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Blockhouse posted:Heisenberg is the weirdest performance I've seen in a video game and god bless him for it The man just wants to build things, like a lot of things. Lady D inherits a castle and makes a couple fly daughters while Big H created an entire underground clockwork empire, we know who is putting in the most effort in this cult.
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And yet after all that, Miranda didn't give him the XBox that had Uno on it.
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Manager Hoyden posted:Silent Hill 2 was a good game but I wish it was never made Why?
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its a lame cop out just like a twist that it was all a dream it can be done well but most of the time it wont be
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I finally got around to Faith Chapter 2 and it's super good! Leaves me even more impatient for 3. I like how effectively it escalates everything from Chapter 1 without seeming like a retread.
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sigher posted:Why? Because it's tedious and uninteresting
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0 rows returned posted:its a lame cop out just like a twist that it was all a dream Silent Hill 2 did it well.
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Re8 had the same problem Re7 did for me. They have real good villains set up with a bit of a dynamic but then you just go around and kill them one by one without them having any further interactions. Such wasted potential. Also Ethan is boring as hell and I cannot care about his Mia problems because picking Zoe was the correct choice but no, she's just disappeared now
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Feb 22, 2022 23:42
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Zoe is my Calcified Waifu.
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Feb 22, 2022 23:45
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Play Omori
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0 rows returned posted:its a lame cop out just like a twist that it was all a dream People should create the art they want and attempt to do something fresh with the idea, even if it does end up as predictable and disappointing. Most art is anyway. The Occurrence and Owl Creek bridge scenario is usually massively disappointing but eh, let people have a go. Manager Hoyden posted:Because it's tedious and uninteresting To you or everyone?
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Everyone Can you think of anyone who starts up a game saying "oh boy I hope this is about depression" or "I'm rarin' to play a game with an abuse monster in it"
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Fingerless Gloves posted:Also Ethan is boring as hell and I cannot care about his Mia problems because picking Zoe was the correct choice but no, she's just disappeared now I'm so conflicted, because saving Zoe at the expense of Mia was obviously the correct choice but canonically saving Mia resulted in End of Zoe, the greatest dlc ever made
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Feb 23, 2022 02:19
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Zoe is the best because the dlc about her is loving awesome, if you havent played it you need to correct that mistake.
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Captain Hygiene posted:I'm so conflicted, because saving Zoe at the expense of Mia was obviously the correct choice but canonically saving Mia resulted in End of Zoe, the greatest dlc ever made DreadUnknown posted:Zoe is the best because the dlc about her is loving awesome, if you havent played it you need to correct that mistake. YOU REMEMBAH WHEN WE WAS KIDS, AN I BROKE YA NOSE? Joe was too good.
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"The monster was you and this was all a metaphor for your dad beating you" is incredibly strongly worn out, mostly (for me) because it invalidates most of the experience so far. Oh, so I didn't have [cool space adventures / meet all these cool characters / Have A Silent Hill Homecoming], I'm just [guilty/depressed/in denial] over [mom/dad/kid], this was all some sort of [dying dream / fantasy / cash grab]? Great! gently caress me, I guess. It worked in Silent Hill 2 and An Occurrence At Owl Creek because in Silent Hill, 2 it was all really happening, it's just this is a hosed up town that regurgitates your trauma at you and tries to make you at least accept it, and in Owl Creek, it was written in 1890. When it works, it recontextualizes the story in a really cool way. When it doesn't, it's a writer offering you a poo poo and saying it's steak. Also, it's a way to tie up loose ends of mystery without actually tying them up. Youre Are Crazy is the solution. yes, i am mad about a certain ps5 exclusive. Bogart fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Feb 23, 2022 |
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It's one thing to write a metaphor, but to have the Big Reveal be an explanation of the metaphor is cack-handed and condescending. Also, the story is already a work of fiction. It doesn't need to be fictional within itself unless that has a direct impact on its meaning.
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Out of curiosity, how many folks here noticed that the mall level and its puzzles in SH3 (other than the books) were a metaphor for the rest of the game and previous entries?
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Replaying Layers of Fear. Amazing that a team can put so much effort into a game that ultimately has no ideas or any personality at all.
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Blockhouse posted:Heisenberg is the weirdest performance I've seen in a video game and god bless him for it The voice/mocap actor is channelling some serious Nic Cage energy, and as such he's one of the best things in the game. Honestly, all the lords turn in solid performances (except Beneviento, and that's largely because we barely get to deal with her directly). Lady D going from bemused to irritated to absolutely loving FURIOUS is good fun as well.
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Bogart posted:"The monster was you and this was all a metaphor for your dad beating you" is incredibly strongly worn out, mostly (for me) because it invalidates most of the experience so far. Oh, so I didn't have [cool space adventures / meet all these cool characters / Have A Silent Hill Homecoming], I'm just [guilty/depressed/in denial] over [mom/dad/kid], this was all some sort of [dying dream / fantasy / cash grab]? Great! gently caress me, I guess. What's this now?
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Len posted:What's this now? they’re talking about fillerfillerfiller Returnal fillerfillerfiller and yes I am powerfully irate at that game’s story as well, not in the least because the twist was completely unnecessary to how the game had been presented up to that point
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Len posted:What's this now? Ratchet & Clank got VERY weird
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"Keith said there was leftover pizza in the fridge. Only you open the fridge to find no pizza, and realise Keith left years ago and this isn't even your apartment."
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Oxxidation posted:they’re talking about fillerfillerfiller Returnal fillerfillerfiller Same. I was so ridiculously let down by this, everything up until that point was super interesting and I was left wondering what exactly the final plot drop would be and then..It's that.
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dogstile posted:This is actually why I don't think I bothered with RE8. This'll always make me laugh https://twitter.com/iostiegacy/status/1349796340251942912?lang=en
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Manager Hoyden posted:Everyone I find it really tedious too, but I dunno if Silent Hill 2 not existing would have stopped hacks from being hacks. They'd just copy paste something else.
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Yeah mental illness and abuse monsters are played out a bit but also there isn't an overwhelming list of things that you can make horror games with a solid theme out of. It's that or going into the "capitalism bad" party. It's a side effect of people not wanting to just make monsters that are "this monster wants to chop your head off because he's CrAzY omg". There isn't anything innately wrong with just having monsters that are a cardboard cut out with a rotating sawblade attached but that also is a bit too early 90s The games that get around that are usually short mood pieces. Like that Convenience Store game that is just you doing convenience store worker stuff while generally spooky stuff happens around you. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Feb 23, 2022 |
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I think we should go back to games just being about messed up cults rituals loving things up.
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Tired Moritz posted:I think we should go back to games just being about messed up cults rituals loving things up. I agree wholeheartedly, though I guess I'm in the extreme minority as someone who thought the weird gnostic cult trying to bring about hell on earth was the most interesting part of Silent Hill games, even if those characters weren't always written very well. Honestly I'm kind of over horror games that try very hard to have a point or a deep metaphor or say something profound about the human condition because so few actually manage it without being totally hamfisted. The horror I've enjoyed the most lately is stuff like yeah, Convenience Store or the other Chilla's Art games that are more weird and atmospheric, or Puppet Combo games where they lean hard into horror tropes but execute them with some style and humor. Sometimes horror just needs to be fun and scary. I would have enjoyed Visage about 1000% more if it was just a weird haunted house game and wasn't trying to tell me a very tired and overused story at the same time (though the controls didn't help either).
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How about the monster/ghost is written as a monster/ghost It doesn't have to be a metaphor for anything It can just be a hosed up thing from interesting circumstances
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The only moden horror about mental illness I'd give props to is Devotion. Go play Devotion.
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What about modern horror where the concepts are genuinely upsetting you know instead of a metaphor about depression it spooks you and then gives you depression, eh I liked Soma is what I'm saying
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Manager Hoyden posted:How about the monster/ghost is written as a monster/ghost everything is a metaphor for something, horror by definition is based on socio-cultural neuroses and like most genres (probably even more so) every good idea drags a thousand artless imitators in its wake
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Oxxidation posted:and like most genres (probably even more so) every good idea drags a thousand Bloober Teams in its wake
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Oxxidation posted:everything is a metaphor for something absolutely not.
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Do people actually think that? That anyone writing a horror scene has to be describing we live in a society?
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Manager Hoyden posted:Do people actually think that? it doesn’t have to be done consciously. horror is scary because it taps into pre-existing fears, many of which are based in societal circumstances. that’s how writing works. it’s how art works. ideas don’t just emerge ex nihilo
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Well I think that all horror is based on some kind of animal It doesn't have to be conscious The lady in PT was actually a metaphor for a small horse
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