crimea was very different from D&L because Crimea is impossible to attack from the north, and the population there was overwhelmingly pro Russian - even more so than in the Donbas. The Russian military didn't even have to use deadly force, they took over Ukrainian bases with fist fights. They saw an opportunity to take a region that was historically Russian and whose population wanted to be part of Russia again - so they took it. In D&L the separatists had to take up arms themselves and were in immediate conflict with Ukrainian security forces. They were so desperate for weapons and vehicles that they recommissioned a museum piece T-34. The politics there are thrown off because people in the Donbas aren't really interested in being part of Russia. What they want is reintegration into Ukraine in a way that guarantees the protection of their Russian language and culture. The Russian military supported the separatists because it was an opportunity for them to keep Ukraine indefinitely unstable and keep them out of NATO.

Ukraine does have a lot of economic importance to Russia, but thanks to the post-Maidan government trade between the two has slowed down to a trickle. At this point Russia's strategic interests are purely military. If NATO can station forces and strategic weapons in Ukraine then that's a direct threat to the core of Russian territory, far in excess even than the usual threat presented by ICBMs, nuclear subs, and other such things. The Bush administration even had a plan to set up anti-missile defense systems in eastern europe for the purposes of shooting down Russian strategic weapons in case a war broke out. It wasn't feasible at the time, and had to be abandoned - but it did signal that we're dumb enough to try it if it does become feasible. So the Russians don't have to just be concerned about direct threats to their territory, but also a potential threat to their ability to retaliate.

Thanks for the good and thoughtful posting

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

indigi posted:

lol owned, lmao

The whole thing was just taking L’s.

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

AnimeIsTrash posted:

goon named kill all cops: y'all are being too ablist

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The politics there are thrown off because people in the Donbas aren't really interested in being part of Russia. What they want is reintegration into Ukraine in a way that guarantees the protection of their Russian language and culture.

here’s something I don’t quite understand: why are they so eager (or even simply willing) for reintegration with a state that has been openly hostile to them? I understand not wanting to be part of Russia (though I wonder how feasible the republics would be if they’re fully independent) but wanting to rejoin Ukraine with some level of autonomy that could be stripped away by the next further-right government that comes into power seems like a bad idea

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011



the people's daily often do cat news, which I must say, is a powerful booster and argument for communism

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

John Charity Spring posted:

no but I don't think anyone is being systemically oppressed for not being a great hunter or for being an embarrassing nerd, depending on the meaning you pick

And the person doing that systemic oppression is being gladly welcomed into the LPR / DPR

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Kill All Cops posted:

Do you think a certain homophobic slur actually means a bundle of sticks?

What kind of a bit is this

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

dead gay comedy forums posted:

the people's daily often do cat news, which I must say, is a powerful booster and argument for communism

smh no wonder people don’t believe China’s commitment to socialism with their promotion of the purring capitalist

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Kill All Cops posted:

And the person doing that systemic oppression is being gladly welcomed into the LPR / DPR

they said nobody is doing that systemic oppression so your post makes no sense

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